The Politics Thread

[Vee]

 

Meanwhile, with Old Boy Champ cameo:

 

 

[DRW50]

I don't know if Alberta intended to make her look good or not but it really doesn't. 

[Vee]

The reason for the full court press of stories in Politico about people like Sinema, the conflicted Nikki Haley, etc. is because Politico is and always has been first and foremost a GOP-aligned outlet run by former Young Republicans. If they highlight the alleged principled beliefs of Haley or bipartisan comity of Sinema who could, hypothetically, handicap progressive or Democratic plans, that is a part of a sustained push towards a result. They run these stories trying to push a narrative, sometimes it succeeds and other times it fails. Most of the time their favorite narrative is 'Dems in disarray,' 'not so fast, Dems' or 'Dems might fail'. Other times it's 'look at this fair minded Democrat' like Sinema, who of course wants to give back all power to Republicans. They are tripling down atm because Biden seems to show little interest in kowtowing to Republicans.

 

Everything Politico does is aligned with the GOP. But not all of it is reality. It is an outlet trying to manufacture narrative to favor the GOP to create an actionable reality, and it is not as real as they like to pretend.

[DRW50]

 

Oh I agree with you there. I just thought the story made Haley look thin-skinned and extremely insincere. I'll admit that I can't stand her so I may be biased. 

[Vee]

 

Meanwhile:

 

 

[JaneAusten]

After watching the current GOP and the fact the are still boldly behind a guy who tried to destroy American democracy - much of the party that could care less about democracy - this is the nonsense we get from Sinema. She's worse than Manchin. She lives in a swing state. He lives in a ruby red state.

 

The most influential Democrat you never hear from - POLITICO

[DramatistDreamer]

Stacey Abrams and her former campaign manager would like to tell everyone who believes that the results of the Georgia elections were all about Trump, "No they're not. It was as a result of a decade plus grassroots and statewide efforts , and here are the receipts.

As well as how other states can replicate this, with their own modifications.

 

[Khan]

Seriously, wtf are Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema doing serving as Democrats!?

[DRW50]

 

In terms of the Senate, Manchin was the Democratic Party not that long ago - things have really changed in the last ten years. That's also why I don't believe he will switch parties, as he probably had his best chance to do so during the Trump years anyway. 

 

Sinema I am less sure of. She used to be a Green and has slowly refashioned herself for political gain. If she switches I won't be bowled over. Right now she likely won't because of how her state is trending and because she would lose a primary, 100%. 

 

This type of head-patting for "independence" angers me because this is the worst possible time for the party to have to be beholden to this type of prima donna. If voting reforms are not passed immediately, we are likely locked into a decade or more of fascism and carnage.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/02/democrats-need-hr-1-and-new-vra-protect-party/617987/

Edited February 12, 2021 by DRW50

[Vee]

Politico and outlets are pushing stories like this and desperate to swing the balance of power to Sinema, etc. because many of them and their owners are center-right. They believe Republicans are there to make savvy policy and Democrats are there to bend the knee and meet them halfway. If Joe can keep operating the way he is that will not leave them much oxygen. That's why they're now pivoting to fawning stories about Sinema, after Manchin failed to get much purchase in the relief deal.

Edited February 12, 2021 by Vee

[JaneAusten]

It did. I can't stand Tim Alberta but I thought this story in particular was decent and showed exactly who Nikki Haley is.

[victoria foxton]

 

   

[Vee]

Meanwhile, in the impeachment trial:

 

 

[Khan]

So, we're back to being called "Negroes"?

 

"It was in the '60's."

 

Well, then, let's keep it there, shall we?

[Taoboi]

That's their defense? Again?

 

John Fugelsang on Twitter: "Go ahead and make Madonna jokes, but if Madge told lies that led to 7 people getting killed at least she'd be able to afford a real defense team." / Twitter