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I thought Joan Collins was decent for most of the show's run - eventually just about all the cast seemed to give up, and the writing for Alexis in the last seasons was not very good (the worst was that stuff with the butler's son, or whatever). The performances she and John Forsythe gave when Blake was an amnesiac were some of the last touching moments the show had.

Charlene did a good job with the requirements of the role. They just didn't know what to do with Lucy.

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I don't think I was suggesting the original cast was not talented but as we all know talent only carries you so far. Dallas was successful because It was the right mixture of people and the right time and place for it to work. I will say I much preferred the earlier years when JR was not the larger than life character he became and took over the show with. He lost some of his root ability for me when it became all about him. And of course he's the highlight of the current show along with Duffy. Everyone else on the show is so blah and ordinary for the most part.

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I know she mentioned the BBQ at Southfork and how cold it was and I dont think she was even shown. Her scenes were cut out. I'd wish she would be just as pissed about how awful Metcalf is as Christopher.

Who knows if she will sign up for Season 2.

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If she was pissed about lousy acting on this show she'd never show up on the set at all.

I think they just used the original actors as bait to try to get people to watch this. Any show that casts longtime coma patients like Brenda Strong and Jordana Brewster has no interest in compelling women.

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Same!

You know, I had to go back and re-read that sentence? For a minute there, I thought you were saying Lucy and Ray were being presented as if they were "wasted." Don't ask me why, lol.

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Same goes for Jim Davis, Patrick Duffy, Victoria Principal and Charlene Tilton. In fact, aside from Barbara Bel Geddes and Larry Hagman (and even Hagman is debatable), none of DALLAS' most prominent actors were actually good. Nevertheless, each of them had some almost undefinable quality that made you sit up and take notice. But these new actors? They might as well be on "CSI: NY" or "Criminal Minds." That's how interchangeable and disposable they are.

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Actually, Barbara Bel Geddes won an Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama Series in 1980, a rarity among actors working in primetime soaps.

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Oops. Didn't know you had answered Jane Austen's question already. My bad. :)

And if "Hill Street Blues," "L.A. Law," "St. Elsewhere," and "Thirtysomething" weren't all soap operas...!

To this day, the serial rapist storyline practically haunts me in its sheer, utter soapiness.

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Granted, I never watched "Man from Atlantis." From what I have heard about it, though, it sounds to me as if Duffy never had to stretch his (acting) muscles on that one.

God help me for saying this, but even Colin Egglesfield would have made a better Christopher than Jesse Metcalfe. He has more presence on-screen and, unlike Metcalfe, he's actually grown as an actor.

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