OK... because in "real life" celebrities disguise themselves in blond wigs and lead a double life because they don't want people to know that they're a famous singer.

Miley, oh Miley...

LOL, this is true. The only difference, though, IMO, is that Hannah Montana isn't hailed as one of the decade's greatest shows of foreverer and nobody, not even the most rabid of her/its fans, saying that it's brilliantly written or a masterpiece or anything. If a Hannah fan believes that, that's perfectly fine, but the second they call all people who disagree jealous, talentless hacks, that's when it stops being fine. That's what too many Gleenuts do on blogs, message boards, etc.

LOL, this is true. The only difference, though, IMO, is that Hannah Montana isn't hailed as one of the decade's greatest shows of foreverer and nobody, not even the most rabid of her/its fans, saying that it's brilliantly written or a masterpiece or anything. If a Hannah fan believes that, that's perfectly fine, but the second they call all people who disagree jealous, talentless hacks, that's when it stops being fine. That's what too many Gleenuts do on blogs, message boards, etc.

Not to mention that Hannah Montana fans are generally, like, 7 so ...

I love Glee and all, but I'm aware and acknowledge that if you want Shakespeare, Glee, under any circumstances, won't be providing you happily.

Susan May 30th, 2010

She doesn’t “get” it because it involves truly talented people who don’t need auto-tune to make sure people’s ears don’t bleed when their music is played.

Has this moron even watched Glee? The auto-tuning is one of the worst things about the show, but without it I suspect that the actresses who play Rachel and her mother might be the only survivors. The auto-tuning of Finn is one of the main reasons why I despise his casting.

We're laughing at the predictable comments underneath, right? It's getting old. I'm no Miley fan, but the knee-jerk "she jehluss!" comments are extremely ironic, no?

Miley has no reason to be jealous (though I think her new career direction could badly backfire), but the fact she dislikes it does make me a bit more willing to like it more. LOL Of course I think musicals can be really great ways to tell stories (something I'm not sure Glee exactly exemplifies...), and I'd saiy it's just as hard to suspend your diebelief to watch one as it would be to watch crap like Hannah Montana. But I'm not gonna say that Glee is in the same level as A Little Night Music (at all).

BadZoe a few of the others would last without the auto tune--though maybe they couldn't record the tracks in the extremely tight amount of time they do--I saw Matt Morrison in Hairspray ages back, and he definitely can sing live (in fact I think he's a bit underused how thye always seem to give him endless rap songs). But yeah, I don't think Monteith has much vocal talent--I went to school with him here in Victoria and didn't know him well, but he was a nice, quiet guy so I could be biased--he did play the drums but certainly wasn't involved in any theatre or musical theatre (like me )

Anyway, tonight's episode was typically a mixed bag for me. Why does Jesse hate Rachel so much? Why is the wife even back and now hitting on Finn? And even worse, why is the closeted, flamboyantly gay teacher from the early eps back (complete with hysterical molestation jokes) when even Ryan Murphy said to Ent Weekly he realized he was a mistake...

Edited June 2, 201015 yr by EricMontreal22

Anyway, tonight's episode was typically a mixed bag for me. Why does Jesse hate Rachel so much? Why is the wife even back and now hitting on Finn? And even worse, why is the closeted, flamboyantly gay teacher from the early eps back (complete with hysterical molestation jokes) when even Ryan Murphy said to Ent Weekly he realized he was a mistake...

Cheap and negative gay stereotypes are an easy way to get a reaction, and Murphy loves to take the easy way out in his writing.

Edited June 2, 201015 yr by CarlD2

the reaction to the miley comments have been amusing.

she pretty much said people busting out into song out of nowhere is something she doesnt like. Its a common complaint about musicals. I feel the same way, for the most part. Now if her show plot was as redic or not is rather pointless... Moving on...

Ryan Murphey... Eric, i dont know why you give him so much credit. He is an awful showrunner. He has proven time and time again he pretty much just goes with no plan.

People also need to learn the names of Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan.

Great finale! I'm already geared up for season 2!

The Vocal Adrenaline and Quinn giving birth sequence was brilliant. I know it's not going to happen but I wish it was more soapier like the first half of the season which had more of an edge.

People also need to learn the names of Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan.

Right, but it sounds like Murphy is the one with final say (though apparently it was Brad's concept, I think, but was much darker before Murphy got to it).

It's interesting that

and I'm paraphrasing here, Murphy has already talked about how their Christian character next season will be anti-gay. Apparently this is to somehow be respectful to Christian beliefs? Does it seem kind of sad to anyone else that they had a chance to have a young Christian character who is OK with gays, and instead they are going to turn it into her being homophobic? This may be realistic, but since when is this show interested in realism? I wonder if they will still make her look good, since they have no problem making Kurt look just repulsive, one of the most unlikeable characters on the show, even though he is gay and they make noises about how you should accept gays. It's also kind of odd that Murphy has Kristen Chenoweth on the show so often, Kristen who is a very devout Christian yet is also pro-gay, but when he wants a Christian character in a main role, she is anti-gay.

It's interesting that

and I'm paraphrasing here, Murphy has already talked about how their Christian character next season will be anti-gay. Apparently this is to somehow be respectful to Christian beliefs? Does it seem kind of sad to anyone else that they had a chance to have a young Christian character who is OK with gays, and instead they are going to turn it into her being homophobic? This may be realistic, but since when is this show interested in realism? I wonder if they will still make her look good, since they have no problem making Kurt look just repulsive, one of the most unlikeable characters on the show, even though he is gay and they make noises about how you should accept gays. It's also kind of odd that Murphy has Kristen Chenoweth on the show so often, Kristen who is a very devout Christian yet is also pro-gay, but when he wants a Christian character in a main role, she is anti-gay.

This, on a cartoon that is filled with walking stereotypes? It's no surprise.

we seem to have enough "masculine" gay guys on TV (well not enough, but a fair amount)

We do?

Would you mind giving examples cos I really can't remember?

Isn't it nice that Murphy is so satisfied with the lovely gay portrayals on his shows that he can criticize Modern Family...

http://ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=6151&MediaType=1&Category=22

And in the meanntime, on the oh so gay-friendly Glee,

Colfer has said Kurt's relationship has been pushed back and likely will not even be seen next season. Shocker...But he WILL be having two girl cheerleaders kiss. I guess at least it can't be any more stupid than when he did that same story on Nip/Tuck (which was all about them not really being lesbians and their threesome with that Michael Jackson lookalike son of Sean's driving them apart).

Edited August 4, 201015 yr by CarlD2

http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/britney-spears/news/234790-britney-to-perform-me-against-the-music-on-glee