Members watson71 Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 The entire Thanksgiving 1988 episode was outstanding from start to finish. Ironically, this episode aired right after Harding Lemay quit as headwriter, and right before Donna Swajeski started as headwriter. I wonder if the writers were working off of one of Lemay's outlines. The episode ends with a montage to Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World." You would never see an episode like this on daytime today. When AW was on fire- there was nothing better on daytime- which made it all the worse in its last few years because of poor decisions made by TPTB. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 Speaking of 1988 AW, wasn't Lemay going to write a human trafficking storyline involving children but PGP backed out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 Awesome Harding Lemay Interview Part 4 answers your question http://www.welovesoaps.net/2010/01/wls-interview-archive-harding-lemay.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 "The thing with Iris and Mac and Rachel was a great incest story basically. And we never had to say it. They played it for all it was worth." Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zanereed Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 Correct - someone else pointed that out, too. I had serious memory block on that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 The above montage clip, when Carmen Duncan's Iris takes the seat next to Mac with baby Alli- it's clear as day there too IMO, which makes me think this came from a Lemay outline too. VW plays it in that scene as well, the look on her face when Iris does it just shows that her instinct is to go sit between them, but instead crosses to the window. Or am I reading too much into a scene with no words and only blocking? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members watson71 Posted June 19, 2017 Members Share Posted June 19, 2017 Absolutely, you are correct. The actors didn't need words to convey what they were thinking. Their actions spoke volumes with Mac and Iris playing with Alli in the background, while Rachel is looking out the terrace doors at the end of the episode. At this point, Rachel is doubting Iris' intentions in her return to Bay City. It will take months for Rachel to be proven correct when Iris is exposed as the chief of Bennett Publishing that tried to take over Cory Publishing. The confrontation between Mac and Iris is one of Douglass Watson's last episodes on the show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Soaplovers Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 What confuses me is that I heard Donna Swajeski wrote the shoe during the strike in 1988 (which I hear was disjointed/uneven)...so I'm confused why NBC/P & G allowed her to stay on the writing team? Also, lemay seems pigheaded and stubborn...and I think he wouldn't have worked long term had he remained in 1988..unless he shortened the scenes a bit..and varied the conversations so they wouldn't the same thing day in, day out. Though at least his conversations were more realistic sounding then a lot of Marland's were. In my view, the Red swan seems like a Swajeski idea..and it d idnt seem to work..other then helping to bond Rachel/Iris. I do think Swajeski helped evolve Iris in a way that I don't think Lemay would have..imho. Plus, she created Lorna and had her be Felicia's daughter...a genius move..imho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 She also penned the Jamie/Vicky/Jake/Marley mess, though they should have had Steven be Jake's baby. IMO, her writing is what brought Anne Heche to life. She brought back Kathleen, Carl Hutchins, and she must have been responsible for Cecile's 1988 return at Halloween, since Harding LeMay didn't come back until November. She started the Snowflake Ball, she did the special black & white Valentine's Day film noir piece, she was responsible for a lot of innovation on AW and she brought back key characters that fueled the show's future (Carl Hutchins being her longest felt achievement). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DRW50 Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) It's unfortunate because when I think about Swajeski's AW I immediately think of things I disliked (the treatment of Nicole, anything involving Frankie/Cass, the degradation of the Cass/Kathleen relationship, and most of all the whole fiasco with Donna, Michael and Stacey that made me despise the latter two), but she did a lot of good things too, and there was some fantastic drama, especially Jake's shooting trial, and the reveal of Iris as The Chief. And I adored Cali Timmons as Paulina, and Ryan, and Lorna (although I'm not sure how much of Lorna's best material she wrote), etc. Edited June 22, 2017 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 She wrote Lorna's best stuff IMO. Fierce Lorna. Carl's henchwoman, the affair with Matt, rivalry with Felicia- that was the Lorna I loved. Peggy Sloane wrote a more watered down version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 Lorna still had her edge during the Felicia alcoholism story. She got watered down due to recast more then the writing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted June 22, 2017 Members Share Posted June 22, 2017 I meant the rape. I don't know what writer/producer thought it was a good idea to rape that character but they were nuts! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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