18 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

As a Canadian, this is what concerns me most. The sheer mass volume of American citizens who voted for all of that when they had another choice is incredibly disturbing. That this election is as tight as it is, based on Trump's cult of personality, when he has been an absolute failure, is unbelievable to me. 

 

That white America did not do the right thing and vote his ass out hard is also very disappointing. I had hoped for better. This is not an election about differing views like McCain v. Obama or Bush v. Gore. This election is truly about good and moral vs. evil and corrupt. It is astounding to see how many people have aligned with Trump's malignancy. 

 

Trump is the ugly, fat face of a longstanding problem. I grew up seeing the Clinton Death List hysterics and Rush Limbaugh calling Chelsea Clinton a dog on national television. Then I had to see the 2004 campaign which ran on laws that would have meant gay couples could not even have hospital visitation rights, alongside vicious smear campaigns against Vietnam veterans, including a 2002 series of ads which would morph the faces of veterans into terrorists. And of course the Iraq invasion, which got to the point where we were so desperate to bully other countries for not supporting our warmongering that we could no longer even use the term "French fries." 

 

I think Obama's electoral success masked just how desiccated much of America is. 

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by DRW50

LOL, good luck:

 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Vee said:

If all you're going to do is quote other people's posts with next to nothing to add, don't.

 

 

Well, I could be shady, but you have that down for now thank you.

 

Not all of us are minute to minute while we are surviving. You don't like it, I think you have found the block button by this point.  

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by Taoboi

Just now, Taoboi said:

Well, I could be shady, but you have that done for now thank you.

 

Not all of us are minute to minute while we are surviving. You don't like it, I think you have found the block button by this point.  

 

It doesn't just apply to you, but that's an actual message in the reply so I'll take it.

 

They've got the whole Trump apparatus out there proclaiming victory in PA, including McEnany. Not gonna work IMO, given how even Fox strongly pushed back on Trump claiming victory last night on-air.

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

As a Canadian, this is what concerns me most. The sheer mass volume of American citizens who voted for all of that when they had another choice is incredibly disturbing. That this election is as tight as it is, based on Trump's cult of personality, when he has been an absolute failure, is unbelievable to me. 

 

That white America did not do the right thing and vote his ass out hard is also very disappointing. I had hoped for better. This is not an election about differing views like McCain v. Obama or Bush v. Gore. This election is truly about good and moral vs. evil and corrupt. It is astounding to see how many people have aligned with Trump's malignancy. 

Yes, just checking in from time to time today, this has been greatly discouraging for sure. Hopefully when everything is said and done, we can (and will) be able to move forward. 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

It doesn't just apply to you, but that's an actual message in the reply so I'll take it.

 

They've got the whole Trump apparatus out there proclaiming victory in PA, including McEnany. Not gonna work IMO, given how even Fox strongly pushed back on Trump claiming victory last night on-air.

 

 

 

Indeed. Moving on then. 

 

Nice to see everything nearing a conclusion of sorts, cautiously optimistic. 

 

1 hour ago, Toups said:

Yes! Wisconsin! So Biden just needs two out of PA, Nevada, Michigan, Georgia and NC, right?  

Or Arizona. But actually in some cases I think he may need two or three:

For example, I think he would need Michigan, Arizona and Nevada if he doesn’t get PA, NC or GA.  I think there are many different combos in which he would need 2 or 3 more.  

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by Darcy

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

 

Democrats need to come rolling up in this mess ready to throw down. These folks need an ass-whooping.

 

 

 

Joe wisely basically giving a victory speech.

Boom.