Cooper, Walton & Cast are awesome.

They're so good they don't even need dialogue.

Yani seems hesitant which is mainly TPTB's fault for not giving Rafe enough to do before now.

That hair has to go though.

Yes, Dee Dee, hesitant is the perfect word for it. I liked his hair when he first came on. I know it made him look young, but so what! I also wondered if some of that scene was offscreen tension bleeding over.

SO. BAD.

I really don't understand WHY they do that to him. He has great hair in the non-Y&R pics I've seen. I know theyr'e worried he'll seem too young, but there is a middle ground between Mad Men and Grunge Model.

Yes!

His hair was fine now he looks like Brad Renfro.

They really need to keep Mac and Billy apart, I've never seen two actors as chemistry-less with this "destiny-type" writing as these two. Those scenes at the Crimson Lights today were so flat and forced. It's time Billy and Mac got over their first loves, or just recast Mac with someone who has better chemistry with Billy Miller. I don't think Clem is as bad as some do, and I think she's playing the part as written, but if they intend to go though with this Mac/Billy thing, she's got to go.

Are you kidding me? Cane has Phillip's blood just sitting whenever he has DNA tests done? WTF...

I could have sworn when they did the DNA test for the baby, we saw them do a mouth swab and not a blood test. Anyone else remember that?

I could have sworn when they did the DNA test for the baby, we saw them do a mouth swab and not a blood test. Anyone else remember that?

You could be right, I don't remember any blood tests being done, but maybe I'm wrong too.

I also wondered if some of that scene was offscreen tension bleeding over.

It could have.

There was no way that scene shoulda been as choppy as it was especially compared to Cooper, Walton & Cast.

Boy do I love seeing Victor just lost! With Victor's ego, wouldn't he think that his son could be just as ruthless and cunningly intelligent as he is? LOL!

I guess I'll never get my telenovolla moment from Estella. Although from what I hear, when they shot these scenes it was beyond intense with Engen being a KING-douche to everyone.

Definitely looks like Kay is in on everything. She has zero emotion. Jill and Nina are going crazy and she's talking about stolen corpses like Sunday tea. Why does it always have to be that Kay is the culprit?? But it makes sense I guess. it just makes Kay look even more horrible. Perhaps she made up the "switch" and it never really happened?

Boy do I love seeing Victor just lost! With Victor's ego, wouldn't he think that his son could be just as ruthless and cunningly intelligent as he is? LOL!

I'm totally with you on this one, Cashton. Uncharacteristic though some might think it is, it's highly entertaining to watch Victor not know his ass from his elbow right now.

Plus, Victor won't give a damn about "who the gaslighter is" once he finds out his unborn child is dead. All these hoops Adam is jumping through won't mean SQUAT.

This version of Mac is as crappy as the other ones. I hate how CF played her today. And the dialogue/plot didn't help either. Mac wouldn't give a damn about dancing. She'd go like, 'i can't dance, so what?'. I know, it's a small detail, but it tells you a lot. I also hate that these characters are trapped in their isolated storylines. Maybe the reason why we cannot see the love between Billy & Mac is that they have no personality beside their highschool memories and their current triangle with Chloe. It would probably be different if we could see Mac interacting with Kay, Jill and Nina about this P3 debacle. And the same goes for Billy. It's his brother we're talking about. The one he never met. If we could see these layers to their personalities maybe we could accept their supposed 'love'.

I guess I'll never get my telenovolla moment from Estella. Although from what I hear, when they shot these scenes it was beyond intense with Engen being a KING-douche to everyone.

Where did you hear it?

I don't think Kay knows anything. But I know what you guys mean. Heck, as far as I am concerned, she didn't look shocked on Phillip's deathbed either! Actually, both she and JW weren't at their best in that scene IMHO.

I love Estella, I hope she'll be around.

I don't know; I'm catching up with the episodes of the previous two weeks and they are not half as bad as I thought they would be. All these comments about how it sucks prepared me for the worst, and it actually ended up being okay (not good, but okay).

I know what you mean. I used this three day weekend to catch up on Y&R. Now I only have last week to see. But seeing all the YR hate made me wonder what happened that was so bad. And I keep watching and I am still very much entertained.

Sure, I hate the Devon storyline and the art storyline isn't the best (although, as bad as it is, I kinda have no clue where they will take it from here, so I'm KINDA excited about it... It's still pretty bad, because it's full of holes).

But I still love my Y&R. And I just ADORE Engen as Adam and I am so sad that he's leaving. I LOVE MJB! I don't mind all the crazies.

I agree that Ford and Miller have no chem, so as much as I loved Billy and Mac, I would totally be fine if they don't go there.

I know what you mean. I used this three day weekend to catch up on Y&R. Now I only have last week to see. But seeing all the YR hate made me wonder what happened that was so bad. And I keep watching and I am still very much entertained.

Sure, I hate the Devon storyline and the art storyline isn't the best (although, as bad as it is, I kinda have no clue where they will take it from here, so I'm KINDA excited about it... It's still pretty bad, because it's full of holes).

But I still love my Y&R. And I just ADORE Engen as Adam and I am so sad that he's leaving. I LOVE MJB! I don't mind all the crazies.

I agree that Ford and Miller have no chem, so as much as I loved Billy and Mac, I would totally be fine if they don't go there.

ITA. I know the show has its bad sides, but it still hasn't reached a point where I don't want to watch. It's all still tolerable with me.

QUOTE (Cashton @ Jun 22 2009, 02:36 PM) Boy do I love seeing Victor just lost! With Victor's ego, wouldn't he think that his son could be just as ruthless and cunningly intelligent as he is? LOL!

I'm totally with you on this one, Cashton. Uncharacteristic though some might think it is, it's highly entertaining to watch Victor not know his ass from his elbow right now.

Plus, Victor won't give a damn about "who the gaslighter is" once he finds out his unborn child is dead. All these hoops Adam is jumping through won't mean SQUAT.

Unless Mary Jane and Adam arrange to quietly provide him with Sharon's living unborn child. Then TGVN need never know... (Yes, I'm still channeling this, though I know it will never happen).

ETA: ANTI-BRITTANY HODGES VOTE! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited June 22, 200916 yr by MarkH

What the hell?? Where's my avatar? I want my RPatz back!!

ETA: oooooh, they've updated the site so that it's mobile friendly!!! Now it won't take 20 minutes for the page to load. Nice!!!

Edited June 22, 200916 yr by rhythmchyc

What the hell?? Where's my avatar? I want my RPatz back!!

I see your RPatz.

What does Adam mean, "And So It Begins"? (said in a most lackluster way)

ETA: Kay's pink top reminds me of what Alphanguy74 calls "Chiffon Drinking Gown"

Edited June 22, 200916 yr by MarkH