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1 hour ago, Spoon said:

Least favorite characters by decade

30s: Ned Holden, Charles Cunningham

40s: Julie Collins, Ted White

50s: Bert Bauer, Laura Grant

60s: Ed Bauer, Ben Scott

70s: Charlotte Waring, Stanley Norris

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52 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Hawk and Sarah owned Company? I wondered if they owned it or if they just managed it? Only relatively sporadic episodes of that era on YT.

So Company ownership

Tony Reardon as Wired For Sound

Bea Reardon/Reardon Family

Hawk and Sarah Shayne

Reardon Family

Buzz Cooper

Lizzie Spaulding (Lizzie and Company)

Then I think it gets sold or given back to the Coopers?

Company and Wired for Sound were two completely separate entities. Company was built on to the Reardon boarding house.

Wired for Sound was a disco that Vanessa and Trish owned and Tony managed. (I'm not sure if it was physically connected to The Copper Kettle, a restaurant that Barbara Norris opened. Andy Norris was blackmailing people to keep it open. When Andy went off to jail, Trish got it in the divorce settlement. Vanessa invested in it, mostly because at the time she was a bored socialite who flitted from project to project with grand ideas for everything. Oh, and she was Trish's friend.)

The Reardons still owned it when Johnny Bauer's parents came to town. They managed it briefly. Maureen would occasionally mention having to deal with it.

I'm not sure if Maureen sold it to Hawk and Sarah, or if at some point, Bridget assumed the responsibility.

I'm also not sure Buzz ever owned Company. If he did, it would've been after Nola and Bridget left in '97-ish. I assumed at some point, the Cooper diner got a massive upgrade. Towards the end of the show, Buzz runs for mayor because Bill is going to raze the precious Diner.

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11 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Company and Wired for Sound were two completely separate entities. Company was built on to the Reardon boarding house.

Wired for Sound was a disco that Vanessa and Trish owned and Tony managed. (I'm not sure if it was physically connected to The Copper Kettle, a restaurant that Barbara Norris opened. Andy Norris was blackmailing people to keep it open. When Andy went off to jail, Trish got it in the divorce settlement. Vanessa invested in it, mostly because at the time she was a bored socialite who flitted from project to project with grand ideas for everything. Oh, and she was Trish's friend.)

The Reardons still owned it when Johnny Bauer's parents came to town. They managed it briefly. Maureen would occasionally mention having to deal with it.

I'm not sure if Maureen sold it to Hawk and Sarah, or if at some point, Bridget assumed the responsibility.

I'm also not sure Buzz ever owned Company. If he did, it would've been after Nola and Bridget left in '97-ish. I assumed at some point, the Cooper diner got a massive upgrade. Towards the end of the show, Buzz runs for mayor because Bill is going to raze the precious Diner.

Maureen must have kept ownership as I remember Ed giving Bridget the deed to Company for her birthday/to show he was proud of her at some point. Maybe Hawk/Sarah just ran it?

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20 minutes ago, GL95 said:

Maureen must have kept ownership as I remember Ed giving Bridget the deed to Company for her birthday/to show he was proud of her at some point. Maybe Hawk/Sarah just ran it?

I think Tony was still the owner for quite some time after he left town. Kurt also ran Company for a while. (He even ran the boarding house the first time Bea left town to help Tony and Anabelle with their kid). Maybe he gave it to Mo at some point. I don't recall that ever being discussed.

Honestly, with all the writer changes over the years it, the ownership of Company probably depended on who the head writer was at any given time. I think Hawk and Sarah only ran the place. Where would they have gotten the money to buy it? I wouldn't give Hawk a mortgage. Unless HB or Alan or some other Reva admirer gave them the money.

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Well, Josh could've bought it for Hawk and Sarah. But I think you're right, I think they only ran it.

Whether Mo owned it, or simply was the only Reardon left in town at the time to deal with it---I'm not sure. When Kurt worked there, Bea was still in town, because there's an entire plot point built around her running interference while Kurt and Roxy are trying to outsmart Immigration and see Mindy and Rick on the side. Mindy and Rick move into the boardinghouse's only available room.

There's also a kind of running joke once the Reardons start dwindling in town, where random people end up serving at Company. Mindy works there, there's an episode where Henry helps out, Jessie is left in charge while an unexpected crowd rolls in, etc.

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9 hours ago, Speed Racer said:

So, the ever condescending, the ever sanctimonious Mike Bauer was a rapist, eh? Figures.

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

Look, I totally understand that marital rape was not uncommon on soaps back in the day. So was romanticizing it (coughBillandLauraonDOOLcough). General Hospital did not invent that. So you kind of have to look at that in the context of the times. That's one of the reasons Roger and Holly's rape story was such a big deal. I don't think they ever dealt with marital rape in that way before (mainly because it had only recently been criminalized).

I'm guessing the Dobsons and Marland were completely unaware of this part of Mike's past. I think Bridget Dobson even admitted they knew very little about the show's history (i.e. they gave Jackie the maiden name Scott, even though Peggy's maiden name was Scott, which made viewers think they were related). All the Bauers had pretty troubled pasts. By the late 70s they became close to sterling citizens. Which is kind of sad in a way because, personally, I prefer gray characters. Certainly, much more than the self-righteous d!ck Mike became during the Marland years.

3 hours ago, Spoon said:

Least favorite characters by decade

70s

Alan (before he became involved with Hope and was being blackmailed by Roger, I hated him. I thought Elizabeth should have shot him), Hillary (even before SHE became self-righteous under Marland; the character never clicked for me), Greg Fairbanks (Rita's possible baby daddy--guy literally had one job and then became irrelevant).

80s

Mike, Kelly, Bradley (yeah, I know we were supposed to hate him, but he literally made my skin crawl), Jennifer, Mark, Carrie, all the faux Bauers, Maeve, Calla, Meredith, Rusty.

90s

Neil Everest, Mallet, Buzz, J., Amanda, Ben Warren, Alan, and I honestly had no use for Ed by this point.

2000s

Jeffrey 🤢, Jonathan, Olivia, and I strongly object to what they did to Beth.

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how about this for laughs..

bring on Ellen Parker as Jeffrey O'Neil's mother who is a doppelganger for Maureen. She's the opposite of Maureen of course and chain smokes and is a former prostitute who Buzz had a fling with, thus fathering Jeffrey. Ava and Marina would both be recast and be in a triangle with a returning Dr. Peter Reardon.

I remember there was speculation/fear that they were going to force Jeffrey onto the Bauer family tree. TPTB were so desperate to make the audience accept him. They should've just cut their losses. Bradley Cole was way better as Jeffrey, possibly even good but there was just WAY too much propping.

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Also, how did they NOT pair Alan with Carmen. I mean, I hated them both, but they were both despicable characters played as over the top, mustache twirling, one-dimensional cartoon villains.

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