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I've got some interesting local ratings for soaps. The ratings are for Monday March 2, 2009 in the TOP 5 markets in the country (NY, LA, CHI, PHI, DAL) along with Houston, Indianapolis, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Charlotte, Cleveland, The Bay Area, SF-OAK-SJ, St. Louis, and Ft. Myers, Florida. So you'll be able to see how soaps do on the East Coast, Midwest, West Coast, and in the South. Trust me once you see them there's a huge difference in how soaps are watched in each region of the country.

I also have the ratings for MON-THU in the TOP 5 markets that also include Houston, Indianapolis, and Ft. Myers, Florida. Unfortunately I don't have them for the other markets.

One thing you'll notice is how ABC Soaps are watched more on the east coast more than CBS Soaps. CBS Soaps are heavily watched in the south. You'll also notice how after 9am or 10am, the hut levels start going down after most of the people head for work. That means soaps are doing the best they can in low hut level timeslots.

Make note that all Left Coast (West Coast cities LA & BAY AREA) don't include their whole ratings so they may look low b/c their always delayed in fast market data.

Soaps are doing up to par with what other shows are doing in daytime and even a little better.

Here's New York, NY (#1 media market in the country) first:

Population

City - 8,274,527

Staten Island - 481,613

Bronx - 1,373,659

Manhattan - 1,620,867

Queens - 2,270,338

Brooklyn - 2,465,326

Northern New Jersey - 3,492,590

Urban - 18,223,567

Metro - 18,815,988

Time Net Program NY (representing East Coast market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 4.2/11

11:00a ABC The View 7.5/16

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.8/ 5

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.9/ 5

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 2.6/ 6

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 3.3/ 7

7:00a NBC Today 5.7/14

9:00a NBC Today 3.9/ 9

10:00a NBC Today 3.4/ 7

7:00a FOX Good Day New York (local) 2.8/ 7

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1:00p ABC All My Children 3.2/ 7

MON 3/2: 3.2/7

TUE 3/3: 2.9/7

WED 3/4: 3.1/10

THU 3/5: 3.2/11

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 3.6/ 8

MON 3/2: 3.6/8

TUE 3/3: 2.2/7

WED 3/4: 2.6/8

THU 3/5: 3.1/11

3:00p ABC General Hospital 3.4/ 7

MON 3/2: 3.4/7

TUE 3/3: 1.6/5

WED 3/4: 2.1/6

THU 3/5: 2.2/7

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 3.2/ 7

MON 3/2: 3.2/7

TUE 3/3: 2.4/7

WED 3/4: 2.6/9

THU 3/5: 2.6/9

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 2.1/ 4

MON 3/2: 2.1/4

TUE 3/3: 1.5/5

WED 3/4: 2.1/7

THU 3/5: 1.8/6

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 2.1/ 4

MON 3/2: 2.1/4

TUE 3/3: 1.5/4

WED 3/4: 1.7/6

THU 3/5: 1.3/5

10:00a CBS Guiding Light 1.7/ 4

MON 3/2: 1.7/4

TUE 3/3: 1.2/4

WED 3/4: 1.4/5

THU 3/5: 0.8/3

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.0/ 4

MON 3/2: 2.0/4

TUE 3/3: 1.2/4

WED 3/4: 1.2/4

THU 3/5: 1.3/4

Los Angeles, CA (#2 media market in the country):

Population

City - 3,849,378

Anaheim - 346,823

Orange County - 3,121,251

Urban - 11,789,487

Greater Los Angeles Area - 12,923,547

Metro - 17,755,322

Southern California - 23,044,650

Time Net Program LA (representing West Coast market)

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EARLY MORNING (Pacific Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 2.8/9

10:00a ABC The View 2.8/9

7:00a CBS Early Show 0.8/3

7:30a CBS Early Show 0.4/1

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 1.6/5

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 1.9/6

7:00a NBC Today 2.2/7

9:00a NBC Today 2.1/7

10:00a NBC Today 1.0/3

7:00a FOX Good Day Los Angeles (local) 2.8/9

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 1.6/5

MON 3/2: 1.6/5

TUE 3/3: 1.4/5

WED 3/4: 1.8/6

THU 3/5: 1.6/6

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 1.5/5

MON 3/2: 1.5/5

TUE 3/3: 1.6/5

WED 3/4: 1.9/6

THU 3/5: 1.5/6

2:00p ABC General Hospital 1.5/5

MON 3/2: 1.5/5

TUE 3/3: 2.0/7

WED 3/4: 1.8/6

THU 3/5: 1.6/6

11:30a CBS Young & the Restless 0.7/2

MON 3/2: 0.7/2

TUE 3/3: 0.8/3

WED 3/4: 1.7/6

THU 3/5: 1.3/5

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 0.7/2

MON 3/2: 0.7/2

TUE 3/3: 0.7/2

WED 3/4: 0.8/2

THU 3/5: 1.1/4

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 0.3/1

MON 3/2: 0.3/1

TUE 3/3: 2.0/7

WED 3/4: 1.8/6

THU 3/5: 1.6/6

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 0.5/2

MON 3/2: 0.5/2

TUE 3/3: 0.6/2

WED 3/4: 0.8/2

THU 3/5: 0.6/2

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 1.0/3

MON 3/2: 1.0/3

TUE 3/3: 1.2/4

WED 3/4: 0.8/3

THU 3/5: 0.5/3

Chicago, IL (#3 media market in the country):

Population

City - 2,836,659

Chicagoland Area (Chicago/South Wisconsin/Northwest Indiana) - 8,711,000

Metro - 9,785,747

Time Net Program CHI (representing Midwest market)

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EARLY MORNING (Central Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 4.0/12

9:00a ABC Oprah Winfrey Show Live 9.1/29 (ABC-WLS 7 Chicago must love their Oprah)

10:00a ABC The View 6.4/18

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.3/4

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.1/3

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 3.2/9

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 3.8/11

7:00a NBC Today 3.5/11

9:00a NBC Today 2.0/6

10:00a NBC Today 1.0/3

7:00a FOX Good Day Chicago (local) 1.7/5

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 5.1/13 (WOW!)

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 4.1/11

2:00p ABC General Hospital 4.0/11

11:30a CBS Young & the Restless 0.9/2

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 0.8/2

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 0.8/2

9:00a CBS Guiding Light 0.5/2

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.0/5

Philadelphia, PA (#4 media market in the country):

Population

City - 1,449,634

Urban - 5,325,000

Metro (Philadelphia/Delaware/New Jersey) - 5,823,233

Time Net Program PHI (representing Atlantic market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 9.7/22

11:00a ABC The View 8.7/17

7:00a CBS Early Show 3.5/9

7:30a CBS Early Show 3.1/7

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 3.4/7

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 4.9/9

7:00a NBC Today 5.2/12

9:00a NBC Today 4.7/10

10:00a NBC Today 3.7/7

7:00a FOX Good Day Philadelphia (local) 4.5/10

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 4.6/9

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 4.6/9

3:00p ABC General Hospital 4.5/9

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 5.7/11 (WOAH!)

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 4.7/10

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 2.9/6

10:00a CBS Guiding Light 1.5/3

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.0/4

Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX (#5 media market in the country):

Population

City - 1,240,499

Metro - 6,145,037

Time Net Program DAL (representing Southwest market)

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EARLY MORNING (Central Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 3.7/12

10:00a ABC The View 2.3/9

7:00a CBS Early Show 2.0/6

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.0/3

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 2.0/8

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 2.1/8

7:00a NBC Today 3.2/11

9:00a NBC Today 2.5/10

10:00a NBC Today 1.3/5

7:00a FOX Good Day @ 7 Dallas (local) 3.9/13

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DAYTIME

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11:00a ABC All My Children 1.6/7 (Weird! must've been a pre-emption here)

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 2.4/8

2:00p ABC General Hospital 2.6/8

11:30a CBS Young & the Restless 2.7/10

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 2.6/7

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 1.4/5

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 1.0/3

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.0/7

The Bay Area

San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA (#6 media market in the country):

Population

San Francisco - 799,183

San Francisco Urban - 3,228,605

San Francisco Metro - 4,203,898

Oakland - 397,067

Oakland/Alameda County - 1,443,741

San Jose - 989,496 (will reach 1 million citizens by 2010)

San Jose Urban - 1,611,000

Bay Area - 7,264,887

Time Net Program SF-OAK-SJ (representing Northern California market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 2.4/11

10:00a ABC The View 3.4/15

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.2/6

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.1/5

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 1.2/5

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 1.8/8

7:00a NBC Today 1.8/8

9:00a NBC Today 1.0/5

10:00a NBC Today 0.4/2

7:00a FOX Mornings on 2 (local) 3.3/15

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 2.4/9

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 1.8/7

2:00p ABC General Hospital 1.8/7

11:00a CBS Young & the Restless 2.7/12 (The BAY loves their Y&R, big build out of The Price Is Right)

11:39a CBS Young & the Restless 4.8/21 (The BAY gives Y&R a 21 share in the market)

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 1.4/5 (no Y&R lead-in)

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 1.1/4

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 1.0/4

3:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 1.1/4 (DAYS on @ 3pm?)

Atlanta, GA (#8 media market in the country):

Population

City - 519,145

Metro - 5,278,904

Time Net Program ATL (representing Southern market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 10.4/28

11:00a ABC The View 7.9/19

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.3/4

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.0/3

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 2.1/5

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 2.4/6

7:00a NBC Today 3.6/10

9:00a NBC Today 2.9/7

10:00a NBC Today 1.5/4

7:00a FOX Good Day Atlanta (local) 6.0/16

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 3.2/8

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 2.3/6

3:00p ABC General Hospital 3.0/8

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 3.5/8

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 2.7/7

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 1.7/5

3:00p CBS Guiding Light 1.7/5

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 1.3/3

Houston, TX (#10 media market in the country):

Population

City - 2,208,180

Urban - 3,822,509

Metro - 5,628,102

Time Net Program HOU (representing Gulf market)

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EARLY MORNING (Central Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 5.3/17

10:00a ABC The View 4.0/12

7:00a CBS Early Show 3.3/10

7:30a CBS Early Show 3.2/10

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 4.5/13

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 4.7/15

7:00a NBC Today 7.3/23

9:00a NBC Today 4.1/13

10:00a NBC Today 4.0/12

7:00a FOX News 26 at 7am (local) 4.7/15

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 2.6/8

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 2.3/7

2:00p ABC General Hospital 2.2/6

11:00a CBS Young & the Restless 4.6/14

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 3.8/12 (who says B&B can't perform without Y&R?)

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 3.3/10

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 2.1/6

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 3.2/10

Detroit, MI (#11 media market in the country):

Population

City - 916,952

Urban - 3,903,377

Metro - 4,467,592

CSA (Detroit/Windsor/Canadian Border) - 5,405,918

Time Net Program DET (representing Northern/Midwest market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 3.7/12

11:00a ABC The View 4.7/15

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.1/3

7:30a CBS Early Show 0.7/2

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 1.9/6

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 2.3/8

7:00a NBC Today 3.9/12

9:00a NBC Today 2.5/8

2:00p NBC Today 1.2/4

7:00a FOX 2 News Morning (local) 6.2/20

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 2.4/7

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 2.7/8

3:00p ABC General Hospital 3.2/9

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 2.1/6

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 1.2/4

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 0.9/3

10:00a CBS Guiding Light 0.8/3

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.0/6

Cleveland-Akron, OH (#17 media market in the country):

Population

City - 478,403

Metro - 2,945,831

Time Net Program CLE (representing Northern/Midwest market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 2.0/7

11:00a ABC The View 4.0/14

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.5/5

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.1/4

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 3.0/11

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 3.1/10

7:00a NBC Today 4.0/13

9:00a NBC Today 2.3/9

11:00a NBC Today 1.3/5

7:00a FOX 8 News (local) 7.3/26

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 2.5/8

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 2.8/9

3:00p ABC General Hospital 2.1/6 (usually higher in CLE)

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 3.1/10

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 2.0/6

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 1.8/6

3:00p CBS Guiding Light 1.1/3

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 1.7/5

Denver, CO (#18 media market in the country):

Population

City - 588,349

Metro - 2,998,878

Time Net Program DEN (representing Mountain Plains market)

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EARLY MORNING (Mountain Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 2.4/9

10:00a ABC The View 2.6/12

7:00a CBS Early Show 1.8/7

7:30a CBS Early Show 1.6/6

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 1.6/7

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 2.2/11

7:00a NBC Today 4.9/19

9:00a NBC Today 3.0/12

11:00a NBC Today 1.2/5

7:00a FOX Good Day Colorado (local) 1.3/5

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 1.3/5 (up from previous week)

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 1.3/5

2:00p ABC General Hospital 1.1/4

11:00a CBS Young & the Restless 1.2/6

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 0.6/3

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 1.0/4

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 1.1/4

2:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 3.1/12

2:30p NBC Days of Our Lives 5.9/19 (WOAH! Denver is clearly DAYS country)

St. Louis, MO (#21 media market in the country):

Population

City - 355,663

Metro - 2,822,118

Time Net Program STL (representing Midwestern Plains market)

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EARLY MORNING (Mountain Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 0.9/3

10:00a ABC The View 2.8/12

7:00a CBS Early Show 2.1/7

7:30a CBS Early Show 2.4/8

10:00a CBS The Price Is Right 4.1/14

10:30a CBS The Price Is Right 4.7/16

7:00a NBC Today 6.9/13

9:00a NBC Today 5.4/18

11:00a NBC Today 2.6/9

7:00a FOX 2 News in the Morning (local) 1.3/5

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DAYTIME

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12:00p ABC All My Children 1.9/6

1:00p ABC One Life to Live 1.5/5

2:00p ABC General Hospital 1.8/6

4:00p CBS Young & the Restless 3.8/9 (a soap on @ 4pm? maybe other markets should try it)

12:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 2.2/7 (who says B&B can't perform on its own?)

1:00p CBS As the World Turns 2.4/8

2:00p CBS Guiding Light 2.0/7

2:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 4.0/13 (doing great in the middle of the country)

Charlotte, NC (#24 media market in the country):

Population

City - 671,588

Metro - 2,277,074

Time Net Program CHA (representing Southern/Atlantic Coast market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 12.3/28

11:00a ABC The View 8.7/19

7:00a CBS Early Show 6.6/13

7:30a CBS Early Show 5.2/10

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 8.4/24

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 8.7/25

7:00a NBC Today 7.5/22

9:00a NBC Today 5.1/15

10:00a NBC Today 3.9/10

5:00a FOX News Rising (local) 1.6/4

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Note: Before you look at these ratings don't fall out, they are higher than usual b/c of the Winter Storm but Carolina is one of strongest soap markets in the country on any given day.

1:00p ABC All My Children 8.1/19 (WOW!)

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 7.7/18 (WOW!)

3:00p ABC General Hospital 7.1/18 (WOW!)

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 11.2/32 (OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGG! Winter Storms help huh?)

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 9.3/26 (WOW!)

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 7.6/24 (WOW!)

3:00p CBS Guiding Light 5.6/21 (WOW!)

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 4.7/15 (WOW!)

Indianapolis, IN (#26 media market in the country):

Population

City - 795,458

Metro - 2,014,267

Time Net Program INDY (representing Northern/Midwest market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 3.6/11

11:00a ABC The View 2.8/8

7:00a CBS Early Show 3.9/12

7:30a CBS Early Show 2.7/8

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 4.3/13

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 4.4/13

7:00a NBC Today 7.8/24

9:00a NBC Today 4.2/13

10:00a NBC Today 4.4/13

5:00a FOX/CW FOX 59 Morning News (local) 3.2/10

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 0.9/3

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 1.0/3

3:00p ABC General Hospital 0.9/3

12:30p CBS Young & the Restless 4.7/15 (CBS Country)

1:30p CBS Bold & the Beautiful 4.4/14

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 2.8/9

3:00p CBS Guiding Light 2.2/6

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 3.8/12 (WOAH!)

Ft. Myers, FL (#62 media market in the country):

Population

City - 68,689

Metro - 623,725

Time Net Program Ft. Myers (representing Southeast market)

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EARLY MORNING (Eastern Times)

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7:00a ABC Good Morning America 2.2/6

11:00a ABC The View 3.2/9

7:00a CBS Early Show 4.9/13

7:30a CBS Early Show 3.0/7

11:00a CBS The Price Is Right 2.5/7

11:30a CBS The Price Is Right 3.1/8

7:00a NBC Today 9.9/25

9:00a NBC Today 6.8/18

2:00p NBC Today 1.1/3

6:00a FOX FOX 4 Rising (local) 1.5/4

8:00a FOX The Morning Blend (local) 1.3/4

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DAYTIME

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1:00p ABC All My Children 1.2/3

2:00p ABC One Life to Live 0.8/2

3:00p ABC General Hospital 1.3/3

1:00p CBS Young & the Restless 2.9/8

10:30a CBS Bold & the Beautiful 1.5/4

2:00p CBS As the World Turns 2.2/6

3:00p CBS Guiding Light 2.3/6

1:00p NBC Days of Our Lives 2.2/6

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Yeah, ABC Daytime is definitely the big thing in Chicago. NBC has nothing and apparently all the CBS fans have died off or lost interest.

In the overall ratings, I'm surprised DAYS is holding on as strongly as it is at No. 3. It's not exactly must-see-TV. I wouldn't want the higher-ups to think it was smart to ax Marlena and showcase Melanie! Eeeks!

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I'm really pleased GL managed to get back to 1.7, and this for a week which had too much of some of their lesser storylines. If they'd had a little better quality they may have got 1.8. I guess with the lack of a storm, the ratings will go back down, but I think most of this week was strong, I'm hoping they will at least maintain 1.7.

No show on daytime panders so much to a male demo as GH. Why are they tied for last in that demo?

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Finally! I was wondering if there'd be *any* market where Guiding Light performs well in comparison to the others. This is the only one I saw where it comes in at No. 2! Ooh, and I just noticed that B&B comes on early at 10:30am, and then Y&R comes on at 1pm as a lead-in for ATWT. Interesting.

Also, I may not be comprehending these local ratings in terms of rating point versus population, but it seems like soaps aren't watched at all in Los Angeles.

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Sarah is overjoyed by his turnabout, but full happiness is hers on the day she overhears Joe telling a fearful patient that the world is beautiful and worth any. effort to get back into it. Steve and Adam are thrilled to learn that Cedars has been the recipient of the Levy Grant for expansion of hospital property. But they have learned, as they report to Ed, that the land they were hoping to build the new research facility on, the land immediately adjacent to the hospital, has been purchased by Dr. Justin Marler. Both Adam and Steve feel that Justin is expanding a power base at Cedars and the land purchase is just one more block in Justin’s power play. When Ed asks Marler why he purchased this particular parcel of land, Marler explains that he bought it with the express intention of someday building his own offices and facilities convenient to the major facilities of Cedars. When the subject of the hospital’s needing the land arises, Marler meets with Adam, and they agree that he should realize a fair profit from his property and that an unbiased assessor should be engaged to evaluate the market value of the land so they can agree on a selling price. When Sarah comments on the fact that Marler is to realize a profit on the land, he bitterly replies that no matter what he’s done since coming to Cedars to prove that he has changed. since she last knew him, she refuses to see him as anything but what he was all those years ago. Sarah insists this isn’t true. But Marler then calls Adam for a meeting and informs him that the land is not for sale at any price. As Adam begins to grow alarmed, Marler continues that the site for the new building will be his personal donation to the hospital. As Adam expresses profuse thanks and appreciation, Marler wryly notes that the tax deductions he’ll realize on this contribution to a charitable institution will benefit himself almost as much as Cedars. When Steve Jackson learns that Marler is to be elected head of the research wing that will be built on his property, he expresses the conviction that this was the exact intention of the gift. Adam, however, assures Steve that the donation wasn’t a factor in the hospital  board’s decision, they were concerned only with Dr. Marler’s reputation as a doctor. | After lengthy consultations and meetings. with the hospital  staff, Ed assured by the head nurse that her nurses performed commendably despite the added pressure of the train wreck, presents his findings to the hospital review board. Steve arrives at two possible explanations for the facts. Either Grainger, more active than usual due to the previously delayed medication, reached for the writing pad and inadvertently disconnected the breathing tubes, or he was in a state of extreme upset because of the delayed medication and.in the excitement a surge of adrenalin within his system caused his brain aneurism to start hemorrhaging. " Upon learning that the review board has ruled out negligence in Grainger’s death, Ed tells Rita, who takes her first free breath in a long time. But Ed hasn’t thought to tell Rita that he’s been in touch with Grainger’s attorney, Mr. Schafer, who, knowing that a woman was at the base of Grainger’s investigation, is coming to Springfield to try to find out who the woman - was who walked out on Grainger when he collapsed —in the restaurant. Peggy, learning that Rita’s “forgetting” to deliver Holly’s message was instrumental in their divorce ‘being finalized, tells Ed that Holly wanted to reach him to stop the divorce. Immediately after, Peggy is torn by doubts, wondering if she did the right thing.She confides in Barbara, who then discusses the situation with Ed. He tells her he and Holly have discovered a new closeness now that they are building their separate lives. Barbara quickly contradicts him: Holly is not building a new life. Barbara gently cautions Ed, saying, “People change, feelings change, and what seems right now may not be right a year from now. No decision is irrevocable.” Ed agrees with this. Now that Ben has declared his love for her, Hope finds herself apprehensive, fearing that she might be making a mistake, as she did a few years ago, when she was sure she was in love with her college professor. Explaining that she doesn’t want to make another mistake, she asks Ben to be patient, and he agrees. When Mike expresses his disapproval of Ben’s overstated independence, his need to be beholden to no one, Hope quickly jumps to Ben’s defense, and Mike apologizes. But Ben, surprisingly, accepts Mike’s assessment as constructive criticism. Later Hope, examining her feelings and desires, tells Ben she does love him and wants to belong to him. Later that evening, after they’ve made love, Ben asks Hope to marry him.And, delighted, she replies that she will. At Hope’s instigation, Bert has a family dinner to which Ben is invited, and Hope announces their intention to marry over glasses of wine. Mike politely offers best wishes while Bert thrills the couple with her offer to' make a Christmas wedding for them. Bert later tells Mike he must accept this engagement with good spirits for Hope, and later, seeing the joy she’s feeling, he gives his daughter his approval. But Ben finds another problem on his very own doorstep: his brother Jerry, who announces he’s left home after several bad fights with their parents. He refuses to tell Ben what they were fighting about. As Ben is showering, Jerry borrows his car and goes out for an hour. The phone rings, but Ben can’t hear it. Shortly after, two uniformed officers visit Mike at home to tell him that his late wife’s car has been involved in a delicatessen robbery earlier in the evening. Since Ben bought Leslie’s car, Mike accompanies the officers to Ben’s apartment. Ben curtly informs the police that he had nothing to do with the robbery and makes it clear that he feels they wouldn’t be there if he didn’t have a record and that his exoneration doesn’t prevent his being hassled like any ex-con,as they tell him he has to go to the police station for questioning. Hope tells Ben she called him earlier, and when he replies that he must have been in the shower, she accepts his word unhesitatingly.Jerry finally returns to Ben’s place and under questioning from Ben admits that he robbed the store,explaining that he has debts. Ben is now in a quandary,as he feels he must protect his brother but doesn’t want to be unfair to Hope. He tries to ease the situation by withdrawing $185 from the joint checking account he opened with Hope and repaying the delicatessen owner. He then sends Jerry out of town to stay with a friend. His relief at having solved the problem is short-lived, however, when Mike informs him that, despite the reparations, the robbery was a felony and the police will continue to investigate. Hope is badly upset to learn while making a deposit that Ben withdrew’a sum which Mike tells her is equal to the amount stolen. This shakes her belief that he _was really home when she called, and she goes to him, asking for an answer to put her mind at rest. Ben can’t betray Jerry and asks Hope to trust him, promising she will have the whole story eventually. But Hope can’t accept this; she needs complete honesty and openness in her relationship and without it cannot goon. She painfully tells her father that the wedding is off despite her love for Ben, and tells Bert to stop preparations. Mike goes to Ben, reminding him that half the money in the account is Hope’s and she has the right to an answer. But Ben won’t say any more and refuses Mike’s offer to represent him legally, again stating that he doesn’t need a lawyer, because he’s done nothing wrong.     
    • And not since. I recall it was quite small for a house that size. And I don't know why you would walk down a narrow corridor to get to the main living area. I hate when the sets on soaps don't have a logical layout! As for Andre his clothing is fashion forward and suitable for his character.He ain't gonna wear no blazer!
    • The last I remember seeing Ben, he was divorcing Amanda. He came to tell Evie that he still loved her, but was leaving town so that Amanda wouldn't blame Evie for his divorcing her. I'm not exactly sure when, but Evie doesn't leave town until sometime after Nola and Quint's engagement ball. I'm not sure if she leaves before or after Justin leaves in Sept(?) of '83. I grew to like Helena when she became friends with Vanessa, once she's edging her way out of Quint's life.
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    • It sure was!  With respect, how does that make sense?  These men are young, I don't see that. 
    • I hope this played better than it sounds, because I'm imagining two separate scenes (the attack by Arnie, and later Charles getting shot). In my mind, it should have been a fluid single sequence. I wonder if or how often "bastard" was uttered in this scene. Fare thee well, Christopher Reeve. I've said it before, but pop culture's gain was daytime's definite loss. Imagine seeing HIM day after day, year after year, decade after decade, conceivably until they stopped producing soaps in NYC.   Well, that answers my "bastard" question. Good lord, the roads of Rosehill are packed with high-strung drivers and/or pedestrians. More sequences that I hope played better than they sound.

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    • I think Ben had already left while under Marland and only returned briefly to reconcile with Eve. The whole thing confuses me as I thought for a long time that Eve left the show to go be with him and that was when they reconciled, but it seems like he returned, they got back together, then he left and maybe they were still together until she left to join him? I have no idea.  It does seem like the interim writers were using some characters like Justin and Helena who were quickly dumped under Kobe/Long, which is a shame. Helena is one of those characters who likely always had a shelf life but Rose Alaio was such a vibrant screen presence, if Kobe/Long had just been patient, she likely would have fit in well in the Reva era.
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