That's the rumor and according to this and TMZ, it's happening right after the Olympics.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2010/01/is_nbc_moving_jay_leno_back_to.html

TMZ Drop

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/07/jay-leno-nbc-conan-obrien-tonight-show/

Edited January 8, 201015 yr by JaneAusten

Fantastic. Can you believe she's 76. Tremendous energy and still relevant.

People are man to her (expected):

It's her ego talking to herself.

"... the old women that try to look young..."

wait a second..

looks like a duck

what a hypocrite

Etc.

Which a very simple illustration of why she would never run TTS and why they were right in not giving it to her. People just don't like her, sadly.

People are man to her (expected):

It's her ego talking to herself.

"... the old women that try to look young..."

wait a second..

looks like a duck

what a hypocrite

Etc.

Which a very simple illustration of why she would never run TTS and why they were right in not giving it to her. People just don't like her, sadly.

You know I think that's a misconception. The people who don't like her, in my experience, don't like women comics generally. A lot of people of my generation who grew up with her love her. She's like a security blanket that's been lovingly stitched and botoxed and restylaned and chemical peeled right into our hearts.

And when it comes to The Tonight Show that was sexism, plain and simple. Her initial ratings at Fox were quite good, it's only after Carson made it known that anyone who went on her show wasn't welcome on his that the guests started falling away and the ratings eroded and then the interference with the execs at Fox.

When Joan gets to do her thing, she's fabulous and I think she comes off very well.

Edited January 16, 201015 yr by DaytimeFan

You know I think that's a misconception. The people who don't like her, in my experience, don't like women comics generally. A lot of people of my generation who grew up with her love her. She's like a security blanket that's been lovingly stitched and botoxed and restylaned and chemical peeled right into our hearts.

I see that because I like her. But people misinterpret her and don't understand her — sometimes intentionally — and that's why she is where she is.

And when it comes to The Tonight Show that was sexism, plain and simple. Her initial ratings at Fox were quite good, it's only after Carson made it known that anyone who went on her show wasn't welcome on his that the guests started falling away and the ratings eroded and then the interference with the execs at Fox.

When Joan gets to do her thing, she's fabulous and I think she comes off very well.

It was sexism. But sadly I am not convinced the ratings would have been stable...

Oh thank guys, now I want on an unplanned Joan Rivers marathon. "Melissa come with momma, grab a banana, get on your knees. Momma wants to talk to you!"

BEST LINE EVER!

I see that because I like her. But people misinterpret her and don't understand her — sometimes intentionally — and that's why she is where she is.

I know you don't mean that to come across as if Joan is in a gutter where she belongs but I want to make it clear that I think Joan Rivers has blazed a trail for women in comedy as well as a trail for anyone who is 'different'. Some would argue that Phyllis Diller was the one who started it but I disagree, you laughed AT Phyllis Diller, you laughed WITH Joan Rivers. Additionally, I think it's clear that with a mega business on QVC, sold out club dates around the world, bestselling books, talks show appearances and other television work, Joan Rivers is where she is because she's a real talent and a real survivor and someone whose stick to it attitude is one I find immensley encouraging.

As well, Joan's relevance is something that cannot be overlooked. Even with Kimmel if she didn't bring in numbers she wouldn't get booked. She appeals to women and the younger demographics. Who cares if she doesn't appeal to 48 year old men in Nebraska, she has her audience and it is an audience that embraces her.

It was sexism. But sadly I am not convinced the ratings would have been stable...

The ratings when she was guest host on The Tonight Show were always excellent, she had that gig for 3 years without interruption. I really would have liked to see how she would have done if she'd been given a real shot in late night.

Oh thank guys, now I want on an unplanned Joan Rivers marathon. "Melissa come with momma, grab a banana, get on your knees. Momma wants to talk to you!"

BEST LINE EVER!

Joan 'goes there' with her comedy. Her last special was entitled "Joan Rivers: Before Melissa Pulls the Plug"...fearless.

I know I've taken this thread way off track with Joan Rivers, but I really think she got horridly screwed over in the 80s and I think the same thing is happening to Conan. I only hope he bounces back as well as she has.

And I have to laugh at the hipocrisy and naïveté of the general public commenting this. All of a sudden Jay is the devil and Conan is the sweetest thing on Earth. Where were these people who defend Conan now when he needed them, why didn't they watch his show? Because they don't like it. Nor him. And suddenly he is great.

I have to agree, I like Conan, but he didn't seem a great fit for TS

Another article:

http://www.thedailyb.../good-riddance/

Self-confessed "Cocophile" Bryan Curtis was left "utterly bored" by Conan's "Tonight," pointing out that nobody seems to be defending the quality of his seven-month stint. "When O'Brien sat down at Johnny's desk, the gravitas seemed to throw off his balance," he says. "The show's first week was an embarrassing celebration of all things Conan—see the opening sketch. It should have rightly celebrated the whole Conan traveling circus, from the dog to the masturbating bear."

Edited January 17, 201015 yr by Zendall Fan

I think Conan is really best suited to Fox. Seems to me he can be more himself on a new show on that network. I just hope he gets that chance.

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/anti-nbc-frenzy-continues-over-conan-firing/#more-22729

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/conan-obrien-leaving-nbc.html

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id3e0b71b5f1a6df49c39fb3f3749b81d

Conan needs to grow the hell up. He was never right for The Tonight Show. And now with calling Ebersol an id!ot he is just the same as Dick.

I have to agree, I like Conan, but he didn't seem a great fit for TS.

With all due respect to the both of you, since when has someone "being right" for the job stopped NBC from giving someone a chance? Look at crap like The Office and Heroes. Repeatedly circling the vortex of suckage after its first season, yet they continue to renew these shows because of the cult buzz, instead of the ratings.

Doesn't matter if Conan wasn't performing or if it's a different time today than it was back then, where you could give someone over two years to git-r-done. They should have stuck by him. I'm a fan of Nightline, but I used to love his show back in the day. He deserved the shot.

And Jay is a proven ratings winner, absolutely. But will viewers follow him back, especially considering the negative publicity that he will never be able to shake in an age of the internet and word of mouth AND the fact that NBC(barring putting To Catch a Predator on the lineup three nights a week) will be able to get back some of lost 10PM audience(that trickles down from the local news to The Tonight Show)?

Did you hear Julia Roberts on the Golden Globes pre-show, dismissing NBC as being in the "toilet" and joking that the rain they had was supposed to be moved up an hour (like Leno's show).

Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks were with her and Rita was like this

I think she was upset because earlier that annoying Billy Bush was talking to Sandra Bullock about Julia turning down both of Sandra's 2009 hit movies, but I still

Edited January 18, 201015 yr by CarlD2

Did you hear Julia Roberts on the Golden Globes pre-show, dismissing NBC as being in the "toilet" and joking that the rain they had was supposed to be moved up an hour (like Leno's show).

Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks were with her and Rita was like this

I think she was upset because earlier that annoying Billy Bush was talking to Sandra Bullock about Julia turning down both of Sandra's 2009 hit movies, but I still

I saw that.

Also, Julia Roberts may also be disgusted with Billy Bush because of the more sensational direction Access Hollywood has taken(which is why Nancy O'Dell allegedly quit, among other things).

I just caught up on all of the Letterman/Leno bits. I bet Letterman, win or lose, is laughing all the way to the bank.

I want Conan/Letterman on Late Show together bashing Leno.

I didn't know Nancy had quit. I hope she finds a good job elsewhere.

Billy Bush is so pathetic and weasely. He's unwatchable TV. Failing upwards wins out once again.

I didn't know Nancy had quit. I hope she finds a good job elsewhere.

Billy Bush is so pathetic and weasely. He's unwatchable TV. Failing upwards wins out once again.

And Access Hollywood is, of course, a NBC/Uni property. No surprise there.

ETA: What I want to know is, where's the money gonna come from to promote Leno going back to The Tonight Show? They have to promote the 10PM hour that is crucial to them rebuilding the lineup and helping out the local news which will cause the trickle down effect. They have to promote the Winter Olympics, which, from what I saw during the Golden Globes, NBC isn't doing anything to promote, except bumpers at the bottom of the screen. Maybe NBC is hoping for another Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan drama, but that should have happened by now.

Do they assume word of mouth will bring back those Tonight Show viewers?

Edited January 18, 201015 yr by bellcurve

And Access Hollywood is, of course, a NBC/Uni property. No surprise there.

ETA: What I want to know is, where's the money gonna come from to promote Leno going back to The Tonight Show? They have to promote the 10PM hour that is crucial to them rebuilding the lineup and helping out the local news which will cause the trickle down effect. They have to promote the Winter Olympics, which, from what I saw during the Golden Globes, NBC isn't doing anything to promote, except bumpers at the bottom of the screen. Maybe NBC is hoping for another Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan drama, but that should have happened by now.

Do they assume word of mouth will bring back those Tonight Show viewers?

They probably think they're already getting a lot of free publicity. They seemed to be promoing a lot of shows which are already a lost cause (some of their Thursday night sitcoms; Heroes).

I wonder if Conan's ratings increase might improve his chances of getting a show on another network.

I liked Julianna Margueiles's comment about CBS supporting 10 PM scripted programs. Since she wouldn't even have a big career if not for NBC and their 10 PM programming (ER), it was a good little jab at them.