Members cara mia Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 Cashton, I like your theory but I guess my problem is that Y&R seems to be heading into "ABC" direction. Too violent, too dark, etc. If Victor did indeed kill Walter Palin, that should be a huge beat. Sonny Corinthos has killed more folks than we can count but he's an ABC cartoon. If Victor is a murderer, that needs to mean something on Y&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 If that spoiler about Victor is true, then it is Sheffer at work. Sheffer has never known where to draw the line. He did it with Marshall Travers and then Craig on ATWT. Y&R is turning into every other soap which is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 With all these characters going insane, returns from the dead and the DNA madness Y&R is indeed turning into every other soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 I get what you're saying. but i'm a Buffy fan - and in that universe, if you kill someone it changes you forever. If Victor did kill Walter, he's not becoming dark, he is dark. The reprecussions for Victor will be harsh and severe, too. But Jack really got Victor good and i guess I just see the dots lining up for Victor to just want to END this once and for all. Also, the character of Victor has always been so invincible. The writers always have such a hard time creating realisitc struggles for him cause of his extreme power. hence he gets arrested every year and gets mugged or shot. This gives him a fight with the only person capable of truly destroying him - himself. But guess we'll have to tune in - Cara Mia! BTW - you are definitely my fav new poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 No matter what happens, Victor always wins. If he loses a woman, he replaces her and we are sure to see the woman he lost is still in love with him (if she isn't dead). When someone does get the best of Victor, they pay the price in the end. They never stray from Victor being all-powerful, because even when he's at a low point, they let us know the people who are scheming against him are not going to win (like the silly story with Jack, Adam, and the forged diaries). I don't know if they will ever be able to change the formula. In previous years this didn't matter as much because the characters around him were strong and complicated in their own right, but now most of them have no true identity outside of Victor, and they have no backbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cara mia Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 That's deep! And very Shakesperean. Whenever Eric Braeden decides to leave Y&R for good, I think Victor should go out in some grand tragic fashion that he brings upon himself. Maybe even something out of Lear, where he does something that kills Abby or Victoria and his own death follows soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 If you think that's deep read my post on the scandal thread...i'm proud of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 It's the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Juliajms Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 I can believe that Victor would go there. Not only because of everything Jack has done to him over the years, but because of Jack pulling Adam into his latest attempt to bring Victor down. Jack was going to send Victor to prison for life! No way Victor would take that lying down. . This also gives me hope for Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 Ugh I really hate the word redeem in regards to characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cara mia Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 Me, too actually. I don't even think viewers care that much characters being redeemed. My main issue is that if Victor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadZoe Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 That was the entire Shick marriage, which many now seem to look fondly upon as having a steady foundation worth returning to and repeating again. Good for Phyllis to at least As for Sharon, I hate the character, and have no problems with the actress, unless the rumours are true that she doesn't want to french kiss on screen. She is certainly no Hunter Tylo who has made demands for the Taylor character's writing based on her idea of what the character be. SC seems to be able to separate herself from the character she plays which has allowed Sharonit to really come alive onscreen. I hope the writers continue to explore this character and why she behaves the way she does, not just sweep her problems under the rug and return to her and Nick, happily cheating ever-after. I haven't minded CE's Adam but am disappointed in his unprofessionalism. Did he see himself as the future of the Y&R? From the moment his character appeared on screen, he was pursuing his brothers wife and backstabbing everyone, how moral is that? Part of the casting process should be evaluating whether a person will play the role no matter what is being called upon for them to do, barring the risk of physical injury. I'm surprised Sharon wasn't at the Lame wedding. It would have been nice to see at least one white face in the Bride's section at the wedding. But one of my major problems with the writing is that all their characters are segregated into their own storyline grouping. We don't need to see Lily and Sharon constantly interacting but it would be nice if they wrote that they know each other and share Dru's loss. AF sucked on B&B. Keep her on Y&R where she is written as an aspiring somebody rather than a baby obsessed nobody like she was on B&B. At least now when the character indicates she'd like to be a mother, she's in the right age group for that biological clock to be going into high gear. While overall, I'm enjoying the Y&R, there is definitely much room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 Having Victor turns into a will simply destroy the character. As despicable as he is, he has never been and never will be that. Damn, he used to be a complicated character, now he's just a full-on comical relief villain. And then people are still claiming this show is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 :lol: So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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