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Ha Ha! Your post just reminded me of another Ed/Mo video I've been wanting to see again. Thanks lol.

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I loved Bridget, she was one of those characters who kept growing and changing and could have a great longterm heroine. The way they made her into this bitter, Hart-obsessed frump was so disheartening. They had her and Nola on the show together for a while and Nola had also become a bitter frump. It was a very shameful writing choice from McTavish.

The Nola that we saw during her second run on the show was a travesty. With Bridget, I agree it was disheartening to see her pine away for Hart, but it kind of fit her character. As she began to evolve as a character and establish a friendship with David I started to like her more.

I remember when Blake went swimming naked at the country club pool, just so Ross would see her. I was shocked and I couldn't believe what was going to happen, but they were so perfect together. I grew to enjoy Liz and Jerry but they never had that electricity of Jerry and Sherry. Those scenes are among the hottest I've seen anywhere, on anything.

I actually agree with you there. Of course I appreciate that we got such a gem like LK after Sherry left. Gawd knows the role of Mindy didn't have much luck after Kimberly Simms' departure.

When I watch clips from that era I get sad, about what was to come, but those episodes are still a joy to watch. Other episodes I have a hard time watching, because of what is to come, is the stuff from Pam Long, especially knowing she was about to decimate the Bauers.

I know, but her writing was so good at times though. I do hate the fact though that at the expense of some of the good Pam had written on the show; we got the Bauers written off. It kind of makes one really appreciate the TPTB for reigning in the show a bit and focusing more on the Bauers in the early 90s.

My favorite clips to watch are those written by the Dobsons and Marland. They seem to "get" GL, their shows and characters were wonderfully balanced and complex, assuming viewers were intelligent, and they both laid foundations which served GL well for decades (and could have served them even longer if future regimes hadn't undone much of that work). Marland's work is fascinating for me to watch because his style seems very different from his ATWT style. There's less of a traditional, conservative nature. There are still solid families, but there's also a bite, a stronger sense of flair and camp. I think this suits the show well because GL was always a little more out there than ATWT. Nancy Hughes was very stolid but Bert Bauer was much more emotional, out of control, for many years. While ATWT had tension and triangles and neuroses, GL had increasingly insane characters like Kit Vested wreaking havoc.

Wow, I've never heard the word "camp" used to describe Doug's writing. It makes me quite curious as to some of the other examples. You're spot on about your GL and ATWT comparison. I thought I was the only one to notice that stark difference between ATWT and GL from the late 60s to early 70s from reading many synopsis of that time.

Looking at some of the videos you posted, it seems as if Doug penned the kind of camp that didn't insult the viewer's intelligence or dumb down the character for that matter. Call it sophisticated camp or whatever you may choose, I do wish the writers of soaps today could take note.

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Would this be Charita Bauer's last appearence? The episode is of Hillary Bauer's funeral.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1fnMwTO5o&NR=1

Charita Bauer made 1 final appearance in December of 1984 where she made a phone call (I forget to whom) explaining her absence from Springfield. Charita was pretty ill by then and had her oxygen nearby on the set.

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Wow, I've never heard the word "camp" used to describe Doug's writing. It makes me quite curious as to some of the other examples. You're spot on about your GL and ATWT comparison. I thought I was the only one to notice that stark difference between ATWT and GL from the late 60s to early 70s from reading many synopsis of that time.

Looking at some of the videos you posted, it seems as if Doug penned the kind of camp that didn't insult the viewer's intelligence or dumb down the character for that matter. Call it sophisticated camp or whatever you may choose, I do wish the writers of soaps today could take note.

I think that's a good way to describe it. I find Doug's GL much more campy than his ATWT, aside from the few examples I mentioned, there's also Nola, and the disco. But this all fit into GL's identity, as his later writing fit into ATWT's identity (his camp there was more subdued, usually confined to someone like Shannon, or Julie, or Lucinda).

I wish we could see some of GL from the late 60s early 70s. Some of the stories, like Sara McIntyire being gaslighted by her husband and the maid he hired, and Sara accidentally shooting and killing the maid, sound crazy. Imagining calm, rational Sara in the middle of stories like this or Kit...wow. And I'd love to see the stuff where Kit kills Tracy.

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Just watched this clip and had to share it...It was so powerful.

From October 1, 1992: Roger has finally found out about Ross and Blake's affair and confronts them about it, thinking that Ross is using Blake as revenge against him. What he finds out instead hurts him even deeper. Meanwhile, Holly, having followed Roger to Blake's, listens quietly outside the house.

Part 1

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An episode that originally aired on April 8, 1993. Michelle had run away from home, what Ed didn't know was she hiding at Billy and Vanessa's house. Some nice scenes between Holly and Ed, Vanessa, Michelle, and Bill. I love in the beginning of the episode how Ed calls Holly out on making everything about her. :lol:

I love how months after her death, Maureen's death still had an impact on all those whose lives she touched. Not just Ed and Michelle, but I loved the scene in this episode were Vanessa tears up and tells Michelle that her mother would be so happy that nothing bad happened to her and how she feels Maureen's presense with her. If anything like this happened in daytime now, the aftermath of the death would be forgotten in a month.

Also in this episode, Harley's trying to find more information as to where Buzz could be, Nick spies on Mindy and HB as they fish, and crazy Eve.

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The end credits for this episode. I didn't know Addie Walsh briefly wrote for Curlee/Demorest.

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Maureen's death did provide some classic material for Ed, Michelle, and Holly, although in the long run Ed was weakened. Holly was such a well-rounded character when Nancy Curlee was headwriter.

This was Barbara Crampton Mindy? I could see why Eve hated her, and hated Ann Hamilton Mindy. I loved Eve, crazy or sane. She had an ethereal presence many GL women did not.

I really hated Stacy Winthrop when I watched the Soapnet run of AW, but I loved Eve way back when and I was happy when I watched some of the Youtube stuff again that my feelings were still there.

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Ann Hamilton's Mindy was in this episode.

I know Krista Tesreau originated the role, but Kimberly Simms is my favourite Mindy.

Holly was such a well-rounded character when Nancy Curlee was headwriter.

So were all of the big and essential characters really.

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I loved Kimberly Simms. She was the Mindy I saw when I started watching, and she played up her big stories, the toxic affair with Roger, the Daddy's girl role with Billy, like nobody's business. My heart broke for her when Billy disowned her and when Alex went off on her. I wasn't as interested in her relationship with Nick, as I think that relationship was a black hole which also hobbled any future Mindy, but VI and KS did have chemistry (on and offscreen, apparently).

I was thrilled when she returned in 1997 for HB's memorial, and I thought she had chemistry with everyone right off the bat. I really liked the little scene with Billy where she encouraged him to start living life again. Isn't it interesting that the one thing every regime tends to get right is keeping Billy around and writing for his strengths? I wish they did more with him, but I know if this had been GH or AMC, he'd be long dead, or long vanished.

I don't know if Krista was unavailable at the time of HB's memorial or if they just didn't ask her back. When Krista did come back, I was pleased, because I think she suits Mindy much better than she suited Tina and she has great chemistry with her co-stars. But I think Kimberly will always be my #1 Mindy, just because she has that sensuality which no other actress brought to the role.

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1985- Lujack's death. Beverlee McKinsey, Judi Evans, and David Irzarry are phenominal in this episode. Truly a touching moment, my heart breaks as Lujack calls out Beth's name.

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:wub: Lujack and Beth! How I wish VI and JE could return for GL's finale, even though they're both on other shows/networks and BC is now playing Beth!
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You know now that you mention it, I don't think Beth even knows of the existence of Lujack's twin, Nick McHenry. It would have been an awesome story if they had brought back Nick and played out all the beats with him being his look alike and all, sure beats seeing Reva and Cassie tackle the fact that Jeffrey looks like Richard.

Of course, even though I love Beth Chamberlain, and I think she's been completely wasted this second time around on GL, Judi and Vincent had amazing chemistry back then and I would love to see them together and on screen again.

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