Y&R was horrible last week, IMO. The Adam "reveal" was anticlimactic and poorly constructed.

Where the hell is the payoff on this reveal? It felt like even though everyone was onto the character, there was nothing high stakes at all about the revelation. Let down as usual, thanks to the incompetent writing staff at Y&R. I can see why some people tuned in, but I don't think it will be enough to have people tune in for more.

Y&R used to be able to give such satisfying payoffs, and this one felt like they were laying groundwork towards a Who Killed/Shot Adam Mystery.

That's our Alvin ...shittin on Y&R's party. I say that in good fun btw.

Ruxton, I am going to apologize for the what I said before. I came off to strong and I am sorry. It's just the gut feeling, and something you just do that instant.

People always think I genuinely only want to hate on that show. But it sucks so bad right now and has for at least the past year. The Adam reveal and payoff weren't thrilling to watch at all, talk about an anticlimactic mess.

I remember when no one other soaps did the payoffs Y&R used to give, now even when there is a reveal or payoff, I'm asking myself, "That's it?" or "What the the f.uck was that?"

And as I said before, what the hell was settled with this payoff/revelation? It felt like nothing happened in the end and we're on our way to some lame murder mystery.

Edited March 21, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Ruxton, I am going to apologize for the what I said before. I came off to strong and I am sorry. It's just the gut feeling, and something you just do that instant.

No need to. You feel passionate about your show. I just remember the days when AMC was better. I think it still needs a major overhaul and a move wasnt the problem. They need better vision for this show. They(ABC/Frons) have had enough chances to do it right. Yet, they think by moving it will solve their problems. So when I see shitty ratings for them it makes me happy because Frons will never learn. Greenlee returns and returns and returns...it gets dull and ridiculous pretty fast.

I am sorry too if I came off too strong as well.

No need to. You feel passionate about your show. I just remember the days when AMC was better. I think it still needs a major overhaul and a move wasnt the problem. They need better vision for this show. They(ABC/Frons) have had enough chances to do it right. Yet, they think by moving it will solve their problems. So when I see shitty ratings for them it makes me happy because Frons will never learn. Greenlee returns and returns and returns...it gets dull and ridiculous pretty fast.

I am sorry too if I came off too strong as well.

It's ok.

But I agree that Fron's has SCREWED up all the ABC shows since he came aboard....What was ABC thinking in hiring this man...

1.(1) Y&R: Monday: 3.6/4,869,000 (+232,000)

2.(2) DAYS: Monday: 2.3/3,220,000 (+125,000)

3.(3) B&B: Monday: 2.3/3,146,000 (+164,000)

4.(4) AMC: Monday: 2.0/2,819,000 (+140,000)

5.(5) GH: Monday: 2.1/2,792,000 (+377,000)

6.(6) OLTL: Monday: 2.0/2,737,000 (+416,000)

7.(7) ATWT: Monday: 1.8/2,516,000 (+275,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Tuesday: 3.7/5,281,000 (+412,000)

2.(3) B&B: Tuesday: 2.3/3,294,000 (+148,000)

3.(2) DAYS: Tuesday: 2.2/3,021,000 (-199,000)

4.(7) ATWT: Tuesday: 1.7/2,489,000 (-27,000)

5.(5) GH: Tuesday: 1.9/2,420,000 (-372,000)

6.(4) AMC: Tuesday: 1.9/2,415,000 (-404,000)

7.(6) OLTL: Tuesday: 1.8/2,312,000 (-425,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Wednesday: 3.7/5,043,000 (-238,000)

2.(2) B&B: Wednesday: 2.4/3,398,000 (+104,000)

3.(3) DAYS: Wednesday: 2.1/2,810,000 (-211,000)

4.(6) AMC: Wednesday: 2.0/2,599,000 (+184,000)

5.(4) ATWT: Wednesday: 1.8/2,403,000 (-86,000)

6.(5) GH: Wednesday: 1.8/2,394,000 (-26,000)

7.(7) OLTL: Wednesday: 1.9/2,393,000 (+81,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Thursday: 3.5/4,831,000 (-212,000)

2.(2) B&B: Thursday: 2.3/3,278,000 (-120,000)

3.(3) DAYS: Thursday: 2.0/2,796,000 (-14,000)

4.(5) ATWT: Thursday: 1.8/2,505,000 (+102,000)

5.(6) GH: Thursday: 1.8/2,504,000 (+110,000)

6.(4) AMC: Thursday: 1.8/2,366,000 (-233,000)

7.(7) OLTL: Thursday: 1.7/2,270,000 (-123,000)

1.(1) Y&R: Friday: 3.8/5,406,000 (+575,000)

2.(2) B&B: Friday: 2.3/3,179,000 (-99,000)

3.(3) DAYS: Friday: 2.0/2,820,000 (+24,000)

4.(5) GH: Friday: 1.9/2,645,000 (+141,000)

5.(6) AMC: Friday: 1.9/2,600,000 (+234,000)

6.(4) ATWT: Friday: 1.8/2,430,000 (-75,000)

7.(7) OLTL: Friday: 1.7/2,417,000 (+147,000)

The best Y&R could get for their big hyped "Let's have Grandpa and Ronn Moss Nick whoop Adam's a$$" week is a +1 increase? They spent how long trashing characters and burning through story for +1?

The way this story was RUSHED you can tell they wanted to get this crappy s/l out of the way POST HASTE and they didn't care how they did it. And I concur LOL. I want it GONE. So the fact that they even got a +.1 increase, I will take it. And they had a pretty decent Friday for what appears to be over 1/2 million more people tuning in from what they had on Thursday..that's pretty good. Now can they sustain it,I haven't got a clue but I am going give them a handshake for the past week.

The way this story was RUSHED you can tell they wanted to get this crappy s/l out of the way POST HASTE and they didn't care how they did it.

But what storylines and important beats aren't rushed on Y&R anymore? It's just lazy storytelling.

The way this story was RUSHED you can tell they wanted to get this crappy s/l out of the way POST HASTE and they didn't care how they did it. And I concur LOL. I want it GONE. So the fact that they even got a +.1 increase, I will take it. And they had a pretty decent Friday for what appears to be over 1/2 million more people tuning in from what they had on Thursday..that's pretty good. Now can they sustain it,I haven't got a clue but I am going give them a handshake for the past week.

Wasn't Friday's show where Adam ran away from Jack and Victor? I thought that was a funny ass moment. And not in a good way....lol

And not in a good way....lol

That was...sad, yeah sad, lol. I think Friday was also the follow up to Phyllis about to light the match on the Faith reveal letter (Thursday).

Wasn't Friday's show where Adam ran away from Jack and Victor? I thought that was a funny ass moment. And not in a good way....lol

Umm, please do not get me started LOL!! As I said I want to forget this storyline ever happened even moreso that this was MAB trying to show me what a genius she is.

That was...sad, yeah sad, lol. I think Friday was also the follow up to Phyllis about to light the match on the Faith reveal letter (Thursday).

Yeah, you are right...did she or did she not burn the letter?!!! Inquiring minds wanted to know apparently.

But what storylines and important beats aren't rushed on Y&R anymore? It's just lazy storytelling.

I agree with you.

But for a s/l like this to have to be so rushed, I don't think this s/l was going down well with the network probably and certainly not us viewers. So this is one time I won't complain about the speed of the writing. Move it along and quickly please, let's got onto something else.

I was actually surprised to see Y&R go up. Though I think Y&R stinks right now due to this whole "Adam reveal" crap, I feel it is a good sign to see those ratings in daytime.

They have completely destroyed a legacy character and subjected viewers to a year of all this endless torture and women being violated left and right. All for this one week of Grambo and Ridge Nick on the warpath. Of all the stories on Y&R at the moment I thought this was the one that would get more of an increase.

I can go along with this only if you intend to get rid of Jason also, right? He is worse than Sonny.

Whoops, yes. I forgot to list Jason. He would definitely go. Unless there was a way to bring back his Q memories and make him a doctor, or something...but yes, Jason would definitely be gone most likely.

Gotta say that for a cancelled show, ATWT is doing fairly well in viewers. Show came within 75,000 viewers of tieing GH for fifth place and beat OLTL. A show normally drops after the ax falls but World Turns has been oddly steady for quite a while now. It has a loyal core following and, with the right team, could be rehabed. Even the demos are pretty close to the other bottom four shows.

As for Y&R, the show is a dud. I know all of you hated Latham's vision; however, under her direction the show was still Y&R as opposed to this [!@#$%^&*]. I doubt they will ever be able to rid the show of Ma Bell but, honestly, they should beg Latham to return.

I see some of the same characters but this is no longer the same program we've all been watcing for decades and should be renamed The Young and the Victor.

Edited March 22, 201015 yr by Saving ATWT