When Jack showed Patty her diary and said that it makes about as much sense as a monkey on a typewriter, I like to think that was an adlibbed dig at Maria Bell

I thought he said a monkey on a typewriter would make more sense than what Patty wrote.

I thought he said a monkey on a typewriter would make more sense than what Patty wrote.

You could be right, which in any case would tranlate to "a monkey on a typewriter would make more sense than what Maria writes."

Edited May 5, 201015 yr by Cheap21

Hell, just have Cassie wake up from a dream and that the last 5 years never happened...

Hell yeah! I might even be tempted to watch again if that happened.

Memo to Y&R's writers: Next time you steal from pay homage to a classic film like you did yesterday w/ "The Lady from Shanghai," don't make it so effing obvious. Between the shots of Phyllis on crutches and the cliffhanger w/ Lauren and the gun, Orson Welles' estate might have enough on you for a copyright infringement lawsuit.

Edited May 5, 201015 yr by Khan

On PC, Kevin and Rachel (played by Kimberlin Brown, ex Sheila) had a showdown in a mirror house as well

Didn't Felicia Gallant and Jason Frame have some kind of funhouse mirror resolution on AW?

I dont watch the show regularly so alot of this stuff is news to me. I thought Ryder as Kevin's brother was a scam. I didnt realize it was true

Well, it does depend on DNA evidence, so it's not necessarily true, but I had hoped it might be true before...before...this.

Didn't Felicia Gallant and Jason Frame have some kind of funhouse mirror resolution on AW?

I brought that up too.

At this point, just let Y&R die and go to soap heaven as well...

Mmm-hmm.

Can't we find out that everything that has happened over this past year was all a delusional soap opera playing in Patty's (Andrea Evan's) head and when they cut to her she's holding a picture of Jack and Jabots new PR woman Mary Jane Benson. I'd like to believe that Adam never gas lighted Ashley, (she is menopausal instead of pregnant), Colleen moved to New York to live with her mother and Sharon is just starting her kleptomania and hasn't slept with half the town.

I could go for all of that, especially the Adam story. And since we'd be being asked to believe it was all a dream, I'd let it be Adam's dream, in which he became an entire different person, and we'd pull back and there would be Chris Engen telling the story.

Hell, just have Cassie wake up from a dream and that the last 5 years never happened...

I thought Cassie's death really did render great story, so I wouldn't go back so far as to have it be her dream.

Nope, not realistic. But if they are going to foist this crap on TV, and have the genre die as the worst kind of laughing stock, then PLEASE don't renew past 2011. Don't worry about a fitting ending. Just pull the plug.

Seriously. Please don't renew past 1:30 this afternoon.

I think for Y&R to possibly prosper, Maria Arena Bell has to step down and admit to herself (publicly would be nice, but her ego won't allow that) that she was way over her head and she's an amateur with little training to be running the #1 soap. She can then proceed to seek out someone with a better reputation, or just get Alden or Smith back, to write the show to its ultimate grave...The cast has to be cut, the writing staff has to be slashed, and a better/more cohesive writing team needs to be hired. But again, none of this is realistic. I, too, wouldn't mind the show not living past 2011 at this point...

I could go for that.

The way I see it, where there is life there is hope. Maybe the odds are bad, but there is a chance. Once a show is dead, it's dead for good, so I will never wish cancellation on Y&R.

I would MUCH rather the show die today than have it continue in its current downward direction. Nothing short of the replacement of anyone and everyone who comes up with story will do. And that new team will need to be left on its own to write the show. Nothing less will do.

I brought that up too.

OMG on Donna's hair, which looked so normal BITD.

So Kevin, the statutory rapist and would be murderer, is disgusted at the thought of having Daisy and Ryder as siblings.

So Kevin, the statutory rapist and would be murderer, is disgusted at the thought of having Daisy and Ryder as siblings.

I think Charles Manson would balk at being related to Daisy.

The writers are kinda counting on the viewers' memory being wiped clean of all of Kevin's crimes. Ugh.

I think Charles Manson would balk at being related to Daisy.

True, but unlike Kevin, Charles wouldn't pretend that he had the moral high ground over Daisy.

The writers are kinda counting on the viewers' memory being wiped clean of all of Kevin's crimes. Ugh.

We'll have to do it again if Ryder is redeemed.

So Kevin, the statutory rapist and would be murderer, is disgusted at the thought of having Daisy and Ryder as siblings.

Oh, there you are, Queenie.

Oh, there you are, Queenie.

I'm not Queenie.

The writers are kinda counting on the viewers' memory being wiped clean of all of Kevin's crimes. Ugh.

I never saw any of Kevin's crimes, so I have no memory of them, and it allows me to like him. Well, that plus he's just as cute as can be.

We'll have to do it again if Ryder is redeemed.

I wonder if I'll have a problem with him that way. I never want to see Daisy again, but part of that is the sound of her voice. I just hate the sound of her voice.