1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

I see what you're saying, but McConnell and Mark Meadows have been trying to shut down any relief talks for a while, haven't they? McConnell has seemingly just only cared about getting Amy Covid Barrett and other judges through, nothing else. 

 

They haven't really been trying to shut them down. The news is such a whirlwind that so much gets lost but they were still negotiating a COVID relief package right up until RBG died. That was the game-changer and even then Meadows and Mnuchin were still approaching Pelosi a few days ago but Trump just blew all that up.

 

But I honestly suspect that in a day or two Trump will reverse himself the way he always does. He's weak, losing, and very likely dying. He's only going to get more erratic and destructive. 

 

They're not going to get that SCOTUS seat before the election at this rate, and even if they did they're likely not going to have a margin for it to steal it in the courts. The latter is simply not going to happen. If people want to believe that with a landslide or even a very strong win from Dems that Trump can still manage to take the election to the courts and win, they can, but it's not reality.

 

Trump is not running a plan with McConnell. McConnell had nothing to do with this. Trump blew this up solo. Like Nancy, I blame the roids.

 

 

Just now, marceline said:

But I honestly suspect that in a day or two Trump will reverse himself the way he always does. 

 

I agree.

 

And now:

 

 

 

More in Trump's orbit have tested positive for COVID-19 than ALL OF TAIWAN:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/10/06/trump-white-house-more-coronavirus-cases-than-taiwan/#comments-wrapper

The debate committee or whoever is in charge needs to go on ahead and cancel the VP debate, in light of recent developments. Miller's diagnosis after five days is proof positive. Pun intended.

 

36 minutes ago, Vee said:

They're not going to get that SCOTUS seat before the election at this rate, and even if they did they're likely not going to have a margin for it to steal it in the courts.

 

I've considered Barrett's confirmation a done deal but I have to say that I'm beginning to wonder if they can pull it off. Especially if the virus takes hold with the Judiciary Committee. Lee and Tillis are already infected. Grassley refuses to get tested which mean he's very likely infected, and Cornyn is every so gently separating himself from Trump.

 

We're in uncharted territory now but I feel better about this race than I have since Bernie dropped out in April.

 

9 minutes ago, marceline said:

I've considered Barrett's confirmation a done deal but I have to say that I'm beginning to wonder if they can pull it off.

 

Oh, I think they'll get it eventually before 2021. But who knows how many of them will suffer or die in the process. We'll make them bleed for it. I just don't believe at this point it will be done by the election.

 

I've felt good about the race for a long while now, but this is well beyond.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Vee

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, janea4old said:

 

 

😂😂😂😂😂

I knew it. I knew it.

 

It's a sick game designed to give Biden and Democrats in the next Congress the worst possible hand, blaming them for Trump's failed economy and all of the people who are suffering and dying and will continue to suffer and die until January. 

 

McConnell gets endless gushing and fawning for how brilliant and clever he is, and why can't Democrats be like him, and so on, but this is why. He is a monster. He is murdering thousands and thousands of people, killing them in cold blood.

 

 

It wasn't a scheme between them, is the whole point, which is what you suggested before. It's not that; it's the 2009 strategy again. McConnell knows Trump will lose so he blows up the talks. Run the country into the ground, then blame Biden. That's his only game now.

 

 

 

That said, I'm not convinced this is the end of it. Trump has shít the bed for McConnell's plans before out of desperate self-preservation. He has no interest in helping the party, only himself. If he freaks out over the Dow he could blow this ploy up before November, too.

Edited October 7, 20205 yr by Vee

3 minutes ago, Vee said:

It wasn't a scheme between them, is the whole point, which is what you suggested before. It's not that; it's the 2009 strategy again. McConnell knows Trump will lose so he blows up the talks. Run the country into the ground, then blame Biden. That's his only game now.

 

That's pretty much what I said before, that McConnell was doing this to replay what they did to Obama. I don't think we were in disagreement. Where we disagreed was the idea that Trump was just doing this on his own because of mood swings or what have you.