Members Antoyne Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 Thank you. Throughout the episode my boyfriend and I kept talking about how he completely slipped into "angry black man" mode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 I thought that Chad Coleman did an outstanding job portraying Tyreese's grief, but I agree his relationship with Karen should been developed more. Regarding the "angry black man" label for Tyreese, I think it is just another lazy racial stereotype that some people throw around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't even understand why Carol killed David and Karen. They were locked in those cells so the group wasn't in danger. Is she so stupid that she thought she could stop the virus from spreading by kililng them? So is her plan to kill everyone who is infected and not give the healthier people a chance to survive? It is a very Shane thing to do. I now hope that her end is nder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 I agree with Ann. Angry black man is a cop out for Tyrese because he's been nothing but a big Teddy Bear. At first I thought Ty was overreacting to Karen's death, but I don't think so anymore. Ty does not like the fighting or killing even if they are Zombies. He will step up if need be but there's always a bit of reluctance. He will stay behind and protect the women and children, but make no mistake, he will fight. He is not a leader and is super sensitive. Outside of Sasha, this is the first chance Ty has had to feel something for another human being and all hope is not lost. Out of all of them, I think the apocalypse has hit Ty the hardest. His despair is not like the others, and we've always been given hints that Sasha was always the strongest of the two. Not that he would not break someone in two if they harmed her, but she looks like the one to always step to the front of the line when the time came fight. Ty's anger is more than Karen. He's afraid of losing hope again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I think when a black man has a legitimate reason to be angry, he should get to play that whatever stereotypes may exist. I mean, it's not like TY is pissed for the hell of it. Carol killed his GF. Personally, I get where Carol is coming from. These people are living in the end times. I can see where she decided to make the call to try to stop the contagion, even if she didn't have the right. Hell, I can even see how she thought she did have the right. I think she and Hershel are toast this season though. Carol has stepped into Shane land, even if her intentions are much more honorable. I do think she thought she could stop the contagion with those two. It was obviously far too late. I don't think she's going to try to do it again, she probably thought those two were going to die anyway and she might be able to stop the spread. A desperate act doomed to fail and I do think she will die or be shunned for it. It's too bad, she was just getting really interesting. Edited October 28, 2013 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 I never thought when I first started watching this show, that I would actually grow to find Carol interesting. I'm actually excited to see where her story is headed though we all know she's clearly not long for this world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darn Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 Tyrese would fall into the Angry Black Man stereotype if that was all they'd shown of him. But it's not. Before this episode he'd barely raised his voice. You can be angry and black without falling into that stereotype. I can't get over how bad Andrew Lincoln is when he has to act angry or sad, or how his accent slips when he has to raise his voice. I was so happy that they didn't kill Dr. S and Sasha this episode, I don't think I could handle two minor minority characters dying in the space of an hour. And I KNOW I won't be able to handle it if Glenn dies. His hair is too pretty. I'm so for Carol killing those who endanger her group. When the Governor comes back I want her to just pop and shoot in the mofo in the head. So what, who cares? I'm all for Michonne and Daryl. I'm for Michonne and anyone. She's such a sharp contrast to most characters on television that her interactions with anyone feel fresh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 They have done wonders this season with Michonne and her relationships with the rest of the gang. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) When she went in and got that picture of Laurie for Carl that changed everything for her character. I think that's when she opened her heart to becoming part of the group and Carl did the same for her. Edited October 28, 2013 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I just don't know what episode you got all that from, honestly. I had no idea his sister was tougher than he is, or that he was super sensitive. Last year he didn't want to help anyone kill anybody but there was no motivation given other than "we should mind our own business"--which is a legitimate enough reason to sit out a battle between humans. He only came alive for me in the scene where he was being surrounded by walkers and had to do a Hulk Hogan and hulk himself up to get out there and fight and that he managed to fight off 100 walkers and make it back to the other. The fight with Rick was just silly. Edited October 28, 2013 by quartermainefan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 A few episodes ago they showed us that he didn't like to kill the Walkers at the gate. I agree that they haven't shown us enough of Ty, but I did feel for him and Sasha when they were turned away from the prison last season. Rick was out of his mind, but it just felt so wrong for him to turn decent people out, when it was practically a death sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 They toss out little teasers, and for me, that really tells a lot. Ty is not handling this well, but his sister is much tougher at this sort of thing. Tyreese fights when he has to, and only then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted October 28, 2013 Members Share Posted October 28, 2013 The key demo dipped a bit to 6.8, the show continues to get outstanding ratings. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/28/the-walking-dead-garners-a-6-8-adults-18-49-rating-12-9-million-total-viewers/211851/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DRW50 Posted October 29, 2013 Members Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-season-4-spoilers-651084 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-season-4-spoilers-650661 Spoilers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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