Trump was never going to repeal Obamacare and neither would any of the other Republican candidates had they been elected. Republicans have slowly backed away from the whole repeal argument because Obamacare has become a part of the norm despite the issues with premiums rising. Trump's main goal in office will be about creating power and financial opportunities for himself. He's made an idiot out of a lot of voters.

I think they are hoping to slowly choke the life out of Obamacare, which is what has been happening in the last few years. 

 

Then there is, as mentioned elsewhere in the thread, how quick they will go to try to gut Medicare/Social Security - a longtime passion of Paul Ryan and his Ayn Rand loving ways. I bet he wishes he hadn't burned himself so badly with Trump and his cronies. 

First of all, the parts of Obamacare that Trump says he likes (after dismissing the entire program as a disaster) are non-budgetary, as the article states; and they are, in fact, included in Paul Ryan's "You're Gonna Love Tomorrow!" alternative (or whatever the hell he calls it).  Second, he only said he would CONSIDER keeping them.  To me, that isn't the same as, "I'm gonna do it!  It's done!".  IOW, I'll take the wait-and-see approach.

 

2 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

His constituents are gonna go bananas, and I am gonna sit here and crack up. Sane people have been trying to tell this right-wing nuts that Trump is a longtime Democrat and Nationalist.

 

Remember the meme that went around for awhile, quoting Trump (from the '80's) as saying that if he were to run for President, he would do so as a Republican, because (I'm paraphrasing) their voters are gullible?  That's what came into my mind when I read this, NBA.

 

Listen, if Trump has been a Democrat or Nationalist in Republican's clothing this entire time, then somebody hand him an Academy Award.  But even if that were true, just think about the hell he has unleashed in the name of sneaking an agenda past white, working-class citizens.  Either way, he has begun something that even he will be unable to contain.

Edited November 12, 20169 yr by Khan

These "incidents" are just multiplying. All the racists have just become emboldened. It's ridiculous!

 

4 hours ago, marceline said:

 

How could it be worse for the Dems than what we have?

 

I stand corrected.

17 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

He's made an idiot out of a lot of voters.

 

Pardon me if I don't feel the least bit sorry for them.  I'm sorry for those who didn't vote for him and will suffer.  But the others...?  Well, maybe you gotta burn your hand before you realize not to touch the stove.

29 minutes ago, Khan said:

Remember the meme that went around for awhile, quoting Trump (from the '80's) as saying that if he were to run for President, he would do so as a Republican, because (I'm paraphrasing) their voters are gullible?  That's what came into my mind when I read this, NBA.

 

Listen, if Trump has been a Democrat or Nationalist in Republican's clothing this entire time, then somebody hand him an Academy Award.  But even if that were true, just think about the hell he has unleashed in the name of sneaking an agenda past white, working-class citizens.  Either way, he has begun something that even he will be unable to contain.

 

Oh that same meme, Trump voters were denouncing but now that see that, that exact meme clearly holds some truth to it. 

 

Trump is a performer. Bamboozling these people was a cakewalk for him. He's built an empire off of manipulating and robbing little people. Hillary and the Democrats brought out a plethora of Trump workers to back their claims. The people that voted for him ignored the facts and pleas and now they are gonna suffer. 

 

 

25 minutes ago, Khan said:

Pardon me if I don't feel the least bit sorry for them.  I'm sorry for those who didn't vote for him and will suffer.  But the others...?  Well, maybe you gotta burn your hand before you realize not to touch the stove.

 

Why should you? We've 'libertards' (as they love to refer to us as) warned them from the start that Trump is snake oil salesman. Now they are gonna suffer the most. Minorities aren't gonna suffer b/c all of us know how to survive and hustle. We have from the start. It is middle and working class White families that are gonna struggle b/c they were sold a dream that won't come to fruition. This is what happens when people don't do research and listen to what they wanna hear. 

Sad! And disturbing, from this NYT profile:

 

Returning home to Trump Tower from the White House may not be Mr. Trump’s only embrace of the familiar. His aides say he has also expressed interest in continuing to hold the large rallies that were a staple of his candidacy. He likes the instant gratification and adulation that the cheering crowds provide, and his aides are discussing how they might accommodate his demand.

That sent a chill up my spine. 

 

As awful as it is, at least I can laugh at Trump's people giving Christie one last kick in the ass, after spending a year making it an artform. Apparently he prosecuted Jared Kushner's father. I wonder if this year of ritual humiliation was by design. 

The meager good news so far is: As we know, Trump never wanted to be President. He only wanted the adulation and rallies. Having the job shocks him, and he will be miserable. If he isn't already.

11 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That sent a chill up my spine. 

 

As awful as it is, at least I can laugh at Trump's people giving Christie one last kick in the ass, after spending a year making it an artform. Apparently he prosecuted Jared Kushner's father. I wonder if this year of ritual humiliation was by design. 

 

I wouldn't count Christie out quite yet. I live in NJ and work for a local university. We're hearing rumblings that he may be up for Secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor with the goal to bust unions. Not sure if it's true, but the source is highly reliable.

Trump "is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House." https://t.co/6aOoSLPLvv

— Elizabeth Holmes (@EHolmesWSJ) November 12, 2016

 

LOL. He's probably going to be flying back and forth from Mar-a-Lago to the WH. He's not going to live there. This is going to be a part time job for him.

Edited November 12, 20169 yr by DramatistDreamer

14 minutes ago, robbwolff said:

 

I wouldn't count Christie out quite yet. I live in NJ and work for a local university. We're hearing rumblings that he may be up for Secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor with the goal to bust unions. Not sure if it's true, but the source is highly reliable.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I guess that's about what we should expect. I would say Bridgegate investigations will keep him out but clearly Trump doesn't care about investigations...

6 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

LOL. He's probably going to be flying back and forth from Mar-a-Lago to the WH. He's not going to live there. This is going to be a part time job for him.

 

Why do I find this so damn funny?

7 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

 

LOL. He's probably going to be flying back and forth from Mar-a-Lago to the WH. He's not going to live there. This is going to be a part time job for him.

 

He'll probably pop in once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if he only holds press conferences at his resort, never at the WH, so he can shill products. 

8 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Why do I find this so damn funny?

I don't know, but I do too.  Over the last couple of days I've broken into uncontrollable laughter a few times (once I stopped crying). It's the sheer absurdity of it all. No doubt Trump will stop in a the white house a couple of times a month to check on the progress his minions are making.