11 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

When Edmund stole Michelle's baby and handed her to Cassie, who didn't know Dinah miscarried the baby she carried for them, Cassie named her Hope, I forget the explanation but it was along the lines of her being a miracle baby.

I'm sorry I asked. 😂

DINAH carried a baby for CASSIE? (Edmund stealing a baby, OTOH, sounds totally believable).

Those later years were a thing and a half. 😂

51 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

I'm sorry I asked. 😂

DINAH carried a baby for CASSIE? (Edmund stealing a baby, OTOH, sounds totally believable).

Those later years were a thing and a half. 😂

I remember that was Jerry ver Dorn/Ross's final episode on GL, when Dinah turned herself in with the baby on a Friday. He wore a mustache those final few weeks. Michelle decided to keep the name Hope since it was a family name. Michelle, should've named the baby Bebe /jk.

Of course Michelle was originally named Berta after Bert (Bebe for short). Speaking of names A.J. Chamberlain (after nola's brothers Tony and Jim), Leah Bauer (after Rick's mother Leslie and Melisandre's mother Felicia). Phillip and Harley's son was initialy named Alan Jr after his heart attack but once he was better they called him Zach.

Edited February 23Feb 23 by Spoon

46 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Of course Michelle was originally named Berta after Bert (Bebe for short). Speaking of names A.J. Chamberlain (after nola's brothers Tony and Jim), Leah Bauer (after Rick's mother Leslie and Melisandre's mother Felicia). Phillip and Harley's son was initialy named Alan Jr after his heart attack but once he was better they called him Zach.

This is something I've never understood. Why did almost EVERY baby have to be named after someone?

You left out Marah (named after Josh's mother Martha and Reva's mother Sarah). Shayne I don't mind so much because using the mother's maiden name is kind of cool.

You end up with a lot of kids who have to be renamed (Stacy, Michelle, J., Zach) or with clunky names (Alan Michael, R.J.) and repeat names (Billy, Bill, Will). And when Beth and Rick thought her kid was Rick's, they picked Bernadette as an alternative to Bert. WHY? Again, they end up renaming her.

I liked when Billy chose the name Peter--because he liked what the name meant. You know, like a NORMAL person naming their kid.

3 hours ago, Spoon said:

Of course Michelle was originally named Berta after Bert (Bebe for short). Speaking of names A.J. Chamberlain (after nola's brothers Tony and Jim), Leah Bauer (after Rick's mother Leslie and Melisandre's mother Felicia). Phillip and Harley's son was initialy named Alan Jr after his heart attack but once he was better they called him Zach.

Hey there! Actually, she was named Berta Bauer Ramsey, thus B.B. (not Bebe) for short. Thank God this was only for a very short while and the writers realized what a mistake every angle of her name was. Michelle Bauer was MUCH better!

Edited February 23Feb 23 by Reverend Ruthledge

2 hours ago, DeeVee said:

This is something I've never understood. Why did almost EVERY baby have to be named after someone?

You left out Marah (named after Josh's mother Martha and Reva's mother Sarah). Shayne I don't mind so much because using the mother's maiden name is kind of cool.

You end up with a lot of kids who have to be renamed (Stacy, Michelle, J., Zach) or with clunky names (Alan Michael, R.J.) and repeat names (Billy, Bill, Will). And when Beth and Rick thought her kid was Rick's, they picked Bernadette as an alternative to Bert. WHY? Again, they end up renaming her.

I liked when Billy chose the name Peter--because he liked what the name meant. You know, like a NORMAL person naming their kid.

Well, Billy may have picked that name, but it was Hart's true first name. It was one of those "noncoincidence coincidences". And Hart had been named after his grandfather, Peter.

I don't know why it's so prevalent on GL. I understand Billy wanting his son named after him and his father. Sometimes (like with Stacey), it's a manipulation. Sometimes it's a nod to the audience, like Vanessa naming her kid Maureen, or Jenna with Henry (Coop). But sometimes it just feels like the writing regime du jour didn't want to offend anyone. (like OH, we know history---we're trying to name the kid after Bert.)

4 hours ago, DeeVee said:

I'm sorry I asked. 😂

DINAH carried a baby for CASSIE? (Edmund stealing a baby, OTOH, sounds totally believable).

Those later years were a thing and a half. 😂

Oh, yeah. And when Ross and Vanessa tried warning Cassie that Dinah wasn't stable enough to be a responsible surrogate, she got on her high horse about it. (I guess Princesses really can stomp their feet and get their way...RME)

18 hours ago, Spoon said:

I thought Vanessa had decent mother/son chemistry with Daniel Cosgrove's Billy. I remember when she came to town with him for Jeva's 2002 wedding at the newly opened Beacon Hotel.

I do love me some Danny Cosgrove. Thank goodness he rescued the role. I think part of the reason they kept Bill around was the less than stellar Shaynes that were cast.

5 hours ago, DeeVee said:

There were so many young characters, already existing or "sudden" they could have brought in:

Stacy Chamberlain

but how many of those kids would the audience connect to? And who (assuming they'd be around 16 at the time) has some kind of relative in town to supervise them? Do you really want to stick Ross in a third "some one's got to raise this kid" story? (or fourth, if you count how he was essentially Phillip's father figure for a number of years) Was Holly ever truly stable enough to raise a child? Giving Lujack a child would've been interesting, but a teen Spaulding?

I do love the idea of bringing Stacey. She should've come back with Nola. If there was one legacy kid who should've been a slamdunk to impact Springfield, it's Stacey.

1 minute ago, P.J. said:

Well, Billy may have picked that name, but it was Hart's true first name. It was one of those "noncoincidence coincidences". And Hart had been named after his grandfather, Peter.

Now I am disillusioned, LOL.

2 minutes ago, P.J. said:

(like OH, we know history---we're trying to name the kid after Bert.)

And it never worked. Never ocurred to anyone to invent a middle name for Bert that was more trendy. "Hey, did you know Bert's middle name was Sophia? How's that for a cute name for the baby?"

6 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Do you really want to stick Ross in a third "some one's got to raise this kid" story? (or fourth, if you count how he was essentially Phillip's father figure for a number of years)

In THAT case--bring back a divorced (and recast) Lainie. Who would maybe confess to Ed that she had wee crush on him back in the day...

There are workarounds.

7 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Was Holly ever truly stable enough to raise a child?

She raised Blake.

Yeah, I know, but if we're going by that criteria, NO ONE on the show was stable enough to raise a child. Heck, I wouldn't give Beth a puppy to raise.

Here's a workaround: she didn't raise them but now their mother is dead and Deitrich is hitting town, maybe looking to reconnect with Holly. We did say in the past bringing in Deitrich had loads of story possibilities.

18 hours ago, Spoon said:

The silver lining of the final year of GL is that we got Vanessa, Phillip and **** back on contract and full time. Also, they hit a home run with the final Shayne (Jeff Branson?) -- too bad it wasn't sooner. Billy taking Lizzie under his wing as her business mentor, ER had a similarity to the first Mindy so that was a nice callback.

Well....Van was back, but not full time. I sure didn't need ****, sorry. But he's kind of inoffensive enough, considering.

And the Billy/Lizzie friendship worked on so many levels. It made Lizzie likeable as far as I'm concerned. It gives Billy an outlet for all his protectiveness. And you can tell he's trying to fix his own past in a way.

..and James Spaulding after his "father" Jim Lemay. The names that weren't after other characters could be random like Peyton Spaulding.

2 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

Now I am disillusioned, LOL.

She raised Blake.

I'm amazed it was Billy who picked the name. I guess I assumed it was something Bridget suggested to Nadine.

And, really....how did that work out?

I know there would've been several workarounds for anyone (hey...did you know X really knew Y back in the day and X is (insert Child Z) godfather/godmother? But is there ever a writing regime that impressed you with their creativity after Curlee? Not if Susan/Daisy's introduction is any example.

Edited February 24Feb 24 by P.J.

1 minute ago, P.J. said:

I'm amazed it was Billy who picked the name. I guess I assumed it was something Bridget suggested to Nadine.

I remember that scene really well. He referred to the Biblical Peter, and how his name meant "rock." He wanted Peter to be strong.

I thought that was a lovely scene and perfectly appropriate to the character. While the Lewises never talked much about religion, you could imagine they all took Biblical studies. (Didn't Josh end up a minister by the end of the show, or am I dreaming that one?)

5 minutes ago, P.J. said:

But is there ever a writing regime that impressed you with their creativity after Curlee?

I wouldn't expect any of them to know the history that well. Hey, but we can dream.

1 minute ago, DeeVee said:

I remember that scene really well. He referred to the Biblical Peter, and how his name meant "rock." He wanted Peter to be strong.

I thought that was a lovely scene and perfectly appropriate to the character. While the Lewises never talked much about religion, you could imagine they all took Biblical studies. (Didn't Josh end up a minister by the end of the show, or am I dreaming that one?)

I wouldn't expect any of them to know the history that well. Hey, but we can dream.

No, you are not dreaming Josh becoming a preacher for like five seconds before he's tired of listening to people's problems. Oh, and there was something about Cassie's actions that played into him moving on. Gee....wife number *5 (I think, I'm blanking on whether or not he and Annie were legally married), the ex-stripper and ex-Princess, and wife #2's sister, pissed people off somehow. Who'd a thunk it?

BILLY WAS AWESOME. :) At times, the way he'd talk people into things, he came off like a tent revival preacher himself.

Edited February 24Feb 24 by P.J.

3 hours ago, Spoon said:

..and James Spaulding after his "father" Jim Lemay. The names that weren't after other characters could be random like Peyton Spaulding.

And Lizzie named after Beth...or was she named after Phillip's mom Elizabeth? I don't recall if they specified.

Random kid names like Harley and Rick's kid Jude. I remember the scene where he was named. Harley was talking about how she couldn't decide, so Gus asked her what her favorite song was. She said, "Hey, Jude." Decided.

Babies who didn't seem to have been named after anyone, or at least I don't remember anyone saying they were: Ben (was he Sampson or Reade?), Marina Cooper, Daisy/Susan Lemay, Samantha Marler, Kevin and Jason Marler (hey, the Marlers went against the tide, LOL), though Ross and Blake's daughter was named after a character in Blake's romance novels. Phillip and Olivia's kid Emma? Or was she named after someone?

Anyhoo, it's a fairly short list.

9 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

And Lizzie named after Beth...or was she named after Phillip's mom Elizabeth? I don't recall if they specified.

Random kid names like Harley and Rick's kid Jude. I remember the scene where he was named. Harley was talking about how she couldn't decide, so Gus asked her what her favorite song was. She said, "Hey, Jude." Decided.

Babies who didn't seem to have been named after anyone, or at least I don't remember anyone saying they were: Ben (was he Sampson or Reade?), Marina Cooper, Daisy/Susan Lemay, Samantha Marler, Kevin and Jason Marler (hey, the Marlers went against the tide, LOL), though Ross and Blake's daughter was named after a character in Blake's romance novels. Phillip and Olivia's kid Emma? Or was she named after someone?

Anyhoo, it's a fairly short list.

Pretty sure Lizzie was named after Beth. Why? SMH.

Ben's original last name was Stoddard. I don't think Fletch adopted him until after Maeve's death.

I think Marina was named after Eleni's grandmother. Daisy was for the flowers that Dylan gave Harley. Ross and Blake's daughter was Clarissa. (which is a horrible name, sorry.) Oh, and lets' not forget Rocky Cooper. Even though every one else did. Not sure where Olivia got Emma from. And Francesca, for the sperm donor.

31 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Oh, and lets' not forget Rocky Cooper. Even though every one else did.

Wasn't Rocky just a nickname? I think his legal name was Ian.

3 minutes ago, Kane said:

Wasn't Rocky just a nickname? I think his legal name was Ian.

I could vaguely remember something like that. At least "Little Billy" had some dignity. :)