3 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Believe me I'm disgusted my home state is now fully red. I couldn't go anywhere last year without seeing TRUMP signs everywhere. My state is a dumpster fire

We STILL can't go anywhere without seeing T**** signs and flags. Sickening. 😡😡😡😡😡

Yep still seeing some. but a lot finally got rid of them after the election LOL. 

I'm so ready to move from Ohio if I could afford it I would

More subpoenas...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/08/politics/january-6-committee-subpoenas/index.html

^ part 1 of 3

 

^ part 2 of 3

 

^ part 3 of 3

 

Adam Schiff on Steven Colbert, October 18, 2021.
This is from more than 2 weeks ago, but still worth watching.

Edited November 8, 20214 yr by janea4old

He's also scheduled to be on The View tomorrow.

I very much applaud the work of the January 6 committee, but I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that Trump will never be brought to justice for his criminal behavior that day or for anything else. I really, really had high hopes that Trump would get his comeuppance when the Muller report was released, yet Trump emerged unscathed. Yes, that was the fault of cowardly Republicans, but it still doesn't erase my anger at Trump's perceived ability to seemingly get away with anything (and my pessimism about things going forward).

This may be an absurd belief, but I do think that apart from his GOP sycophants, Trump won't be brought to justice because it would be too "traumatic" (for a good deal of Americans) to have a former president go to prison. Having a former president face that kind of punishment is a far different matter than if we were talking about former vice presidents, governors, or members of Congress.

Obviously, I hope that I am wrong in what I just wrote, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

14 hours ago, Max said:

I very much applaud the work of the January 6 committee, but I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that Trump will never be brought to justice for his criminal behavior that day or for anything else. I really, really had high hopes that Trump would get his comeuppance when the Muller report was released, yet Trump emerged unscathed. Yes, that was the fault of cowardly Republicans, but it still doesn't erase my anger at Trump's perceived ability to seemingly get away with anything (and my pessimism about things going forward).

This may be an absurd belief, but I do think that apart from his GOP sycophants, Trump won't be brought to justice because it would be too "traumatic" (for a good deal of Americans) to have a former president go to prison. Having a former president face that kind of punishment is a far different matter than if we were talking about former vice presidents, governors, or members of Congress.

Obviously, I hope that I am wrong in what I just wrote, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Yeah, I feel much the same way. 

Edited November 9, 20214 yr by amybrickwallace

Excuse me, but why is this guy still in Congress???? 😡😡😡😡😡

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axios.com/paul-gosar-video-biden-aoc-eb86d39f-8823-4704-8f21-82eeed3b58e6.html 

 

He currently holds the most Republican congressional district in Arizona so that's why he's still in Congress. Although redistricting has changed the map a lot and Gosar might be in some trouble in the future if he continues to go this far. The Native American reservations and liberal Flagstaff have been have been added to his district.

On 11/8/2021 at 5:57 AM, Cat said:

 

Exactly this. This particular government, for all its educational credentials (Eton, Oxbridge) is mediocre, lazy and has zero imagination or ideas. It has no vision beyond 'I wanna stay in power for the foreseeable future.' So they trot out Brexit talking points because for the base, Brexit is the emotional touchstone which goes beyond mere policy. And in their mind's eye, they are giving Johnny Foreigner a kicking -- it makes them feel good about their own lives. The government has no other policies except to erode those institutions which put a check on its power and bribe-taking.

They have learned the Trump culture-war lesson well. I'd like to think this latest accumulation of mess -- Brexit shortages, fuel & heat prices, Tory corruption -- is finally going to chip at potential voters to the point where they cannot stand seeing them anymore. But the fact is, many voters have their own reasons for keeping this sorry bunch in power, and will take pretty much any indignity as a result.

The other problem is that the opposition has been utterly neutered, so no viable alternatives to the National Brexit 'Conservative' Party. This is a problem befalling many Socialist parties in Europe, which have seen their voter share drop to single-digits. The difference is that, in parts of Europe, the Green party has filled the left-wing void. Not so in the UK. At least, not yet.

Also attn: @OzFrog, speaking of the effects of Brexit being done, I just came across this article. Very interesting and not unexpected. You can tap and read from this link without restrictions, as I discovered.

#Brexit - what the rest of the world is seeinghttps://t.co/kSvJ3j2FGh

— Natalie Bennett (@natalieben) November 9, 2021

Edited November 9, 20214 yr by DramatistDreamer

37 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Also attn: @OzFrog, speaking of the effects of Brexit being done, I just came across this article. Very interesting and not unexpected. You can tap and read from this link without restrictions, as I discovered.

#Brexit - what the rest of the world is seeinghttps://t.co/kSvJ3j2FGh

— Natalie Bennett (@natalieben) November 9, 2021

That is very interesting, and some days I dream of bolting from Brexit Island to start anew somewhere else, where the politics and populism and point-scoring don't detract as much from the already-difficult task of making a living!

The skills/brain drain is for sure already happening (happened?), but by the time Britain acknowledges the extent of how much it harms the country, it will be many years passed. Brexit is, in some ways, like MAGA for some people here. They bought the T-shirt, the baseball cap, stuck the 'Brexit Means Brexit' poster in their front yard. They are All In. And once you go All In on an ideology, it's like a cult or the mafia. You can't All Out. You have staked your social circle, your lifestyle, your personality, your soul on this thing. 

There was an interview with Mark Gatiss, a remainer, recently. He said some things which kind of summed up the remainer's feelings about England and Brexit: 

Quote

“I’m currently very, very ashamed of being English, but I love what I think it represents, or used to,” he says. “The most terrible thing about Brexit is we always had a hard-won and very fair reputation for being amateurish, but basically decent. In a tight corner, you knew where you were with us. And I think that’s been ripped away. It’s like a mask has dropped, exposing this horrible snarling, sneering, angry, jealous face.”

“Why do people cry when they see [Jez Butterworth’s 2009 play] Jerusalem?” asks Gatiss. “It’s the same things – sentiment and tradition – but very muddled up and weaponised against everyone else.” [.....] He’s outraged that “this simple thing, freedom of movement, is being torn away from the next generation by jealous old people. That’s a real horror movie. It’s the revenge of the dead.”

 

Edited November 9, 20214 yr by Cat

10 hours ago, ReddFoxx said:

He currently holds the most Republican congressional district in Arizona so that's why he's still in Congress. Although redistricting has changed the map a lot and Gosar might be in some trouble in the future if he continues to go this far. The Native American reservations and liberal Flagstaff have been have been added to his district.

No, I mean why isn't he being (at the very least) censured?

 

I should add, that poll is also pre-Infrastructure Week(end).

Cleland was a war hero who was smeared in 2002 by media darlings like Ann Coulter, and the campaign ops involving current "reasonable" Republicans who litter cable news and Twitter. Never forget that hate and bigotry ran the GOP long before Trump arrived, or how much they hate all of us. 

Edited November 9, 20214 yr by DRW50

I wish I could believe that there would be accountability here. 😭

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/the-jolt-fulton-grand-jury-likely-in-trump-election-interference-case/3EHEFEORSRE63CKI3OMZ6F62KM/%3foutputType=amp