The Politics Thread

[janea4old]

 

 

 

 

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Article from ctv.ca (a television network in Canada)

Experts observe that police response to Trump rioters and BLM protesters was different as night and day.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/police-response-to-trump-rioters-and-blm-night-and-day-experts-1.5256386

 

 

 

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^ New live press conference with Mayor of Washington DC, police officials, etc

Edited January 7, 2021 by janea4old

[Khan]

 

No, Patty and Cathy were as different as night and day.  How the police responded today as opposed to how they responded to last summer's riots just proved why POC finally had had enough and got out the damn votes.

[Vee]

 

[DramatistDreamer]

Again, I ask whether people still believe there are no ways to cut off Trump's (or someone like him) pathways to try to run again? The US will not survive another like him.

 

[Vee]

 

Joint session time.

 

Collins is on CNN saying Trump is only listening to Rudy, Sidney Powell, etc. now. Also says this is what has set off talk of removal and the 25th "in earnest".

Edited January 7, 2021 by Vee

[Khan]

And remember, folks, we all needed to be scared of President Ooga Booga, because he was a-comin' for our guns (and our white women).

[Faulkner]

 

[ChateauCardboard]

And to think I was so hopeful when I woke up this morning. Dems had taken the Senate. McConnell was suffering. Only 2 weeks to go until that rancid yam was gone. I knew the MAGAt rally was happening but I assumed the police would shut it down rather than, you know, open the frigging doors and let them in. And after all of that it looks like nothing is going to happen to Trump save for a few angry speeches and the resignation of the party planning committee. He needs to go. Not just for him but so the next facist down the road doesn't look at this and realise nobody reacts and they can do whatever they want.

[janea4old]

The joint meeting of House and Senate go through all the states,
to accept the electoral college votes from each state.
Each state is considered, one at a time, alphabetically.

They had accepted Alabama and Alaska.

 

Then there were objections to Arizona.

There were objections from both Representatives and Senators.

Therefore, per procedure, the House and Senate split into separate chambers to discuss and vote on Arizona.

Then the mob attacked the Capitol Building and they had to stop.

A few hours later, both chambers resumed sessions.
 

Both chambers continued separately discussing and voting on Arizona.

The Senate finished first, and they voted to NOT accept the objection.
The House then finished and voted to NOT accept the objection.

 

Both Senate and House then convened together. 
Then they went on to the next state alphabetically

and counted those votes and voted to certify, one state at a time. 
The next several states alphabetically were all accepted without objections.

 

When they got to Georgia, Representatives objected.
Then it was asked if any Senators objected. 
The representatives said there had been a Senator ready to object to Georgia, but after the mob attack they no longer had a Senator to willing to object to Georgia.

For an objection to be considered, there must be both a Rep and a Senator. 

Because they didn't have that, so Georgia was accepted

 

They continued with the states alphabetically.

No objections to any of the next several states so all were accepted

-- until they got to Michigan.

 

The same thing happened with Michigan as with Georgia.

(Representatives objected but no Senator objected). So Michigan was accepted.

 

Continuing with states alphabetically.

All accepted until they got to Nevada. 
Same thing happened with Nevada as with Georgia and Michigan.

(Representatives objected but no Senator objected). So Nevada was accepted.

 

Continuing with states alphabetically.

All accepted until they got to Pennsylvania.

There were Representatives and a Senator (Josh Hawley) who objected to Pennsylvania.

 

So now they are doing what they did with Arizona.

 

The House and Senate are going into separate chambers.

The House and Senate will work simultaneously and separately.
Each chamber will discuss the objection to Pennsylvania's electoral votes.

They allow up to two hours for debate, per the constitution.

Then each chamber will vote on the objection to Pennsylvania.

(We know they don't have enough votes -- but they have to do this now, per procedure.)

 

After both chambers vote on the objection to Pennsylvania,

then they all reconvene together (both House and Senate in one room),

where they will announce how the House voted on the objection, and how the Senate voted on the objection.

(We know obviously that the objection won't win, so Pennsylvania will be accepted.).

 

Then the joint Senate and House session will go on to the next state alphabetically.

After Pennsylvania alphabetically, it's not known if there will be objections to any other states.  At this point, the only possibility would be Wisconsin.

 

 

Edited January 7, 2021 by janea4old

[Khan]

I think the part that REALLY gets me is how the numbskulls clearly stormed the Capitol today with no plan beyond getting past the barricades. They didn't remove all of Congress from the building by force or hold them hostage; they didn't establish a new government; they didn't even send out a list of demands. They just broke in, tossed around some papers, took a few selfies, ripped off a bunch of mementos and then went back outside. Like, how is that supposed to reclaim "your" government from us crooked libtards, boo?

Edited January 7, 2021 by Khan

[amybrickwallace]

@janea4old, thanks for breaking it all down. Yesterday feels like 10 years ago!!!

[Khan]

So, of course, Matt Gaetz once again lived down to expectations, blaming (without any damn proof) Antifa for the violence on the House floor.  Honestly, it's gonna take several lifetimes to rid Congress of all these jackholes.

[janea4old]

That's great. The Senate convened. Agreed to suspend the two hours of debate they're allowed to have. And voted.

Nay votes mean: opposed the objection.

Yea votes mean: agreed with the objection.

Therefore the Senate rejects the objection to the Pennsylvania electoral votes.

 

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MEANWHILE, the House is still discussing, each person is giving a speech.  They could go on for a while before they vote.

Edited January 7, 2021 by janea4old

[janea4old]

 

[janea4old]

 

^ full story:
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/01/07/conor-lamb-pa-vote-objection-floor-speech/

 

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The House and Senate reconvened in joint session and both officially reported that they had "rejected the objection" to Pennsylvania's electoral college votes.
Pennsylvania now accepted.

 

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The joint House/Senate session is now going through the remaining states in alphabetical order.

Edited January 7, 2021 by janea4old