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I would say I would have to disagree on the Steve Frame recast. Canary was terrible and just NOT Steve Frame. You are indeed correct with the misery of recasts of Alice Frame. Susan Harney was really the Alice I remember as a kid and did enjoy but none of them were anything like J Courtney. It is a shame once they bout Jackie back on the 3 occasions since she was fired in 75 they just did not keep her on the show indefinetely. I will note, on Lemay and Rauch's defense, Courtney was not that great of actress in the early days (watching old episodes) but thought was she was so genuine on her returns

Accepting recasts is often hard, particularly when the audience has been fond of the original actor in the role. ALL IN THE FAMILY could replace Carroll O'Connor with Sir Laurence Olivier, and there would be viewers screaming that he was a terrible actor, LOL.

Canary is a strong, dynamic performer, and certainly his suitability for the role is open to personal interpretation, but I do think the show could have done significantly worse in recasting Steven Frame. What if we had gotten...Kale Brown?

It's a shame you were not able to see ANOTHER WORLD every day, back in the 1960s and '70s; it might have given you a different perspective on Courtney's talent, which led to her remaining atop the Best Actress polls in Daytime TV for years, and which won her several awards as Best Actress from editors, critics, and fans.

While the petulant Lemay criticized her for a variety of reasons, I don't recall Rauch ever being quoted as finding fault with JC's acting. Indeed, upon Courtney's death, Rauch told Soap Opera Weekly that she had been a "great gal," who could always be counted on to give top-notch performances.

For myself, from a decade of viewing the show regularly, I felt Jacquie Courtney was an excellent actress, and I reacted to other actresses in the role of Alice with the same distaste other viewers felt for the replacement actors in different roles...like that of Steven Frame. smile.png

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Why?

She always seems to be big noting herself. She claimed to have written storylines but never says what or when,that NBC held off on cancellation in the 80's because of her, and various other things.

As I said,maybe it's just me and my interpretation of her comments.

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Does anyone know anything about the character Susan (Betsy) Giles? I see in a Daytime TV that she moved from Somerset to AW on June 25. I also remember reading in an early 1972 issue that she had been written out.

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The following YouTube video was uploaded yesterday. It has many great AW moments from various anniversary shows. Plus, the video clips are in excellent condition.

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Watched a couple of eps from 80 and 81 this morning on YT. The 1980 ep was especially good. Tom King was HW, but it still had the Lemay-ish theatrical feel and the dialogue was excellent. The vets were front and center. With the 81 episode, L. Virginia Browne was now HW. The show seemed more melodramatic and plot-driven in tone than the 80 episode, and the dialogue wasn't as crisp. I think what surprised me most was how much I actually liked Vana Tribbey as Alice. I was a kid when these eps first aired, and I remember Tribbey's Alice as cold and remote. Although she seems a bit more remote than, say, Susan Harney, she was quite good. Again, Browne was writing at the time. Is it her stint or Corinne Jacker's stint that is universally loathed. Did Jacker come before or after Browne?

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Jennifer Runyon, who was playing Sally then, commented on those episodes on Facebook. "I was a baby!" LOL Of course, Brady fans got a kick out of seeing her with Chris Knight (as Leigh Hobson). She said he was the only person she knew when she took over for Susan Olsen in A Very Brady Christmas.

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Jacker replaced Browne. And it was Jacker's stint that was loathed.

Watched a couple of eps from 80 and 81 this morning on YT. The 1980 ep was especially good. Tom King was HW, but it still had the Lemay-ish theatrical feel and the dialogue was excellent. The vets were front and center. With the 81 episode, L. Virginia Browne was now HW. The show seemed more melodramatic and plot-driven in tone than the 80 episode, and the dialogue wasn't as crisp. I think what surprised me most was how much I actually liked Vana Tribbey as Alice. I was a kid when these eps first aired, and I remember Tribbey's Alice as cold and remote. Although she seems a bit more remote than, say, Susan Harney, she was quite good. Again, Browne was writing at the time. Is it her stint or Corinne Jacker's stint that is universally loathed. Did Jacker come before or after Browne?

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Corinne Jacker's Another World was all over the place. All of the following took place while she was headwriter:

The Rachel/Steve/Alice triangle was revived until Alice left town in Fall 1982; Pat Randolph leaves Bay City to run Cory Publishing's New York office; Jamie write a Peyton Place-style book about the citizens of Bay City which was optioned into a movie. The movie is later sabotaged; Clarice has a mid-life pregnancy; Ada sells The Hair Affair and takes a job at the police station working with children involved in crime; the short-lived Shea family arrives- mother Loretta killed by a car bomb and dad Harry is killed trying to rescue Rachel and Steve in a construction cave-in- son Pete becomes involved with Steve Frame's daughter Diana; Bob and Henrietta Morgan have marital problems; their son RJ gets involved with hoodlums; Quinn Harding's brother Ed comes to town; Quinn takes in Thomasina; The Male Panthers kidnap Matthew and Rachel has to rescue Matthew in San Diego. The Male Panthers implicate Mitch in the kidnapping and he is sent to jail; Mac decides to run for mayor of Bay City, and Mayor Stein uses Sandy and Blaine's relationship to discredit Mac until Mac drops out of the race. Mayor Stein then tries to discredit Brian Bancroft regarding his mental case son, Ted. Sandy photographs Mayor Stein paying bribes. Stein is caught in an FBI sting and Brian wins the election; Rachel gets involved with Russian sculptor Nikolai Pirenko; Jim Matthews dies of a heart attack in Finland; Alma Rudder and Cecile plot to drive Blaine crazy using her old diary; Cecile gives birth to Maggie Cory; Cass Winthrop arrives in Bay City; Louis St. George, a crooked art dealer, who is Cecile's father and Felicia Gallant's ex-husband, arrives in Bay City; after the movie fiasco Jamie becomes a university professor; Rachel is duped into selling Louis' stolen art at her gallery; Blaine's ex and Alma's brother, Buzz, causes trouble for Sandy and Blaine; Steve and Quinn hire architect Roy Bingham to work for the construction company.

Overall, AW switched gears every couple of months during her head-writing tenure in an attempt to restore the ratings.

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Corinne Jacker's Another World was all over the place. All of the following took place while she was headwriter:

The Rachel/Steve/Alice triangle was revived until Alice left town in Fall 1982; Pat Randolph leaves Bay City to run Cory Publishing's New York office; Jamie write a Peyton Place-style book about the citizens of Bay City which was optioned into a movie. The movie is later sabotaged; Clarice has a mid-life pregnancy; Ada sells The Hair Affair and takes a job at the police station working with children involved in crime; the short-lived Shea family arrives- mother Loretta killed by a car bomb and dad Harry is killed trying to rescue Rachel and Steve in a construction cave-in- son Pete becomes involved with Steve Frame's daughter Diana; Bob and Henrietta Morgan have marital problems; their son RJ gets involved with hoodlums; Quinn Harding's brother Ed comes to town; Quinn takes in Thomasina; The Male Panthers kidnap Matthew and Rachel has to rescue Matthew in San Diego. The Male Panthers implicate Mitch in the kidnapping and he is sent to jail; Mac decides to run for mayor of Bay City, and Mayor Stein uses Sandy and Blaine's relationship to discredit Mac until Mac drops out of the race. Mayor Stein then tries to discredit Brian Bancroft regarding his mental case son, Ted. Sandy photographs Mayor Stein paying bribes. Stein is caught in an FBI sting and Brian wins the election; Rachel gets involved with Russian sculptor Nikolai Pirenko; Jim Matthews dies of a heart attack in Finland; Alma Rudder and Cecile plot to drive Blaine crazy using her old diary; Cecile gives birth to Maggie Cory; Cass Winthrop arrives in Bay City; Louis St. George, a crooked art dealer, who is Cecile's father and Felicia Gallant's ex-husband, arrives in Bay City; after the movie fiasco Jamie becomes a university professor; Rachel is duped into selling Louis' stolen art at her gallery; Blaine's ex and Alma's brother, Buzz, causes trouble for Sandy and Blaine; Steve and Quinn hire architect Roy Bingham to work for the construction company.

Overall, AW switched gears every couple of months during her head-writing tenure in an attempt to restore the ratings.

I got dizzy just reading that....

As a huge Cecile fan I wish some of the storyline with her and Alma terrorizing Blaine was on Youtube. I know that Alma dressed up as a doll, didn't she? I'd love to watch that as I think I missed it as a kid. Of course, it was probably best that I didn't see an adult dressed as a doll running around terrorizing someone. haha

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