I've never been comfortable with the speed and intensity of Marissa's insta-mommyhood of A.J. I realize that's her sister's child, but it's not like she was raised with Babe and saw her sister through her pregnancy et cetera. There is no doubt that she loves the boy, but does she love J.R. more? If all involved were really honest with themselves, they'd admit that emotion at times superseded rational thinking during the feverish months of J.R.'s illness. And Marissa did in fact go to J.R. with this, she wanted to make sure that the role he wanted her to play in his and A.J.'s life came from a genuine place and not the almost manic rainbows and sunshine place he was in as he'd practically accepted death. It's a tough call because J.R. wasn't exactly lying, that was the place he was truly in. Marissa needs to get the tears and frustration out, suck it up, and realize that things didn't work out as she'd hoped. Painful, but you'll live. Move on Martha move on. She needs to be brutally honest with herself and ask if life is bearable and best for A.J. (not her) by being his aunt and not his mother. Who is taking him away from J.R. really about? Marissa and Krystal can go through the courts to ensure that they see their grandson/nephew as much as possible, but it is not necessary for the boy to live under Marissa's roof. Frankly, I think she and J.R. both fracked up by making that boy think Marissa was a second Mommie. The only person he should have ever had a relationship like that with was one of his grandmothers or an aunt with a PLATONIC relationship with J.R. You don't do that when you've hardly been with a woman for a year.

I couldn't agree more! This is not about AJ's best interests -- this is about Marissa's ego being wounded by JR seemingly choosing Annie over her. It is in the best interests of the child to have both parents in his life -- and the parents he knows now are JR and Marissa. JR offered that, but Marissa was too jealous over Annie to accept it. And now it's just a plot device -- a custody battle aimed to insert yet another obstacle in JR and Annie's path to coupledom.

I think they realized awfully quick that when you do have a Jamie Luner type in the role, you're wasting her on the "Martin Approved" version of Liza Colby circa 1998-2002. Today's DA Liza is right in line with 1995's WRCW Liza. I can see this Liza taking no prisoners, exploiting traumas of the citizens of Pine Valley for TV ratings, with a "Sorry, but that's life" kind of attitude. As for the 2009 horny girl who just wanted Zach's schlong and had baby fever... I place that version of Liza with that Army Girl in the "They were never on this show" category.

100% agree. Very nice analysis. And LMAO about Tay- wait, who?

And I take back what I said. I love Annie and Asher, too, and sometimes some of the others.

Edited October 16, 201015 yr by alexisfan07

Every time I tune in to this ish Marissa is going on and on like AJ is her real-ass son. He calls her "Mommy," etc. What the [!@#$%^&*] is that about? Even Joey and Kevin on OLTL remember Joe Riley from time to time. I ain't asking for Babe to come back, Lord no, but the bottom line is bitch, you been here like a year, you are not his mother. Stop pretending you are his mother. Even in the old days with Jesse McCartney, they kept a clear distinction between JR's relationship with Tad and the fact that Adam was his father, for better or worse. And BTW, back then Tad didn't treat the kid like [!@#$%^&*]. But Marissa is a lunatic, that's all I'm saying. It's not her kid, it's her dead sister's who she never even met, and she is way too invested in this "I'm AJ's mom" narrative. She needs to go psycho, period.

And Dan Cosgrove. [!@#$%^&*] please. Dan Cosgrove was okay on GL, but a snooze and two bits on everything else, everywhere. His 90210 stint as "Some Poor Bastard For Kelly To [!@#$%^&*] Until Luke Perry Comes Back" ended with him sticking his dick in a woman while fucked up on E at some desert rave, it was a joke. He was boring on ATWT, and he relies on this smarm that worked for Bill Lewis but it's already overripe. Are we supposed to buy Dan Cosgrove as "Scott Chandler, jail-hardened alpha male to compete with JR?" Who gives a [!@#$%^&*]?

Also, I have come to grudgingly accept Bizarre Recast Jamie Luner, but come on, DA? Lawyer was enough of a stretch, but DA? What is her primary field of case study or whatever? Cock inspection? I agree with others she should be back at that TV station, just [!@#$%^&*] with people all day. Bitch is what Luner is good at. Nuttin' else.

Oh, and this latest ColbyFAIL - she is a man. A MAN. You know what story this show should be doing? Asher trying to get Damon into bed and get some of, I don't know, Tad's money or something. Doesn't Tad have money somewhere? Did he eat it all? Have Asher try to seduce Damon by fuckin' with his meds again. Cause that's how the dynamic between those two dudes plays out onscreen.

Edited October 16, 201015 yr by Vee

Vee, that post made my drink and smoke ten times more enjoyable.

Can someone smack Tad, please? Why does JR have to prove anything to Marissa regarding AJ?

This is why I detest the Tad and JR relationship, always dissing Adam's method of doing anything, especially raising kids and heading a family. ADAM CALLED IT FROM DAY ONE! He did not think it was a good idea AT ALL for JR to let Whorissa adopt AJ. Not. At. All. What did JR do? Start puffing and pissing about Adam trying to control him and his son and blah, blah, blah... Well, see where that got you, Junior? Smack dab in yet another custody battle for that boy. I understand that JR thought he was going to die and yadda, yadda, yadda... but, if anything, if he wanted AJ away from Adam's influence after his death, he should've willed AJ over to Krystal. That way, AJ would still be with Marissa (if it was sooo important to have Marissa in his life ), and also be living with his grandmother and aunt Kathy. So on the off chance JR did survive and his marriage to the Bore didn't, there would be NONE of this mess.

With that said...

I'm tired of everyone seemingly forgetting the fact that Marissa wouldn't be involved in AJ's life at all if it wasn't for JR. Marissa's being extremely selfish, using AJ as revenge.

I know, Tad of all people should understand where JR is coming from after all the custody stuff with Adam & Dixie years ago. He used to say he considered JR as his son, but why would he think JR should get back with Marissa when the bitch keeps acting like she's entitled to AJ?!?

I think they realized awfully quick that when you do have a Jamie Luner type in the role, you're wasting her on the "Martin Approved" version of Liza Colby circa 1998-2002. Today's DA Liza is right in line with 1995's WRCW Liza. I can see this Liza taking no prisoners, exploiting traumas of the citizens of Pine Valley for TV ratings, with a "Sorry, but that's life" kind of attitude. As for the 2009 horny girl who just wanted Zach's schlong and had baby fever... I place that version of Liza with that Army Girl in the "They were never on this show" category.

Yup, the real Liza is back and taking no prisoners (pun intended, sorry!).

Com'on...we know JR isn't going to let that ho go.

Did pigs fly today? did JR actually flip off a Tad lecture? Kendall is so irritating right now. The one saving point she had for me was when she told Ryan, even being Greenlee's friend and being so stupid *I added that* she's not stupid enough to take a murder rap for her.

Jake still looks like crap. Adam Mayfield is still a tough actor to feel any emotions with. I did like when he and Marissa agreed that they should never have been in that house. BA/AM have the best chemistry w/ ea. other.

Speaking of Marissa, I'm telling you right now, she killed David. Write it down right now. There's a murder trial for your deceased father that you claim to sorta love, you're not there? you go to JR's house to talk sh!t? you go to visit Scott? you don't see if justice is being served for your dead dad? Infact I'll go farther, I think she's using AJ to stay relevant to the show JR. She keeps bringing up Annie as if JR commited a sin, bitch move on, you yourself said you and JR couldn't continue. Also she's talking funny

She claims he doesn't have AJ as the top priority but she said when JR loves someone she knows him and she's afraid that he will control AJ too much...um ok

Yeah, Kendall's been annoying for a while now. I can't wait for her to get a storyline of her own so she'll shut up about Rylee!

I thought Adam Mayfield and Brittany Allen had chemistry, too. I'm optimistic that the new Scott & Marissa will be a couple out for revenge on JR and Annie! Although I wouldn't mind if Marissa did kill David, I think the writers are going to make Madison the killer so they can stick Ryan back with Greenlee. My best guess for where this is heading is that Madison announces she's pregnant after she's arrested and Frankie flashes back to sleeping with her the night David was killed, so Jesse agrees to keep her out of jail until the baby is born and it turns out to be Ryan's, leading to Madison leaving the show.

BTW how sucky was AMC's cliffhanger..really Rylee kissing? I liked the flashbacks but WTF with that cliffhanger, it would make sense if they had shown Liza taking a pic of it and ready to use it against them, but no I have to see a what looks to be GMAFB kiss between them.

Madison should have walked in on the kiss..... that would have been good. But, no. God, Ryass is such an idiot. I bet on Monday he'll rip off Greenlee's red dress and fu¢k her right there.

I mean srsly three missed scenerios there.

1. That Bitch Liza taking a pic

2. Damon taking a pic of it for Liza's case

3. Madison sees this hiding in some corner

I know I'm beating it to death but com'on.

Yeah, it was one of the worst cliffhangers ever! Sadly, none of these better scenarios occurred to anyone in the writer's room?

Also, I have come to grudgingly accept Bizarre Recast Jamie Luner, but come on, DA? Lawyer was enough of a stretch, but DA? What is her primary field of case study or whatever? Cock inspection? I agree with others she should be back at that TV station, just [!@#$%^&*] with people all day. Bitch is what Luner is good at. Nuttin' else.

Oh, and this latest ColbyFAIL - she is a man. A MAN. You know what story this show should be doing? Asher trying to get Damon into bed and get some of, I don't know, Tad's money or something. Doesn't Tad have money somewhere? Did he eat it all? Have Asher try to seduce Damon by fuckin' with his meds again. Cause that's how the dynamic between those two dudes plays out onscreen.

LMAO +1.

I know, Tad of all people should understand where JR is coming from after all the custody stuff with Adam & Dixie years ago. He used to say he considered JR as his son, but why would he think JR should get back with Marissa when the bitch keeps acting like she's entitled to AJ?!?

And, after thinking about it, what irritates me the most about Tad's little "prove yourself to Marissa" speech, as well as his and Krystal's respective aghast reactions to JR's battle mode for AJ, is that JR can't win. When JR's upset, angry or on the verge of falling off the wagon, "Think of AJ! Fight for AJ! Stay strong for AJ! Do this for AJ!" because they know that AJ's the one thing in his life that will give him the courage that he needs to overcome whatever's ailing him. And then, knowing full well how much AJ means to JR and the importance of AJ's role in JR's sobriety, they immediately chastise him and act stunned when JR exhibits his very legitimate determination to fight for his son. Nobody in this situation is acknowledging the fact that JR fought cancer to stay alive for AJ. Nobody recognizes the fact that he fights to stay sober every minute of every day for AJ. No! Of course not. They wanna whine about how he has no soul, and then in the same breath, take away the only person in his life that reaches his soul. I just wish that JR had told Tad he didn't need to prove anything to Marissa. Even if he did, maintaining his sobriety and doing a little thing like coming back from terminal cancer is enough proof.

Yeah, Kendall's been annoying for a while now. I can't wait for her to get a storyline of her own so she'll shut up about Rylee!

Can someone tell me what the HELL that was in the courthouse, when she's all whining about what obsessing over Rylee is costing her marriage -- and Ryan says "OMG! I don't want this ruining your life! Go to the boys! Go to your husband!" and all she does is sigh and go back into courtroom? That, to me, was it. Kendall = Pathetic. To use her husband and kids as a mere cover story for what she's really keeping from Ryan, and then to have a look of "ugh! Whatever. That lie didn't work" and just saunter back into the courtroom.

Yeah, it was one of the worst cliffhangers ever! Sadly, none of these better scenarios occurred to anyone in the writer's room?

I'm sure the scenarios did, but the mandate is that this is THE REUNION WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

Why does Kendall keep complaining about being put in the middle of Ryan and Greenlee? Love you, but no one else is forcing you there but you. You could be doing better things right now like raising your boys, taking care of your company, and working out things with Zach. Ryan told her straight out in this ep that she could go do those things and he wouldn't ask her for anything else, and she walked straight back into the courtroom! That frustrated me so much because that was her chance! She could have walked out of their and totally blocked them out of her life for awhile. Ugh!

Haha, is the 'ho' thing a recurring Friday theme?

It should become a Friday thing

Why Is She Still Here Ho

Broke Ho

Trial Ho

We Love This Ho

LOLOLOL! Love these ones!

Why does Kendall keep complaining about being put in the middle of Ryan and Greenlee? Love you, but no one else is forcing you there but you. You could be doing better things right now like raising your boys, taking care of your company, and working out things with Zach. Ryan told her straight out in this ep that she could go do those things and he wouldn't ask her for anything else, and she walked straight back into the courtroom! That frustrated me so much because that was her chance! She could have walked out of their and totally blocked them out of her life for awhile. Ugh!

And what sucks is that there was nothing in the writing, direction or the acting that explained WHY she went back into the courtroom.

And what sucks is that there was nothing in the writing, direction or the acting that explained WHY she went back into the courtroom.

her girlfriend was in there. She cant help but be 12 inches away from her ass

her girlfriend was in there. She cant help but be 12 inches away from her ass

Ugh, I keep forgetting Kendall and Greenlee are in love this week. It was last week Kendall hated her. I wish someone would post their frienemies schedule. Theirs is particularly confusing.

I wish someone would post their frienemies schedule. Theirs is particularly confusing.

I think they schedule every second Tuesday of the month for their fu¢k session.

.........and I bet you ANYTHING that Kendall wears the strap-on.

Edited October 18, 201015 yr by Pine Charles

Ever since Erica return Binks has been MIA, is it just me or does it feel like the show is in talks with eden?

Ever since Erica return Binks has been MIA, is it just me or does it feel like the show is in talks with eden?

You make it sound as if Erica's been back for five weeks instead of five episodes.