Awesome 7-year old Thom Bierdz interview....

I only got half way through, but that was extremely disturbing. He's definitely been through a lot and he doesn't exactly sound stable.

I only got half way through, but that was extremely disturbing. He's definitely been through a lot and he doesn't exactly sound stable.

He went through a lot and that was 7 years ago he gave that interview. I think he is stable. Anyways the only unstable thing is that he is still friends with Brenda Dickson...LOL...well..most would say that isnt stable...LOL

He went through a lot and that was 7 years ago he gave that interview. I think he is stable. Anyways the only unstable thing is that he is still friends with Brenda Dickson...LOL...well..most would say that isnt stable...LOL

I'm not trying to tear the man down in anyway. He's been through a horrible tragedy and hopefully he's found a way to deal with everything that has happened.

At one stage,he changed his name to Zoey Drake!Sounds like a one way ticket to porn stardom.

The interview was revealing,to say the least. Hopefully,it's all in the past.

Re the show.

Victor's age should be referred to in light of the fact that he may not be there when his child is growing up and certainly would be in his 80's when the kid is a young adult.

It was refreshing when Katherine's age was given,but i doubt EB wants his or Victor's age shouted fronm the roof tops.

We get that Mac is a somber character,but the lethargy from Clem is way too much and too one note.Maybe she is not happy with the whole gig.

And Shick can always have their little girl down the road.

Bingo. They can have baby faith during one of their many reunions down the road. SC is still young enough to be able to have a child in a few years. I am not sure the show would give Shick their Cassie replacement from this story. Cassie's memory is such a dysfunctional part of why they are drawn to each other to a point of it being unpleasant. It's good soap but a three-way WTD is not how I see the replacement of Cassie going down. That's just me.

Thanks for bringing my post over from the last thread.

So, I totally agree.

To be fair, though Victor and Jack get younger chicks, this is not the norm on Y&R is it? I guess Paul and Christine was another example.

The "cougar" is all the rage now, but I don't think Stafford is a cougar. Stafford is 44 (my age) and Morrow is 35. Nine years. Big deal.

I agree that the claim that being with Nick makes her look "older" is SEXIST and AGEIST.

I would say that there have been many popular older woman-younger men tales over the years (Dorian-Joey, Donna-Matthew, Viki-Ben, recently Jackie-Owen). So I think TIIC are with the program, don't you?

Stafford is 43. She turns 44 in September.

Since I have never been a Nick and Sharon fan, the thought of another second of air time wasted on them makes me want to make sure I have fresh batteries for my remote. Personally I never saw the chemistry and electricity between Nick and Sharon that I have seen from Nick and Phyllis. Even during the hunt for Daniel, it was evident that there was something bubbling below the surface. As for this need of MAB to revisit all these "past loves", sorry but the past is the past, we had 13 years of Nick and Sharon, after Nick and Phyllis have been together for 13 years, then Sharon can have him back!

Making Sharon's child an Abbott would make tons of storylines in the future, most notebly Sharon who is the apple of Victor's eye being tied to the Abbot's through a child!!

OK, I'm going to stop bringing stuff over from the old thread, but I have to address this. Television is a visual media, so maybe they should stop pairing Victor with women who are 20-30 years his junior. Doesn't Sharon make Jack look old? Or is the idea that younger women make old men look young, but somehow younger men make women look old? The blatant sexism (not directing this at the person who posted because it's an issue in the genre/media itself) is unbelievable.

Soaps are still watched primarily by women and yet somehow the people who make them think we would rather watch old men sexing up women 20 or 30 years their junior. Think again IIC. I'm not a huge Phick fan, but watching a women get a guy who is (only) a few years her junior is way closer to any fantasy I'm interested in watching than watching Victor and Jack (or anyone else) do women their children's age. And if it makes her look older, so what? These types of couples are happening left and right in society. It's about time soaps get with the program.

It is totally sexist. I think we are supposed to go by the notion that women mature faster than men and should therefore only be interested in men their own age or older, never younger. Maybe it's because Sharon has always been portrayed as years older than Nick, but I never found Phyllis to be too old for him. She is stunningly hot, and at 30, I would love to look as good when I'm her age. Hell if they decided to pair Jill and Nick I would jump up and down for joy. Some of these mature dames on this show are increadibly hot and sexy, but still I wouldn't see it as anything more than a fun fling.

My problem with Victor is that he never sticks within his age group. The Sabrina character would have probably worked if she was written as a woman in her 50's or 60's but failed because she was his daughter's age and he was already an old goat when his daughter was conceived. Same thing with Neil and this notion that him being paired with a woman in his daughter's peer group is rootable. I know at my age the last thing I want is a man who's diapers I'd have to be changing in 5-10 years.

I also saw someone in last week's thread, saying that DG is too old to be Phillip. I thought it was the other way and he's too young since Cricket, Nina and the Gang would be in their mid-40's.

Edited May 17, 200916 yr by BadZoe

I agree re Victor,but you only have to look around to see much older(richer)men with younger women.

The old guys figure they've got the dough,so why not have a young babe by their side.

Bingo. They can have baby faith during one of their many reunions down the road. SC is still young enough to be able to have a child in a few years. I am not sure the show would give Shick their Cassie replacement from this story. Cassie's memory is such a dysfunctional part of why they are drawn to each other to a point of it being unpleasant. It's good soap but a three-way WTD is not how I see the replacement of Cassie going down. That's just me.

Thanks for bringing my post over from the last thread.

Stafford is 43. She turns 44 in September.

Baby Faith was just a figment of Nick's imagination. They can never "replace" Cassie, and they have a child that they don't spend enough time with anyhow. Why should they be given a another child to attempt to tie they together?? shouldn't Noah be enough to bring them together as a family??

As Cassie said to Sharon, "the little girl is already here.......it's Summer"

I am sure a lot of women including me would give anything to look as hot as Michelle Stafford does, and my husband agrees!!

Edited May 17, 200916 yr by marla0518

I liked Sharon and Nick before they bogged down in the "true love" cliche, when they were a young and very complicated couple. The current version of Nick and Sharon do nothing for me because Nick has treated her very poorly, he's used her, and somehow, we are supposed to root for them to be together, root for this child to be Nick's, because of this supposed fate of their relationship.

I would have been more drawn into them if they hadn't started having sex again, and if this wasn't about her sleeping around or being pregnant. I think the idea of Phyllis coming unglued because Nick wasn't having a sexual relationship with Sharon, but a purely emotional affair, would have been very compelling.

Since I have never been a Nick and Sharon fan, the thought of another second of air time wasted on them makes me want to make sure I have fresh batteries for my remote. Personally I never saw the chemistry and electricity between Nick and Sharon that I have seen from Nick and Phyllis. Even during the hunt for Daniel, it was evident that there was something bubbling below the surface. As for this need of MAB to revisit all these "past loves", sorry but the past is the past, we had 13 years of Nick and Sharon, after Nick and Phyllis have been together for 13 years, then Sharon can have him back!

Making Sharon's child an Abbott would make tons of storylines in the future, most notebly Sharon who is the apple of Victor's eye being tied to the Abbot's through a child!!

I don't want 13 years of Phyllis and Nick. Now freakin way. One of Shick's downfalls is that they were together too long without a break. They got old and stale because they were never allowed to be refreshed. I will gladly take a short break for Phick. I don't care for Sharon and Nick but many do. It's smart for them to be revisited. For those of us who don't like them, we'll just have to deal until our turn comes around again.

Re: Mac. CF looks like she wishes they would just go ahead and fire her. I agree we need to give her more time but I am not even pulling for Mac and Billy a little bit. There are too many other interesting women for Billy to be involved with. If we get rid of Mac or have her go bug JT that would open it up for Sharon to play spoiler for Chilly. I would love to see Phyllis and Chloe bonding over their Sharon hate. Pretty sure we will get that anyway when all the daddies other baby's mama's are notified. I cannot wait.

Edited May 17, 200916 yr by soapydoc

What has Phyllis gained from being paired with Nick? Nothing.

Phyllis should be with a more dynamic character, and sorry, there's nothing interesting and complex about Nick.

Nick watered Phyllis down to someone I didn't recognize anymore.

Edited May 17, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I don't think 3 years is long enough to tell the full story of Nick and Phyllis, considering Sharon as been in the middle of their marriage from day one! Two or three more years after this bump is over would suit me fine!!! I am just not ready for PHICK to end especially end because of Sharon.

as an older woman (52 tomorrow) married to a younger man (40 in August), sometimes it takes a younger man to keep up with an older woman, in all aspects! and trust me age is just a number!

I don't see this big age difference between Nick and Phyllis that some see, what I see with Nick and Phyllis is opposites do attract! they complete each other, she now has the family that she has always wanted and craved, and with Phyllis, Nick has a partner that stands behind him 100%, when Victor fired him she was the one that stood next to him and behind him and supported him in whatever he wanted to do.

Edited May 17, 200916 yr by marla0518

Y&R has too many age inappropriate couples. Sharon does make Jack look old. He should be a woman Mary Jane's age. Phyllis looks too old for Nick. Both Sabrina and Ashley make Victor look old as the hills. Lily makes Cane look like a cradle robber. Lily looks too young to be in a triangle with Billy and Chloe much less in a romance with Cane. Cane should have been paired with Sharon, not Lily. JT should have never been moved out of the younger set since Thad still looks in his 20s. He could have then been a possible love interest for Lily.

Does this mean that Y&R should not have an older woman/younger man romance? Of course not, but Y&R could do more with its couples if they were in the right age bracket. Also, it would cut down on the annoying two women/one men triangles. Soaps are viewed by mostly women. Two men fighting over a woman is far more thrilling than two women fighting over a man. Cane and Nick should be fighting over Sharon. Daniel and JT fighting over Lily and/or Amber. JT and Billy fighting over Chloe.

I agree re Victor,but you only have to look around to see much older(richer)men with younger women.

The old guys figure they've got the dough,so why not have a young babe by their side.

Yeah, but I'm not interested in watching Anna Nicole Smith's life play out on my soaps. That's a straight male fantasy. If I have to watch they should at least make clear the woman is a goldigger with a plan. But trying to sell me on the idea that a woman who looks like Sabrina is soooo in love with a man as old as Victor is just It wouldn't be if it were an occasional thing, but it happens all the time. As far as I'm concerned they can save that kind of straight male ego propping for porn. Just sayin'.