31 minutes ago, Vee said:

I get enough unfunny juvenile gag picture posts from Soapsuds as is.

So sorry to bother you with my post, after all it's only a  community message board. 

1 hour ago, JaneAusten said:

So I just got back from the rally in Chicago. Mega amazing. 150,000 people. There were people of all ages, colors, genders. People brought their pets, babies, kids and it was a very uplifting event. They had to cancel the actual march because of the unexpectedly large turnout. But much of the crowd elected to march anyway. Only thing that does sadden me a bit is not a lot of black women and I can understand why. We white women have a lot of work to do to earn their trust back and justifiably so. I don't even know if it's possible. Not to say the crowd wasn't diverse, but it was something I observed. But the white women in the crowd were schooled by a 75 year old white woman who was a civil rights activist and worked on the equal rights amendment in the 70's. She rattled off the percentage of European centric Americans who voted for Trump included the 53% of white women. It's obvious it made many in the crowd uncomfortable. She acknowledged it would, that she was pissed about it,  but went on to challenge them and to charge the crowd up again, but especially that group. It's odd to hear me talking in the third person as I am one of them. Not one of the 53% but a white women and know there is more I can do. It feels like such an overwhelming task until you realize the Tea Party started in 2009 and made huge election inroads in 2010.

 

Yeah, I was talking to a few friends about this and we all agreed that even though the we were impressed with the pictures and the parts of the livestream that we did see, that 53% really bothers us because it represents a rift that has been there for a very long time, that began with the Women's Suffrage movement and has persisted. It's the reason why historically many Black women have been slow to embrace the word feminist, many used to choose womanist instead. There is essentially a lack of trust that White women will be there to back Black women when the circumstances are critical. Black women feel very let down by the election results. I admit, I felt very letdown and I still feel pangs of anger about it every now and then, especially when I read some foolishness that comes out of Trump's mouth. I know some immigrant women who are first time voters, who say they will not vote again and doubt the integrity of the "system". I tried to explain how the electoral college works, but even I struggle to explain its relevance in contemporary times. Many times, I just feel drained...still.

I do applaud those women who marched today and I was encouraged to see the images and clips of the various speakers who appeared in DC and the marchers from around the world. 

 

I suspect today's success is what sparked that ridiculous news conference (which I did not see) as Trump's looking for yet another diversion tactic.

Hopefully soon, people will stop falling for these antics.

5 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

 

People do like to watch a trainwreck

 

4 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

Folks are so damn hardheaded. All most people had to do was watch it on a livestream where he wouldn't get a ratings count. 

 

Oh well. At least he's still second to Obama. That'll bother him enough.

 

I stayed well clear of it, and was hoping those I know who hate him would do the same. Instead, they... watched it? I guess the curiosity was too strong.

 

I do think he'll spin this as some sort of huge victory, just like anything else, but he'll know.

I'm guessing most of those people who tuned in yesterday were the "hidden Trump voter", the ones who were too shame-faced to show themselves in public but probably had 'watch parties' at home.

 

I didn't even want to watch the livestream and I feel like my time was well-spent avoiding the entire sh*tshow.

42 minutes ago, Sindacco said:

Isn't that what you want? After all, "war is hell", you enjoy seeing people getting sucker punched.

 

I guess I had that one coming.

 

Generally speaking, I do NOT enjoy seeing people get sucker punched.  But I WOULD be lying if I said my heart didn't leap when I saw it happen to him, for obvious reasons.  It was petty of me to have that reaction, and I make no excuses for it, but that's the truth.

 

As for the "war is hell" comment: that, I'm afraid, was another of my pitiful attempts at humor.  If you or anyone else was offended by the remark, I offer my apologies.

 

I'm not surprised FOB's inauguration yielded high ratings.  I'm upset that it did, but I'm not surprised.

 

Like I said on FB, I love seeing the photos of all the marches...but what do you intend to do next weekend?  Better yet, what are you gonna do tomorrow?  Because you're in this for the long haul, people.  We all are.

Edited January 22, 20178 yr by Khan

41 minutes ago, slick jones said:

So sorry to bother you with my post, after all it's only a  community message board. 

 

Try harder to make it easier to tell you apart.

 

Day 2 is going great. They're already a laughing stock with the media.

Edited January 22, 20178 yr by Vee

NM

Edited January 22, 20178 yr by Khan

58 minutes ago, Sindacco said:

Isn't that what you want? After all, "war is hell", you enjoy seeing people getting sucker punched.

 

Yes, shameful that anyone would punch a white supremacist just as our forefathers did.

1 hour ago, GMac said:

 

Except he was mean spirited.  The man tried his damnedest, and built his campaign around, writing discrimination into the constitution.  

 

His denseness is entertaining, though.  It does make me laugh.

 

 

Yeah - it's easy to forget now that he's been out of the spotlight for so long how petty much of his first term in particular was. 

 

But I think on some level he was a decent human being - the problem is when you surround yourself with people like Karl Rove, that doesn't matter. 

30 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

I guess I had that one coming.

 

Generally speaking, I do NOT enjoy seeing people get sucker punched.  But I WOULD be lying if I said my heart didn't leap when I saw it happen to him, for obvious reasons.  It was petty of me to have that reaction, and I make no excuses for it, but that's the truth.

 

As for the "war is hell" comment: that, I'm afraid, was another of my pitiful attempts at humor.  If you or anyone else was offended by the remark, I offer my apologies.

I wasn't offended. Just tired of the hypocrisy in this thread. People cry about the other side, yet act the same way, sometimes worse.

Just now, Sindacco said:

I wasn't offended. Just tired of the hypocrisy in this thread. People cry about the other side, yet act the same way, sometimes worse.

 

Let us know when and how a Nazi getting punched becomes equivalent to a fraction of the public and private misdeeds of Donald Trump and the alt right.

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Try harder to make it easier to tell you apart.

 

Day 2 is going great. They're already a laughing stock with the media.

 

I caught some of Spicer yelling at the "press conference", it was honestly disturbing.  It's only Day 2 and THIS is the benchmark that this administration wants to set?  Not to mention, Trump going to CIA headquarters and...blaming the media for what HE SAID.  

 

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

Yeah - it's easy to forget now that he's been out of the spotlight for so long how petty much of his first term in particular was. 

 

But I think on some level he was a decent human being - the problem is when you surround yourself with people like Karl Rove, that doesn't matter. 

 

I agree that Rove was probably more responsible for the hate speech than GWB was, but he still took the torch and ran with it.

 

I'd like to think the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and I actually like his dad.  The less said about Jeb the better.

 

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Try harder to make it easier to tell you apart.

 

Day 2 is going great. They're already a laughing stock with the media.

 

The question I have is why the media even cares at this point when there's so much else to worry about. I guess it's all about them, as always. 

10 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Let us know when and how a Nazi getting punched becomes equivalent to a fraction of the public and private misdeeds of Donald Trump and the alt right.

That punch probably was staged. It seems awfully convenient that he got punched while on camera. Staging things isn't uncommon among these sort.

As long as a Nazi gets punched I can only cross so many T's.

 

Meanwhile: Cakegate. Incredible.

Brutal deadpan from @jaketapper re: Trump's obsession with crowd sizes: "I can't think of anything more important to the American people." pic.twitter.com/TtCeLOI4ks

— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) January 21, 2017