Y&R is dead. Dead. And Buried.

Thus, I think it's an idea to post our favourite clips from yesteryear in order to relive some of the deliciousness that used to be Y&R.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFRmramYA8&feature=PlayList&p=4A55F020A056FDE8&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=39

Y&R is dead. Dead. And Buried.

Thus, I think it's an idea to post our favourite clips from yesteryear in order to relive some of the deliciousness that used to be Y&R.

http://www.youtube.c...next=1&index=39

It is a tragedy that so little of the "historical" Y&R remains for us to do this with.

If only we could acquire classic-Y&R. (I know all the reasons this is impractical). If we could, though, I wonder at what era I'd stop buying?

It is a tragedy that so little of the "historical" Y&R remains for us to do this with.

If only we could acquire classic-Y&R. (I know all the reasons this is impractical). If we could, though, I wonder at what era I'd stop buying?

2003. Right when Kay discovered that Jill was her 'daughter'. I loved those scenes. Everything after that, shite.

I haven't thought the show was that bad this week/last week...I know I'll get major [!@#$%^&*] for that.

2003. Right when Kay discovered that Jill was her 'daughter'. I loved those scenes. Everything after that, shite.

+1

I still can't believe people bash Ryder. He's one of the best things about this crappy show. Plus, Wilson Bethel is hot. Really hot. He needs to be shirtless more.

+1. Super hot.

I love your posts!

I never saw this Jamie Elman before. He was totally wasted. His scenes should have created tension...it should clearly have been established over many Bell days that Patty's "story" for him and his actual story were opposed. Bill Bell would have created agonizing tension around this discovery. Instead, it was over in a day...and very boring.

Do you really think it's over? He's so good, it would be really stupid on their part not to keep him around. Of course, "stupid on their part" is practically their mantra.

+1. Super hot.

Bethel was originally auditioned for Chance. I'd have bought him much more as a haunted ex-soldier. AND he seems younger to me than Driscoll...more troubled. I would have bought him more as the boy with the daddy-abandonment issues.

Instead, they put Bethel in this throwaway character (he's still recurring!), and we get that (handsome) lug Driscoll as Chance...not exactly one of daytime's most compelling new characters.

Bethel was originally auditioned for Chance. I'd have bought him much more as a haunted ex-soldier. AND he seems younger to me than Driscoll...more troubled. I would have bought him more as the boy with the daddy-abandonment issues.

Instead, they put Bethel in this throwaway character (he's still recurring!), and we get that (handsome) lug Driscoll as Chance...not exactly one of daytime's most compelling new characters.

Chance was never supposed to be a haunted soldier though -- he was always supposed to be a Dudley Do-Right, to make sure we know Chloe can never have with him what he had with Billy. Chance's Daddy abandonment issues were also never important.

Bethel is so generic and emaciated, I can buy him as Kevin's brother.

Chance was never supposed to be a haunted soldier though -- he was always supposed to be a Dudley Do-Right, to make sure we know Chloe can never have with him what he had with Billy. Chance's Daddy abandonment issues were also never important.

Bethel is so generic and emaciated, I can buy him as Kevin's brother.

If you're gonna bring somebody back from Iraq, why not write him as "dead eyes"?

My wish would have been Bethel's Chance and Mac...two dead-inside broken PTSD folks who heal each other through friendship and eventual love...but always have the demons of the horrors they've seen right behind their shoulders.

But that is SO not how daytime works. and CERTAINLY not Y&R these days.

But you're right. The intent was always "Dudley Do-Right" (ironically, a Canadian Mountie)...and that is so dull it makes me want to scream.

I still can't believe people bash Ryder. He's one of the best things about this crappy show. Plus, Wilson Bethel is hot. Really hot. He needs to be shirtless more.

I'd like Ryder more if half the cast wasn't being neglected and if they didn't create a role specifically for him. The fact that they shoehorned him into the show may be one of the reasons why the Terroni/Mama Bear storylines are what they are.

Were more likely to see Eric Braden shirtless.

If you're gonna bring somebody back from Iraq, why not write him as "dead eyes"?

Iraq was just a plot device. I don't think they ever had any real plans there.

I don't even think Ryder is supposed to be dead eyes. I think in the show's mind we're supposed to pity him. It's just he has this weird creepiness that puts me off, like with Billy and Kevin, two others the show sees as ideal.

I'd like Ryder more if half the cast wasn't being neglected and if they didn't create a role specifically for him. The fact that they shoehorned him into the show may be one of the reasons why the Terroni/Mama Bear storylines are what they are.

+1.

If you're gonna bring somebody back from Iraq, why not write him as "dead eyes"?

My wish would have been Bethel's Chance and Mac...two dead-inside broken PTSD folks who heal each other through friendship and eventual love...but always have the demons of the horrors they've seen right behind their shoulders.

But that is SO not how daytime works. and CERTAINLY not Y&R these days.

But you're right. The intent was always "Dudley Do-Right" (ironically, a Canadian Mountie)...and that is so dull it makes me want to scream.

Bethel should have played Chance. The Chancellor men have always been dreamy lost souls, yearning for something they cannot have and compulsively drawn to bitch-goddesses.

But this actor, much as like him, is neither the saviour of Y&R nor the symptom of all its problems.

(And I know I just broke my promise to not participate in the Y&R debate, but what can I say? The posts here are always thought-provoking. Anyhoo, I'll leave you guys to it).

It's just he has this weird creepiness that puts me off, like with Billy and Kevin, two others the show sees as ideal.

Queenie, is that you?