I see a common trend with many Zendall fans and Nuke fans. They talk and talk about how much TPTB suck, and they talk about this until they're blue in the face, yet they're jonesing over couples that the very same TPTB put together. One can say that Writer sucks and is a hack and never does anything right and doesn't know anything at all about soap writing, yet your mouth waters and common sense flies out the window over a couple that HE/SHE created. That writer can't be all that horrible if you're busy working away on banners and avatars and message boards and websites and all this and all that for a couple that he/she created and he/she writes.

Is that true with Zendall? McTavish seemed to be the main force behind Zach and Kendall. She was out in early/mid 2007. B&E wrote more about Zach's great connection with Greenlee, and Pratt, I don't think he's ever been that fond of them. He had Zach lusting after Reese and then nailing Liza on the roulette wheel.

Edited December 28, 200915 yr by CarlD2

Enough about Zendall! On to the Top 10 Moments of AMC: http://abc.go.com/shows/all-my-children/photo-details/top-40-moments-of-all-my-children-moments-110/363454/?image=end-card

10. Nina and Cliff's Storybook Wedding (1980)

9. Tornado 2008 (2008)

8. Who Killed Will? (1992)

7. Explosion at the Mardi Gras Ball (2006)

6. Liza Catches Tad & Marian Together (1983)

5. Jesse and Angie Reunite (2008)

4. Natalie Trapped in the Well (1991)

3. Bianca Gets Her Baby Back (2004)

2. Kendall is Erica's Daughter (1993)

1. Bianca Comes Out (2000)

Boooo! I CANT believe that Skye/Janet/Erica vs Kinder didnt make the list. That was MY favorite moment ever

The tornado and the Mardi Gras Ball were not even worth the top 20.

The Mardi Gras Ball was great TV. I dont mind it in the top 10. The 2008 tornado however should not have been rated higher than the 1995 one

Is that true with Zendall? McTavish seemed to be the main force behind Zach and Kendall. She was out in early/mid 2007. B&E wrote more about Zach's great connection with Greenlee, and Pratt, I don't think he's ever been that fond of them. He had Zach lusting after Reese and then nailing Liza on the roulette wheel.

I mainly meant McTash there. Everyone was ready for her ass to go, but the whole time, I'm looking at Zendall fans like..."Uh...but she writes for your lame ass couple, and she's obsessed with Zach. You should hate to see her go."

The Mardi Gras Ball was great TV. I dont mind it in the top 10. The 2008 tornado however should not have been rated higher than the 1995 one

I loved the Mardi Gras Ball too. The tornado, not so much. Okay, not at all.

To hell with Zendall. You mean to tell me that in the 40 year history of AMC, let me repeat, forty year history of AMC, they are the 8th best couple of them ALL? The 8th!? It is tragic, and I am fully aware that "tragic" is a hyperbolic word here, but hey, I calls it as I sees it.

I see a common trend with many Zendall fans and Nuke fans. They talk and talk about how much TPTB suck, and they talk about this until they're blue in the face, yet they're jonesing over couples that the very same TPTB put together. One can say that Writer sucks and is a hack and never does anything right and doesn't know anything at all about soap writing, yet your mouth waters and common sense flies out the window over a couple that HE/SHE created. That writer can't be all that horrible if you're busy working away on banners and avatars and message boards and websites and all this and all that for a couple that he/she created and he/she writes.

It'd be different if: A, people weren't so damn over-the-top in how much they dislike TPTB. I don't think Passanante is all that amazing, but I can recognize and say that I think she writes very entertaining stories every now and then. Or B, if people owned it and said "Well, this couple's stories are absolutely horrid, but I think they have great chemistry, or I think they look very good together." I loathe Nuke's stories and am totally not a fan at all, but I can admit that VH and JS look very very good together. It's not that hard to do at all. It just requires some pride swallowing, and I know that soap fans are notorious for their refusal to swallow.

Rant over.

I want to marry this post! Yeah, in the 40-year history of AMC, Zzzendull were a blip on the radar and they shouldn't have even made this list.

I mainly meant McTash there. Everyone was ready for her ass to go, but the whole time, I'm looking at Zendall fans like..."Uh...but she writes for your lame ass couple, and she's obsessed with Zach. You should hate to see her go."

OK, sorry. The Zendall fans I knew/read posts from generally didn't start to really hate the writing for them until B&E started. I forgot it wouldn't be the same for other fans.

All My Shadows? Best. Rant. Ever.

Surprised by Angie and Jesse. However, they defied odds and are still together and are still on the canvas, so that does deserve a number 1.

Who Killed Will should be a little bit higher.

Lily and Jonathan as a top 40 couple?

Who killed Will is the only good mystery McTavish did--I agree. Zandall though I was only a fan the first few months, doesn't bother me too much... I thought abc.com would be even more shameless about pimping current stories and chracters and there's no denying they have a following.

http://abc.go.com/shows/all-my-children/photo-details/amc-top-40-couples-couples-110/363206/?image=end-card

10. Edmund and Maria

9. Phil and Tara

8. Kendall and Zach

7. Hayley and Mateo

6. Cliff and Nina

5. Joe and Ruth

4. Erica and Jack

3. Greg and Jenny

2. Tad and Dixie

1. Angie and Jesse

This list is seriously messed up. Kendell and Zack and Hayley and Mateo are enough to make me vomit.

It's weird seeing Edmund and Maria. I know they were, at one time, very popular, but they had about two years of decent story. By 1996 or 1997 their relationship had degraded to endless baby woe, with Maria in tears most of the time and Edmund as the self-righteous husband. Their reunion in 2002 eventually became a fiasco.

Edited December 29, 200915 yr by CarlD2

Iloved them when Maria joned the show. I think 2 years is pretty par for course for a soap couple--or SHOULD be though we have thesecouples endlessly draggedon. I prob would still be a Zendall fan if they had just had two years... Well...

OK, sorry. The Zendall fans I knew/read posts from generally didn't start to really hate the writing for them until B&E started. I forgot it wouldn't be the same for other fans.

Don't apologize

I don't think you get what I'm saying, though. I'm not necessarily talking about the people who complain about their couple's stories. It's more like...the people who almost separate their couple from the rest of the show. In one thread, they'll say..."Oh man, AMC sucks donkey balls big time. The whole show is a disaster," but then in another thread, it's "Oh man, Zendall is amazing couple, I love them, they are great, they are sexy, and they are epic."* Is this "amazing couple" not on a show that is wholly a "disaster?" It's either an over-the-top evaluation of the HW/EP (OMFG I HATE MCTAVISH/B&E/PRATT/PASSANANTE/ETC I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM THEY SUCK THEY'RE RUINING OUR SHOW AND IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT AND THAT'S IT AND AAAAAAH!!!!!!!!111oneoneoneeleven) or pretty shallow love for the couple, usually a mixture of them both. It falls into the "Bad writers never write good stories" category, but it also deals with that strange phenomena where a couple can get truly shiteous writing, but their most devoted fans will find a way to spin, and spin, and spin, and spin more than a girl on colorguard, until that shiteous writing is deemed "deep" and romantic."**

* - I can't believe I typed that ish, even for hypothetical reasons.

** - Yes, I'm talking about Zach murdering Josh to get his heart.

I see what you mean now.

I think people have very fond memories of a couple they aren't as likely to let go of, even if their opinion of the show plummets. That couple represents more for them than the program itself. I do think in some cases, fans do end up having a more negative opinion of a couple when really bad writing hits. With Zendall, at some boards, like TWOP, they had some big fans who, around the time of Zach killing Josh and the Reese crap and Zach becoming "Zonny", just stopped posting entirely, or stopped watching.

The fans who stay on are more likely to be more invested in that couple and the good memories they represent. It's a power struggle, and a way to have control over a soap which often treats viewers like they're meaningless.