Why do people think this is Beth's swan song?! As I said before, most of Traci's recent returns have had NOTHING to do with Colleen, so how will Colleen's death have any effect on Traci's future appearances at all? She still has three siblings in the contract cast. Whenever Jack, Ashley or Billy has a wedding or there is a Jabot board meeting, Traci will be there.

The show has less and less money, and they aren't going to care about bringing people back unless they have to. Given the general contempt this team has for the Abbotts, I can see this being it for her. Ashley and Billy barely interact with their family and Jack is becoming too unimportant to bring people back for.

Lily going to represent all the black folks that disappear.

This piece of s--t is supposed to represent?

Good lord Y&R is a hot mess

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She looks like a Muslim nun.

The show has less and less money, and they aren't going to care about bringing people back unless they have to. Given the general contempt this team has for the Abbotts, I can see this being it for her. Ashley and Billy barely interact with their family and Jack is becoming too unimportant to bring people back for.

Exactly, and Traci only ever comes back if someone dies or is hurt. That's really shameful use of Beth Maitland. She deserves better, and now Traci's ONLY child is dead...

She'll never get anything meaty again after this, and the writing wasn't even that good, but she rose above it.

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This piece of s--t is supposed to represent?

Till Dawn!

Two Or Three!

What about?!

What about?!

What about us girl?!

Till Dawn!

Two Or Three!

What about?!

What about?!

What about us girl?!

Lily wish she look like those girls in that video. Matter of fact Lily wish she look like Michael Jackson in this video. I love this video & now you mix it up with CKLily picture. I don't know how I feel about that video now.

I'm fed up with women constantly being victimized in different ways on this show. It's nasty and deeply misogynistic, and it NEVER stops. Almost every story has some trace of a woman that's been victimized.

Well, Alvin... in many ways, soaps have ALWAYS been like that... just not so FAST and so ALL AT ONCE. Women were victimized on Y&R all the time over the years, the idea behind this is it's SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE WOMEN WATCHING FEEL BETTER about their own lives, cause someone else's is way worse.

1: Gwen Sherman (Greg's girlfriend) badly beaten and put in the hospital when she treid to leave her pimp.

2: Jennifer Brooks - breast cancer

3: Chris Brooks- fooled around on by Snapper, and brutally raped and beaten in her apartment (Her rapist was played by Tony Geary) Then later, she was held hostage by Rose Deville.

4: Leslie Brooks- Had an emotional breakdown in New York, and was taken to a nut house as a Jane Doe, and stayed there for WEEKS while her family looked for her back in Genoa City, and she was tormented by the other patients, and they stole all her food and suffered from malnutrition while the staff could care less (This was DISTURBING, at least for a 7 year old watching it)

5: Sally- Snapper convincing her to be "friends with benefits" because Chris (Who he was dating) was a good girl, and he needed to get his rocks off.

6: Jill- Kay drives her own husband off a cliff just so Jill can't have him, tries to buy Jill's baby for a million dollars, and when she's not successful, bribes a judge to declare Jill and Phillip's deathbed marriage invalid.

7: Nancy Becker- driven to a psychotic break by her abusive husband.

8: Nikki- attempted rape by her own FATHER.

I could go on and on... I can think of at least 3 or 4 stories where women are victimized form EVERY YEAR in Y&R history. Theyr'e just pacing the sh!t too fast, that's all... it doens't need to come ALL AT ONCE.

Well, Alvin... in many ways, soaps have ALWAYS been like that... just not so FAST and so ALL AT ONCE. Women were victimized on Y&R all the time over the years, the idea behind this is it's SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE WOMEN WATCHING FEEL BETTER about their own lives, cause someone else's is way worse.

EVERYTHING on Y&R these days, in every storyline, is about some woman being victimized in some way. There isn't a single strong woman on this show at the moment in any storyline, and it's very noticeable.

Even diva-like characters like Jill have been rendered useless and pathetic. Who wants to see Jill with money problems that's being played for laughs, or her being painted as some demon to St. Katherine? We want Jill getting her cougar on or busting some balls in the boardroom.

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Lily wish she look like those girls in that video. Matter of fact Lily wish she look like Michael Jackson in this video. I love this video & now you mix it up with CKLily picture. I don't know how I feel about that video now.

:lol: :lol:

Why do people think this is Beth's swan song?! As I said before, most of Traci's recent returns have had NOTHING to do with Colleen, so how will Colleen's death have any effect on Traci's future appearances at all? She still has three siblings in the contract cast. Whenever Jack, Ashley or Billy has a wedding or there is a Jabot board meeting, Traci will be there.

This ain't gonna be her swan song. Maria has used Traci more than any other in recent times. And considering the GLOWING reception and reviews she's been getting... theyr'e not gonna cast her aside.

Maria has used Traci more than any other in recent times.

More than LML yes.

More than Alden/Smith no.

EVERYTHING on Y&R these days, in every storyline, is about some woman being victimized in some way. There isn't a single strong woman on this show at the moment in any storyline, and it's very noticeable.

It's not EVERYTIHNG in EVERY SL. Granted, that's what's happening THIS WEEK, but there's other SL's on the canvas where women arne't being victimized... Nina, Chloe, Mac.

but there's other SL's on the canvas where women arne't being victimized... Nina, Chloe, Mac.

Their combined airtime is less than Gloria's.

And Gloria's on the backburner.

It's not EVERYTIHNG in EVERY SL. Granted, that's what's happening THIS WEEK, but there's other SL's on the canvas where women arne't being victimized... Nina, Chloe, Mac.

I don't consider Nina to be in any storyline at the moment, at least not a main one.

Chloe is very pathetic and always in need of a man. She does all these crazy things to bet Billy's attention because she's obsessed with him, not exactly the most positive portrayal of a woman, I'd say.

Mac is just a disaster. Her entire being on this show has been about Billy. It's a shame.

If women aren't being victimized, they're somehow painted as living only for a man, and not in a dominant way, but in a way where they see a man as the be all and the end all of their existence. There's no man pining or obsessed with any woman on this show right now to counterbalance that. This is deeply misogynistic too.

Edited September 30, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Well, Alvin... in many ways, soaps have ALWAYS been like that... just not so FAST and so ALL AT ONCE. Women were victimized on Y&R all the time over the years, the idea behind this is it's SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE WOMEN WATCHING FEEL BETTER about their own lives, cause someone else's is way worse.

I think Bill Bell was also interested in seeing the women improve their lives, to overcome struggles. Leslie was fragile but she overcame her problems as best she could. Nikki overcame the abuse of her father. And these stories were ABOUT them.

The constant victim stories on Y&R now treat the women as an afterthought. In the old days of Y&R, if Chris Brooks was raped, it was by a nobody who only served that storyline. Now, when Ashley is violated, the man responsible is shoved at viewers day in and day out, the story all about him, while Ashley herself is the generic ingenue in peril.

The only time women get assertive is if it's about helping a man. So we get Victoria planning to troll emergency rooms and offer cash to those who might have dying relatives, and Nikki degrading herself for a man who has repeatedly wished her dead. Helen Reddy, eat your heart out.