5 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Now that was a depressing story, especially the part about how TMZ is allowing Trump to reach a younger more diverse audience and patch together a broader coalition. I'm going to hope his awful approval ratings counter this story.

 

TMZ is mostly gossip trash. It's just rancid and not even the pseudo-intelligent cauldron of pretense that the alt types like to stand around. Most of those people are just white noise. It's good for distracting from real issues but in terms of creating any actual movement I'd be surprised if anyone who reads it that often even votes. 

I'll hope for that as well, Julia.  Provided, of course, we survive a nuclear attack from North Korea.

6 minutes ago, Khan said:

I'll hope for that as well, Julia.  Provided, of course, we survive a nuclear attack from North Korea.

This post hit my black humor funny bone. 

 

I'm going to read up more today on the North Korea situation. I imagine they have a small bomb that would hit California, so most of us would survive (cancer rates would obviously go way up), but it would kill millions and screw the world economy.  Then we absolutely would hit back with our full force and kill even more millions. That would probably happen no matter who is in charge, but given 45 and the Republicans are, I wouldn't expect any mercy.  China would stand by and see at least one problem solved, if not two (Can't believe their would be many refugees after Trump is done). Not because I think they really want to see the world economy tank, but if it does they might emerge as the world's economic power in the long term. From what I've read China is much better at taking the long view then we are.

No words.

22 minutes ago, Khan said:

No words.

 

This is just like the Trumpers who made death threats against various theatre companies because of that whole Julius Caesar nonsense. As Jesse Hubbard would say, these folks are stuck on stupid.

24 minutes ago, Khan said:

No words.

 

 

But kudos to the poster who admitted his mistake and didn't delete his tweets. The rest of them probably feel very stupid now, as they should....

When I was in elementary school, we read the Declaration of Independence. We also had to memorize and recite the Preamble for a school assembly.

 

That people wouldn't recognize it strikes me as somewhat unnerving, even more unnerving is that these people vote. Ironically these people are usually the very same ones who want to suppress the rights of others, screaming about 'voter fraud'.

 

Speaking of voting irregularities...

 

Wow! Reported by @AP at NYT - lawsuit for recount of Georgia race due to potential hacking by Russia. https://t.co/KbH9aivd82

— Amy Siskind (@Amy_Siskind) July 5, 2017

Edited July 5, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

52 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

When I was in elementary school, we read the Declaration of Independence. We also had to memorize and recite the Preamble for a school assembly.

 

That people wouldn't recognize it strikes me as somewhat unnerving, even more unnerving is that these people vote. Ironically these people are usually the very same ones who want to suppress the rights of others, screaming about 'voter fraud'.

 

Speaking of voting irregularities...

 

They probably don't in most cases. Never underestimate how uneducated the American public is. Personally I find that comforting from a certain perspective.  We would certainly all be better off if we had a more educated population. However, when I see some of the ignorance coming out of people's mouths, I'm glad to know there is (often) a reason for it other than people are awful.

 

Also, you learned the DI in elementary school  it was probably reinforced many times in your life, both in college and your own reading. Only 25% (or so) of our population graduates college. There is still a sizable amount that doesn't even graduate high school. A lot of these people don't have the time or ability to do extensive reading when they get home from physically demanding jobs. Now I'm off on a tangent, but one of the things I'm most grateful of is the time for intellectual pursuits. It's a luxury not that many people have. 

 

Edited July 5, 20178 yr by Juliajms

The shade! OMG I adore Hillary LMAO. This is the tweet she threw shade at:

 

 

 

I hear ya @Juliajms

Still, I think of my Mom who worked in a factor for over twenty years, got her citizenship in the '90s yet she recognizes the Declaration of Independence and knows the three branches of government. Probably because she had to study the for the citizenship test--I remember quizzing her on questions related to civics.

 

When I used to commute for two hours on a train, I used to see people read, books, even the Bible. I cannot help but think that when people really want to learn about something, there's very little to stop them but the desire has to be there, I guess.

I still can't believe this was an actual tweet. Whining about missing your 4th because of, you know, nuclear war impending. If a Democrat said this there would be nationwide media and GOP calls for their firing.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-north-korea-missiles-independence-day-test-632170

4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I still can't believe this was an actual tweet. Whining about missing your 4th because of, you know, nuclear war impending. If a Democrat said this there would be nationwide media and GOP calls for their firing.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-north-korea-missiles-independence-day-test-632170

 

It never ceases to amaze me how completely clueless some people are.  

Did she even stop to think for a mini-second before tweeting that?

Hillary's shade-tweet is worthy of a "Reading is Fundamental" segment on "RuPaul's Drag Race."

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I hear ya @Juliajms

Still, I think of my Mom who worked in a factor for over twenty years, got her citizenship in the '90s yet she recognizes the Declaration of Independence and knows the three branches of government. Probably because she had to study the for the citizenship test--I remember quizzing her on questions related to civics.

 

When I used to commute for two hours on a train, I used to see people read, books, even the Bible. I cannot help but think that when people really want to learn about something, there's very little to stop them but the desire has to be there, I guess.

I agree up to a point, but intellectual ability plays a part. Also during the summer one year I worked as grocery checker. Might feet hurt so badly after, I was just grateful to rest after work and I was 19. I wasn't in stellar shape, but not terrible either,  I can't imagine what it's like to do that kind of job in middle age, while having family responsibilities as well. Never mind something like working on a road crew or construction. 

 

I'm a little surprised that so many people didn't recognize the DI because you hear it on TV and the movies a fair amount. I'm not surprised that there are so many uninformed or easily manipulated people out there though.

32 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I still can't believe this was an actual tweet. Whining about missing your 4th because of, you know, nuclear war impending. If a Democrat said this there would be nationwide media and GOP calls for their firing.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-north-korea-missiles-independence-day-test-632170

OMG.

4 hours ago, marceline said:

 

This is just like the Trumpers who made death threats against various theatre companies because of that whole Julius Caesar nonsense. As Jesse Hubbard would say, these folks are stuck on stupid.

 

Truthfully, I have not been this gobsmacked by others' ignorance since Sherri Shepherd basically admitted on "The View" that she didn't know that the world was round.  Now, a public education might have its downsides, but....

Edited July 5, 20178 yr by Khan