Anyone watch these shows? I absolutely love them. Ive watched NJ and Atlanta and now they are airing NY. Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs. Anyone else watching the current season of NY. Lots of drama. My favorites are Bethany and Kelly. I also like Jill although she bugs me. Alex does nothing for me and I cant stand Ramona and LuAnn

Heather's not wrong. I gossip about b-tches I dont like so I cant judge her. Shannon's issue should have been with Tamra who was supposed to be her friend and ran and told it to Heather. She did NOT have to reveal that Shannon was going through marital problems. She should have kept it cute and say Shannon is going through a lot and so when she comes at you it may not necessarily be you she's just going through a tough time right now. Tamra is messy and a liar.

My ass gossips to but I know its wrong. I cant help myself sometimes but I think most have someone they don't like that they will talk about. I think the problem was Heather repeating something personal about Crazy's marriage that she heard second hand to a bunch of stranger that Crazy doesn't even know which got back to her. I personally wouldn't do that. Heather's gossiping should have been limited to her own interactions with Crazy. I don't think it was right to share intimate details about her marriage to a table of women

I enjoy Shannon for what she provides to the show -- story, drama and the appropriate amount of cray. But Team Heather all the way on this one. Shannon has picked up that Tamra and Vicki are/were on the outs with Heather, so now she is targeting Heather as the "bad guy" to make herself look like the poor victim in their eyes. Nevermind that Heather couldn't give a flying !@#$%^&*] about her and probably goes out of her way to avoid her. I cannot get over how Shannon left her precious children just to "confront" Heather in her own home about something Tamra did. No wonder Heather kicked her out. I would have, too, and not as elegantly and efficiently as Heather.

OMG @ Tery giggling in the background of the fight, and then clearing up the drinks at the end as a hint to Shannon to GTFO.

Shannon is now using the incident to get her bored husband and the HWs to feel sorry for her. I can't with this ho boohooing about how traumatic it was for her to get asked to leave somebody's house blah blah it has never happened to her before blah blah she now needs calming oils to get over the whole experience. Stop milking this non-event, you passive-aggressive loon.

In other news, Tamra's thirst for story is getting desperate. Nice way to admit to having told Heather but still throwing her under the bus for "being so mean." And Vicki & Brooks are so fake and not-genuine in their interactions, it literally makes my skin crawl. Vicki probably can't pick up on it because she's so busy obsessing over herself. Brooks groaning on the massage table, barf.

I was watching Alex McCord's videos and I love how much insider info she gives us in regards to how Housewives works back stage. She was talking about the Montana trip and says the person that hosts the trips are usually being rewarded for bringing drama I.e. Kenya getting to host Mexico after Pillow Talk or Joyce getting to host Puerto Rico after her stuff with Brandi.

She also said Housewives get paid below minimum wage in regard to how many hours they put in on first season and that the longer a housewife remains on the show the more vulnerable she becomes to getting cut. They have to constantly prove their worth so producers dont find them expendable as three newbies can be the cost of one veteran. I bet that's why Gretchen got fired. She was going on her sixth season and was still dragging out her boring relationship with Slimy and whether or not she would have a child.

Yeah that's why Sheree got cut. She'd have been expensive in S5 and she wasn't bringing much to the table to justify her costs. Ditto to LuAnn

Well, I hope they put LuAnn back on full HW status because I think she has earned her keep this season. In fact, I think she might be my favorite this season. I really felt for her when she shouted at Sonja about the facialist gossiping. I would feel hurt too if one of my close friends didn't defend me if an employee of theirs gossiped about or badmouthed me.

Poor Akes. I feel so bad for her. Making below minimum wage when she was on RHONY. LOL.

Sonja could care less because all she cares about is her next drink and that's why her and Ramona friendship is so strong because that's what they both truly care about.

I just read this. :lol:

I loved the previws for NYC. Kristen coming for Heather with Heather ready to shut that bitch down!

The Kristen/Heather bickering was so tedious to watch - I sadly didn't enjoy that. I think this Montana trip is a bust - I'm with Ramona - boring!

I am on Team Luann with the facialist story.

Shannon on the OC continues to be a big win for me... she's so authentic and is literally carrying this season. This episode all revolved around her. Without Shannon, we'd have nothing. I love Shannon!

Did you guys see that two of the husbands of the RH have their own show on E! called Botched? The premise is that they fix bad plastic surgery on patients. The first episode just aired. Will check it out soon as I like Terry and it might be interesting to see Paul again without the Hoof attached to him

I agree Shannon is adding a lot. But authentic? Nope. Not. At. All.

I agree Shannon is adding a lot. But authentic? Nope. Not. At. All.

and takes a sip. Keeping it real with Crazy Beador

NYC

And one more thing I want to add is that it just hit me that Aviva wasnt in the last episode. That is a problem. If she returns next year, as much as I like her, she needs to be demoted bc she has not earned that apple. I think everyone should be allowed one absense from the trips that season and thats it. She's missed out on two now and thats unnacepptable as she isnt participating and working for her spot. I think she would be best served popping in and out, causing trouble as a recurring villian, sort of like a Faye, Kim D and Marlo. Wouldnt you agree? She's crazy enough to keep around for the drama but not invested enough to warrant more focus.

The Kristen/Heather bickering was so tedious to watch - I sadly didn't enjoy that. I think this Montana trip is a bust - I'm with Ramona - boring!

I am on Team Luann with the facialist story.

That episode was too boring to evoke a response out of me. I honestly think both LuAnn and Sonja and Heather and Kristen's arguments were fake and I couldn't care less.

NYC

And one more thing I want to add is that it just hit me that Aviva wasnt in the last episode. That is a problem. If she returns next year, as much as I like her, she needs to be demoted bc she has not earned that apple. I think everyone should be allowed one absense from the trips that season and thats it. She's missed out on two now and thats unnacepptable as she isnt participating and working for her spot. I think she would be best served popping in and out, causing trouble as a recurring villian, sort of like a Faye, Kim D and Marlo. Wouldnt you agree? She's crazy enough to keep around for the drama but not invested enough to warrant more focus.

I would maybe consider keeping her as a Friend and ONLY as a Friend. I just feel like whatever they do with NYC won't work. This season had Aviva participated fully then I feel we would've had a much better season. It started off gangbusters, but it lost serious momentum after a while. I also think Kristen has done her job, but she needs to go. They need to be bold with their choices for next season.

My current thinking is...

Keep: Carole, Heather, LuAnn, Ramona

Friend of the Housewives: Aviva, Bethenny - This might sound far-fetched, but if Bravo ties it in with a deal for her own show she'll do it.

New Wives: Jill Zarin (especially if Dina's return works for RHONJ, do this!), Jo from RHOC, Jennifer Williams from Basketball Wives. Basically, there are so many women out there and they need to be more bold with their choices. In New York they have the choice of former housewives, people from other shows and non-white women in general. If they broaden their horizons it'll open them up to stronger casting choices and the potential for better ratings.