16 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I hope you're not talking about that bollocks article by Maggie Haberman about the dozen Democratic donors, @DRW50 because I'd have to agree with the sentiments expressed by others. IMO, it is too damn early to be hand-wringing and making these prognostications.  Also, it's damaging psychically.  Primary voting hasn't even begun, whatever happened to waiting until the first rounds to see how this unfolds?  I don't get this type of thinking. 

 

There's certainly still time for someone back in the pack to surprise us. My concerns about Warren, Sanders and Biden aren't new - I've said them for months, and they probably aren't going to go away. Whoever gets the nomination will have my vote, and if possible, my money, and I hope that whoever gets the nomination wins, but I just can't shake my unhappiness about the state of the race. After 2004 and 2016, I'm past the point where I'm able to tell myself things will be fine - I'm in a place where I just muddle through. I'm not implying you are somehow telling yourself things will be fine, in case my comments come across that way, I'm just talking about myself. If my comments are causing you pain then I will try to phrase them in a way that won't - or you can put me on ignore (not that you need my permission to be put on ignore, obviously) and I will understand. 

 

I agree Taylor's testimony was powerful in its own right, and isn't tainted by Trump's usual tweet rage, so people who aren't distracted will hone in on the real facts. I disagree about the media focus, which does hit people who are more easily distracted, but in the end I guess what the media says doesn't matter either way. Battle lines are hardened about impeachment, and it's just a waiting game until November 2020. 

Just a reminder that NYT is problematic and has had to retract and 'amend' stories that they've done and will likely have to continue to do so.

 

New York Times changes story admitting they misquoted Clinton saying ‘Russians’ were ‘grooming’ Tulsi Gabbard https://t.co/mxlDXhJmKs

— Propane Jane™ (@docrocktex26) October 23, 2019

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

There's certainly still time for someone back in the pack to surprise us. My concerns about Warren, Sanders and Biden aren't new - I've said them for months, and they probably aren't going to go away. Whoever gets the nomination will have my vote, and if possible, my money, and I hope that whoever gets the nomination wins, but I just can't shake my unhappiness about the state of the race.

 

Same. I hate this primary with the heat of a thousand suns. 

Unbelievable. This is a Federal crime.

 

 

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by marceline

Why am I not surprised that fat drunk is the one pushing it. He's from Florida and like someone in the replies said, this is very Florida 2000.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They should have been arrested by Capitol Police for that stunt. 

Interesting thread from the perspective of someone who worked in SCIF.

 

A few words on why Gaetz stunt to storm the SCIF to disrupt Laura Cooper's deposition is a VERY serious national security problem.

Note, I worked in that SCIF for HPSCI and handled cybersecurity issues while there.

— Mieke Eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) October 23, 2019

 

41 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

They should have been arrested by Capitol Police for that stunt. 

 

Agree.  The GOP really doesn't give a damn about the rules of law anymore.  They just do whatever they want, whenever they want, and however they want; and if anybody cries foul, they just cry Hillary/Obama.

 

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Just a reminder that NYT is problematic and has had to retract and 'amend' stories that they've done and will likely have to continue to do so.

 

The media never passes up ANOTHER opportunity to vilify Hillary.  They're as bad as the GOP are in their determination to bring her down at all costs.  Honestly, when will those people just leave her (and Bill, and the Obamas) the hell alone!?

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by Khan

NYT finally gets around to admitting their 'mistake'.  All the news that's fit to print?

 

 

We’ve corrected this article and deleted an earlier tweet that incorrectly described Hillary Clinton’s recent comments from a podcast interview. https://t.co/DKKr3JzcKH

— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) October 23, 2019

Not surprised that drunk f-u-c-kface Matt Gaetz spearheaded the disruption. Not surprised Republicans are now whining about closed doors when that was the ROUTINE procedure when the GOP controlled all three branches. Also not surprised these Republicans brought their electronics into a secured area, which is illegal.

 

But, most of all, I am sadly not surprised that Democrats let these pieces of s-h-i-t get away with it and didn't have the Sergeant at Arms arrest them, which should have been done.

I have my share of issues with AOC, but she crucified the Zuck today.

 

 

 

 

The Office stare at the end of the second clip is gold.

 

Meanwhile:

 

 

 

 

A good piece on who the GOP truly are. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/23/three-years-after-trumps-win-many-republicans-still-feel-like-they-are-losing-side-america/

 

The Trump administration continues to take "L"s at the hands of the courts.

 

NEW: In what could be major defeat for Trump admin., D.C. district judge orders State to turn over Ukraine-related documents to @weareoversight, a watchdog group.

It is the first court order in Ukraine investigation.

Trump admin has 30 days to comply.https://t.co/SA8cDEUW6W

— Alexander Nazaryan (@alexnazaryan) October 23, 2019