We have all seen how bad "our shows" can be with a bad headwriter, we sometimes have to be happy with what's left, even if it isn't perfect. Hence, Y&R fans satisfaction, or even Days and OLTL for that matter.

Who says I have to be happy with what's left? Who says anyone has to be happy? I don't have to be happy if I don't want to be; and I don't have to settle. I want the best from all these shows, and nothing but. Not even as they disappear, one by one, from TV screens forever.

getting Jessica Klein or Essenstein and Brown to destroy the show in its final years.

Whats wrong with Jessica Klein? I loved her work on the original 90210.

Whats wrong with Jessica Klein? I loved her work on the original 90210.

She might have been ok with a teen show but she sucked royalty at ATWT. She lasted all of a few months I think...LOL.

Edited April 26, 200916 yr by Ruxton Hills

She might have been ok with a teen show but she sucked royalty at ATWT. She lasted all of a few months I think...LOL.

Oh God, she was f-ucking horrible, and you have to be pretty bad to look as bad as Black and Stern did.

She lasted like 5 months at ATWT.

But then again, I'd hardly ever categorize BH 90210 as a quality show, so she might have done well there.

Edited April 26, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

She might have been ok with a teen show but she sucked royalty at ATWT. She lasted all of a few months I think...LOL.

Lucinda's at a church bombing, and she's holding hands, singing "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand." If that does not convince why Jessica Klein should never be allowed near another soap in a HW'ing capacity, nothing will.

Lucinda's at a church bombing, and she's holding hands, singing "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand." If that does not convince why Jessica Klein should never be allowed near another soap in a HW'ing capacity, nothing will.

Lucinda's at a church bombing, and she's holding hands, singing "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand." If that does not convince why Jessica Klein should never be allowed near another soap in a HW'ing capacity, nothing will.

Y&R is one of the most watchable soaps on the air right now IMO. Heck it's probably THE most watchable soap.

Heck I'd take a MAB to a Chuck Pratt or Bob Guza anyday

Alot of generalizations in this thread. Everyone should speak for themselves many posts I've viewed underestimate the intelligence of other viewers. I personally take the show as it goes it is not perfect but overall I love the approach (mostly), I love the characters (mostly), and I love watching these artists in their classic performance . I am not afraid to take away my viewership from the show if the show gets "that bad". I watch no other soaps though so maybe it would be a bit "easier" for me. I'm a relatively new viewer but I must say I'm loving MAB and her team's work for the most part

Edited April 26, 200916 yr by classicmoment

Lucinda's at a church bombing, and she's holding hands, singing "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand." If that does not convince why Jessica Klein should never be allowed near another soap in a HW'ing capacity, nothing will.

lolllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucinda's at a church bombing, and she's holding hands, singing "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand." If that does not convince why Jessica Klein should never be allowed near another soap in a HW'ing capacity, nothing will.

Wait, are you serious? Guess I misjudged her...

To her credit, she wrote some of my fave 90210 eps like Intervention, Baby Makes Five, and Emily. But it wasn't until her tenure as show runner(along with Steve Wasserman) that I began to stop watching.

Alot of generalizations in this thread. Everyone should speak for themselves many posts I've viewed underestimate the intelligence of other viewers. I personally take the show as it goes it is not perfect but overall I love the approach (mostly), I love the characters (mostly), and I love watching these artists in their classic performance . I am not afraid to take away my viewership from the show if the show gets "that bad". I watch no other soaps though so maybe it would be a bit "easier" for me. I'm a relatively new viewer but I must say I'm loving MAB and her team's work for the most part

I am glad you are enjoying it, most folks are...and that is good!

But alot of the Y&R viewers generalize the "non lovers" of Y&R:

"Oh, YOU just haven't watched the show LONG ENOUGH."

"Y&R is more geared towards LONG TERM viewers"

Its the same type of condescending garbage that a certain Y&R scriptwriter said..which I need to let go. lol!

Well, I watched and loved Y&R from 1986-2002. And can't stand it now.

I am gonna try to let go of this subject. But its cool that you like it, alot of people enjoy it as well as the soap press.

Wait, are you serious? Guess I misjudged her...

To her credit, she wrote some of my fave 90210 eps like Intervention, Baby Makes Five, and Emily. But it wasn't until her tenure as show runner(along with Steve Wasserman) that I began to stop watching.

Just because she sucked on ATWT doesn't mean she sucked in primetime. God, sometimes daytime's best writers SUCK in daytime! Claire Labine on OLTL and Michael Malone round 2 on OLTL are good examples.

Wait, are you serious? Guess I misjudged her...

To her credit, she wrote some of my fave 90210 eps like Intervention, Baby Makes Five, and Emily. But it wasn't until her tenure as show runner(along with Steve Wasserman) that I began to stop watching.

I thought the church bombing was after Klein left. Wasn't she there for the earlier part of the racism story?

I was never that put out by Lucinda singing, it was just a silly, preachy story, but it was better treatment than she got from FMB and Lorraine Broderick, when Lucinda fell in love with James, became his dupe, and was written out as a mute paraplegic stroke victim after they drove Liz Hubbard from the show.

Klein was a very mixed bag. She put Jack and Carly together, who were a sizzling couple back then. Some of her other stories, like Damian returning as a priest, were not good.

She also wrote for ATWT in 1984, I think she wrote the story where Marisa Tomei won a beauty contest.

rangethatrover

"Oh, YOU just haven't watched the show LONG ENOUGH."

"Y&R is more geared towards LONG TERM viewers"

Funnily enough I actually think I'd enjoy Y&R more right now if I wasn't a long term viewer. I remember when Nikki was not just Victor's punching bag. I remember when Jill was not only there to shriek at Kay and Victor.

Sure the last couple of weeks have been slow and I haven't liked a few things, but I'm not worried. Y&R just got back to being good again this past fall, so I will give the show a pass if it's not up to par for a few weeks (unlike say YEARS ala GH, ATWT). Anyway, I think May and June will be very good.