The Politics Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

[Roman]

first day. first witness. He's done. Trump better resign.

[Vee]

 

 

 

 

[DramatistDreamer]

TBH, I haven't had much time to watch the livestream but on a break, I did catch a glimpse of Reince Priebus trying to spin basic facts away.  He just looks so pathetic.

[Roman]

every republican looks foolish.

[Wendy]

Thankfully, my state - and all but one of my state senators (I think, there could be one more, maybe) - are Dems. But the lone (?) Republican, Elise Stefanik, also was in lockstep with the criminal cabal that is the GOP and was a huge bitch. Because, naturally. I guess it is only okay to impeach Democratic presidents that lie about consensual sex.

 

But extortion for aid? Digging up dirt on political rivals? (Illegal any way you look at it...) "A sham impeachment!" the GOP rages. Why, that's "undermining the president".

 

The GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs and become extinct. They are an enemy political party of democracy now.

Edited November 13, 2019 by Wendy

[Khan]

 

Or Democratic presidents who have the audacity to be half-African-American.

[DRW50]

 

Stefanik is one of those who gets gushing press because of lip service about wanting to bring women into the GOP. We see how well that is going. 

 

The media and the GOP have already set the narrative and have declared victory for Trump. I am just hoping the Democrats will somehow scrape through next November. 

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Speaking of another African-American running for president, I hear now that former governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick has decided to run.  Whew, Elizabeth Warren can't be pleased about this.

[DRW50]

I think it's going to affect the moderates more than her, I guess aside from Pete Buttigieg, who has mostly white support. If Biden keeps falling apart then I could see Patrick benefiting (at least if he'd entered a few months ago). If Biden doesn't fall apart further then I think Patrick's arrival will help shore him up. 

[DramatistDreamer]

I think Patrick's very lucrative association with Bain Capital could be a big problem for him. 

I mention that because Bain Capital is venture (some would say "vulture") capital firm that is not so much known as a 'turnaround company' as it is best known for stripping struggling companies for parts and making profit from the process.   It's not about making corporate speeches or anything like that.  Bain Capital did Romney no favors during his presidential bid, and I foresee it being a similar, if not larger problem for Patrick in his run. 

People talk about Obama the centrist but Obama came out of public advocacy, not the corporate world. 

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Is it any wonder why people can't take Politico seriously?

 

[DRW50]

 

I'm not too sure they're wrong in this instance, although I lean closer to thinking the heart attack didn't change anything. 

[DramatistDreamer]

CNN doesn't want to be left out, of course.

 

And then there is the NYT.

 

Geez, what if all these publications had given that same energy with printing articles that pushed back on the narrative being built about Hillary's e-mails?  We might be in a different (better) place right now?

[DRW50]

The heart attack made him even more of a martyr, and allowed his supporters like AOC to be openly cultish with less blowback. It is also a boon for the media, who do not like or trust Warren and are fonder of Sanders (likely because they know he won't keep his promises - Warren probably will).