Members Mitch Posted May 29, 2013 Members Share Posted May 29, 2013 Never got the Connor love..I thought the actress looked like a witch at the time. Mark was hot and he could have worked if given the right material. He was not a great actor by any means but he had that kind of masculine, hot but doesnt act like a preening Chippendales Dancer thing that worked on ATWT. I thought he was pretty good with Lily but they were still following the "uptight business person with the hot, honest sexy person," thing Marland did so often. Cal and Connor...kind of boring..never got Cal's purpose either and hated his fake accent. Didnt he date Lila too (my God can you imagine the boredom of those scenes???) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 29, 2013 Members Share Posted May 29, 2013 He and Lyla were engaged, but split up because he wanted to drill on Native American land and she disagreed with him. Mark and Lily didn't do anything for me, but I did wonder at the time why the story changed. I don't think it could have been because of Lily/Mike, as he was still with Rosanna and Carly at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted May 29, 2013 Members Share Posted May 29, 2013 Cal gave Lily a Grandpa. Isn't that purpose enough in life? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted May 29, 2013 Members Share Posted May 29, 2013 I think the show realized Mark and Lily didn't have chemistry.. and I think this was before Damian had announced he was leaving the show so I think Damian/Lily became seen as end game. I guess Mark had some chemistry with Connor.. but then the show writers changed and they were rushed together.. I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mitch Posted May 29, 2013 Members Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) LOL..I forgot he was Lily's Grandpa. Marland's convoluted family trees made me give up on the show..it got so weird with Lily's parents, adopto parents, step parents, bio grandparents, and Lucindas step siblings, real sibilings,etc. It was even weirder that no one mention out freaked up it all was. I swear that Marland's ghost helps write "Once Upon a Time," with Henry filling the Lily role (always being kidnapped and in danger, always bitching at someone self-righteously, everyone worried about his emotional state and EVERYONE on the show related to him.) Edited May 29, 2013 by Mitch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 30, 2013 Members Share Posted May 30, 2013 Two February 1985 episodes I don't think I've seen on Youtube before (might be wrong). One not far after this is on 0814btm's channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuSVarCpTEs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO3aD_lHDGg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edgeofnik Posted June 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted June 1, 2013 Connor & Cal always creeped me out. IDK - it was probably the whole age difference. It seemed like they were "domesticating" this vibrant, intelligent business woman as an old man's trophy wife. (Granted Cal always treated Connor with respect, but still.) So when Connor and Mark connected, it was great. I liked an episode where Connor and Cal where fighting about going to a Snyder party and she said something like she was tired of hearing the same family stories again because it made her feel old. That summed it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~bl~ Posted June 1, 2013 Members Share Posted June 1, 2013 I didn't care for Connor and Cal, but I hated Mark and Connor. It drove me nuts that this powerful business woman became obsessed with doing it in a treehouse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edgeofnik Posted June 2, 2013 Author Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) ITA - some of that was so bad. What was it with Cal ("Red Boots") and Mark ("Treehouse") So darned cheesy! I did like Connor with the original actor (James Wleck) who played Linc. The recast really changed the tone of the character and obviously not for the better. Edited June 2, 2013 by edgeofnik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9-FTrt1HT4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohjx7Le-Bdw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 Was going to say great to see the clips but saw Susan Batten's name ...ugh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 Y'know, as glad as I am that the Jack/Molly story went nowhere...there's no denying that visually, they looked really good together. And there's no denying Martha's hair looked a hell of a lot better shorter than the dark, frumpy mess Goutman foisted upon her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 They did, didn't they? I wonder why it went nowhere. At the very least, you could have had a very interesting triangle with Jack, Carly, and Molly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 I enjoyed that 1997 episode.... I don't know what the overall shape of the show at that time, but the episode was good. Margo was great in her breakdown, loved Lisa, all the Marlanda flashbacks, Molly/Jack, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think a lot of that had to do with HWs not knowing WTF to do with Molly. She ran the gamut from "wrongly imprisioned" to "batshit crazy". Molly kind of got neutered to hook her up with Jake a couple of years later. Carly and Molly rarely converged in the same story. They kind of interacted with separate spheres of characters. I'm not really sorry, since the incestuousness of ATWT could be smothering at times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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