I hate that the characters (Jack, Traci) keep saying that Victor "took three bullets that were intended for" Jack. That's not what I saw. Patty hadn't decided to kill Jack, she was debating on whether to kill Jack or Victor and it was only when Victor went for her that Patty shot at Victor. Does Jack really think that Victor made that stupid move to save Jack?

I hate that the characters (Jack, Traci) keep saying that Victor "took three bullets that were intended for" Jack. That's not what I saw. Patty hadn't decided to kill Jack, she was debating on whether to kill Jack or Victor and it was only when Victor went for her that Patty shot at Victor. Does Jack really think that Victor made that stupid move to save Jack?

It's part of this these hack writers way of trying to quell the damage they've caused to the Victor character recently. I don't buy it either, and I certainly didn't see things that way.

Um what happened to all the black people on this show?

Um what happened to all the black people on this show?

Abby: Hi everyone. I just got a text from my cool friend in Zurich that my grannies got killed in a plane crash on the way here.

(Abby tries to make a sad face)

OMG...LMAO

I enjoyed some moments of today's show.

I liked Nick and Victoria talking about Victor's "come to Jesus" moment if he survives. They have him pegged. But that means, if he survives. the surprise will be if he has a bona fide "change of heart".

It's a small thing, but I deeply appreciated Michael and Jack referencing their organ donation histories. Knowing that the connection to the past has not been totally forgotten...and comes up at the right time...means a lot to me.

I know most of you hate the babyswitch idea, but I'm really loving the setup. Done right, it could give us YEARS of drama for Adam, Sharon and Ashley. It works, especially, if Sharon goes off the rails and Adam falls for-real in love with Ash.

Tammin is not even in those scenes. They hired a body double for many of the shots with the cast. The body double is even listed in the credits. The cutaways of Tammin appear to be edited into the show.

I know most of you hate the babyswitch idea, but I'm really loving the setup. Done right, it could give us YEARS of drama for Adam, Sharon and Ashley. It works, especially, if Sharon goes off the rails and Adam falls for-real in love with Ash.

Who the heck wants to watch this sh-t go on for years. This Adam/Ashley mess has been a big fail for months. I cringe at the thought of having to deal with this for years to come

lol..someone needs to do an investigation. Neil, Olivia, Devon, Roxy and Tyra seemed to have disappeared without a trace.

Tammin is not even in those scenes. They hired a body double for many of the shots with the cast. The body double is even listed in the credits. The cutaways of Tammin appear to be edited into the show.

I wondered about that. I sort of assumed Tammin would be off right away making another movie. Or at least not happy to stick around under these conditions.

Neil, Olivia, Devon, Roxy and Tyra seemed to have disappeared without a trace.

Tyra didn't disappear - she had a 'goodbye' scene. Roxy broke up with Devon (and was a Latham character) which probably means we'll never see her again.

I wondered about that. I sort of assumed Tammin would be off right away making another movie. Or at least not happy to stick around under these conditions.

And who could blame her?

Edited September 30, 200916 yr by y&r_fan

Who the heck wants to watch this sh-t go on for years. This Adam/Ashley mess has been a big fail for months. I cringe at the thought of having to deal with this for years to come

Exactly, and it won't be done right with this writing regime. I have no faith in them, especially knowing the pacing style they tend to favour.

This set up is a joke, especially when they retconned the timelines of the pregnancies to make this happen, since you know they read that suggestion off message boards and decided to go with it a few months back.

At this point, I'm not vested in pathetic Sharon, one-note and cartoony Adam (played by the AWFUL Michael Muhney), or personality-less Ashley to care what the outcome of this silliness. You know it's bad when all the characters look stupid or appear to be unsympathetic and not even fun to watch.

I'm sorry, if it's happening, after all the gore and doom and gloom, do we really need anything like that on the show right NOW? Especially with Ashley and Sharon? I don't think so. These women need help and rest, not more angst and victimization.

Needless to say, I'm fed up with women constantly being victimized in different ways on this show. It's nasty and deeply misogynistic, and it NEVER stops. Almost every story has some trace of a woman that's been victimized.

Edited September 30, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Who the heck wants to watch this sh-t go on for years. This Adam/Ashley mess has been a big fail for months. I cringe at the thought of having to deal with this for years to come

The saddest thing is as horrible as it is at least it doesn't have anything to do with fenced art or floating chipmunk heads.

The saddest thing is as horrible as it is at least it doesn't have anything to do with fenced art or floating chipmunk heads.

LOL!

God, this show is a trainwreck, and no one cares enough to save it, instead they all think they're writing Greek tragedy.

God, how incredibly stupid and contrived was it to have Ashely and Sharon go into "labor" at the same time? Is Megan McTavish ghostwriting this sh!t?

Since Ashley has no fetus in her, how will she know she delivered anything if her body shows no signs of it?

Nothing about this show is natural, it's forced, bland, generic, agenda-driven, pushed, hollow, and obvious. There's no element of surprise or suspense. This is what's supposed to be a good set up? To each their own, I guess...

Oh, and whitewashing of Victor's actions and gagworthy dialogue continues on tomorrow's show with this bullsh!t:

Tracy says Victor took the bullets meant for Jack, and maybe it will make him a better person.

Edited September 30, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

First "Out of the Ashes".

Then "Sudden Impact".

Now, "Change of Heart".

Why didn't they at least promote this big? Traci, though, continues to astound. She plays that natural turn-on/turn-off of tears beautifully.

First "Out of the Ashes".

Then "Sudden Impact".

Now, "Change of Heart".

Don't forget the ice storm that changed everything!