This is what I saw posted courtesy of Lskreet on another board. I have very graciously been granted permission to post them here.

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1. Y&R 3.5 (+.1)

2. B&B 2.3 (same)

3. DOOL 2.1 (+.1)

4. OLTL 1.8 (same) <---ties low

5. AMC 1.7 (-.1) <---new low

5. GH 1.7 (-.1) <---new low

7. ATWT 1.6 <---ties low

8. GL 1.4 (+.1)

Amazing. Who would've thought 10 years ago that AMC and GH would hit lows that OLTL has never reached. Based on the HH numbers, I would guess that OLTL at least tied GH in the 18-49 demos, and might've even finally passed it by a 0.1. Can't wait to see all the numbers.

I'd call ABC a trainwreck but that's not fair to trains. It's more like the business equivalent of Mark Sanford, a non-stop, babbling mess that should be put out of its misery.

As usual, I'll post the ratings when I get them.

Hey! I was just trying to give you the pass. I'm sure the lofty salary you're paid for bringing us the ratings when no other site does is compensation for all the bitching that happens when we don't get them when we want them. LOL.

Amazing. Who would've thought 10 years ago that AMC and GH would hit lows that OLTL has never reached. Based on the HH numbers, I would guess that OLTL at least tied GH in the 18-49 demos, and might've even finally passed it by a 0.1. Can't wait to see all the numbers.

So AMC and GH are nosediving faster than OLTL. Faint praise.

I'd call ABC a trainwreck but that's not fair to trains. It's more like the business equivalent of Mark Sanford, a non-stop, babbling mess that should be put out of its misery.

LOL

I havent seen AMC in a while so cant comment on that show. I have seen bits and pieces of GH. OLTL...I have been watching and find it just awful so it being the top soap on ABC is shocking/surprising.

ABC collapsing. I'll be interested in GH's demos. ABC soaps are quickly reaching the end of the line. It is shocking. I used to think that GH had a good more 5 years.

I'd call ABC a trainwreck but that's not fair to trains. It's more like the business equivalent of Mark Sanford, a non-stop, babbling mess that should be put out of its misery.

LOL!

So AMC and GH are nosediving faster than OLTL. Faint praise.

LOL the hilarious part is the two people who ruined GH have now ruined each respective show all on their own.

I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

Hey! I was just trying to give you the pass. I'm sure the lofty salary you're paid for bringing us the ratings when no other site does is compensation for all the bitching that happens when we don't get them when we want them. LOL.

So AMC and GH are nosediving faster than OLTL. Faint praise.

LOL. True....but still shocking. GH and AMC were far ahead of OLTL 10+ years ago....and now....they've fallen to lows OLTL has never hit.

BTW, I checked the SoapNet data I have and was surprised to see that AMC and OLTL are not the number one and two shows on SN in women 18-49, as I thought. Instead, they're 2nd and 3rd. Y&R, which airs from 7-8 EST, is number one. (Not sure why they didn't acknowledge Y&R in the press release, except maybe because it's not an ABC-owned show).

Edited July 4, 200916 yr by Carolyn1980

LOL

I havent seen AMC in a while so cant comment on that show. I have seen bits and pieces of GH. OLTL...I have been watching and find it just awful so it being the top soap on ABC is shocking/surprising.

I don't think of it as OLTL being the top soap but that the others just happen to be lower. The whole line up sucks. The fact that OLTL sucks slightly less this week is hardly cause for music and feasting. JMHO.

LOL

I havent seen AMC in a while so cant comment on that show. I have seen bits and pieces of GH. OLTL...I have been watching and find it just awful so it being the top soap on ABC is shocking/surprising.

OLTL isn't great (which still makes it better than most of the other soaps I guess), but has some good moments, a few good couples, and they have a lot of hot guys who don't mind taking their shirts off. Dorian is always good, the show is more racially diverse now, and Fish/Kyle is good so far. The show is very unfocused and the main leading men are horrible, but there are good elements on the fringes. It's too bad Todd, John, and Stacy/Rex/Gigi take so much attention.

AMC is a mess, it's very schizophrenic, and GH just seems to find new ways to offend viewers.

Considering OLTL is the only soap at ABC which keeps on budget and now their best rated soap, Frons must be crapping bricks. After $3 million to make GH into HD, and for what.

Edited July 4, 200916 yr by CarlD2

I don't think of it as OLTL being the top soap but that the others just happen to be lower. The whole line up sucks. The fact that OLTL sucks slightly less this week is hardly cause for music and feasting. JMHO.

I am only watching OLTL for the Fish/Kyle story. Having Rex and Gigi front and center on OLTL is not a good idea. IMO

I wonder if ABC soaps have a ratings cut off point like GL did to keep from being cancelled? Cause they're starting to venture into GL territory.

I like what someone said, it's not the medium that's in trouble, it's the people in charge of it. I agree, cause look at Days, it was written off and rebounded in a way that surprised everyone

Aaaaahhhhahahahahahahah. Oh, people, your bitter tears nourish my dark lifeforce. I drink them in a goblet like wine.

OLTL isn't great (which still makes it better than most of the other soaps I guess), but has some good moments, a few good couples, and they have a lot of hot guys who don't mind taking their shirts off. Dorian is always good, the show is more racially diverse now, and Fish/Kyle is good so far. The show is very unfocused and the main leading men are horrible, but there are good elements on the fringes. It's too bad Todd, John, and Stacy/Rex/Gigi take so much attention.

AMC is a mess, it's very schizophrenic, and GH just seems to find new ways to offend viewers.

Considering OLTL is the only soap at ABC which keeps on budget and now their best rated soap, Forms must be crapping bricks. After $3 million to make GH into HD, and for what.

I like Todd/TSJ and FL. I dont care for John or the stupid Stacy/Rex/Gigi triangle. IMO they are all sucky actors. So there is not much that I currently like about the show. I read the spoiler about Erica and Ryan. That was enough for me not to tune in to AMC anymore.

GH has always been about Sonny or Luke...neither appeals to me. So I dont watch it regularly.

I wonder if ABC soaps have a ratings cut off point like GL did to keep from being cancelled? Cause they're starting to venture into GL territory.

I like what someone said, it's not the medium that's in trouble, it's the people in charge of it. I agree, cause look at Days, it was written off and rebounded in a way that surprised everyone

Well I REALLY want to know what it will take to get rid of Frons because right now it looks like he could be deep frying puppies on a stick, snorting coke off of babies and urinating on a picture of Mother Teresa while wearing an "I Heart Al-Queda" t-shirt and they still wouldn't get rid of him.

Oh, don't get me wrong. OLTL is largely a shitpile right now. Especially in the last month or so, when suddenly it became ALL Rex/Gigi/Stacy/Starr/Cole ALL the time. It's the most disorganized I've seen it under RC, or maybe anyone. I don't think that's all on the writers - it's not the type of show he ran last year or in 07 - but I also think Carlivati is perfectly capable of making his own huge horrible mistakes. Still, even at its worst right now, OLTL still has a few elements that work, a few things I want to watch, which is more than I can say for AMC and GH. This must be a nightmare for Frons, who has never respected OLTL's creative renaissance and who apparently did his best to drown it, though the show helped.