4 hours ago, Khan said:

Honestly, you'll go INSANE trying to piece together all things Wolfbridge, lol.

My new topic to obsess over is thinking about the emotional rollercoaster that poor Brian & Olivia went on. Granted, everybody went through the ringer, but it seems so much worse considering kids were involved. I hope that after Abby's kidnapping, she, Gary, and the children all had a nice family dinner, or a weekend at Disneyland, or something lighthearted.

I have a question for Knots fans. When did the series turn to long form soap opera storytelling or multi-episodic arcs? I just started and finished the first season and the episodes are mostly self contained with the exception of the final two episodes of the season with the second being a continuation of the first. There are elements and bits and pieces that overlap between episodes that create a thread but overall stories are pretty confined to the one episode with a clear beginning, middle, and end.

Having watched all of Dallas, I know it too started off with self contained episodes and eventually shifted to more season long storytelling. I know Knots also makes that transition, but having not watched all of the series...I am curious when this happens and how fans view season 1 or earlier seasons of the show. 

23 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

I have a question for Knots fans. When did the series turn to long form soap opera storytelling or multi-episodic arcs? I just started and finished the first season and the episodes are mostly self contained with the exception of the final two episodes of the season with the second being a continuation of the first. There are elements and bits and pieces that overlap between episodes that create a thread but overall stories are pretty confined to the one episode with a clear beginning, middle, and end.

Having watched all of Dallas, I know it too started off with self contained episodes and eventually shifted to more season long storytelling. I know Knots also makes that transition, but having not watched all of the series...I am curious when this happens and how fans view season 1 or earlier seasons of the show. 

Season 2 leans more into multi-episode arcs, but then Season 3 retreats into more single ep stories. The Season 4 Ciji story is when the writers really commit to the long-form storytelling that will work so well.

14 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Season 2 leans more into multi-episode arcs, but then Season 3 retreats into more single ep stories. The Season 4 Ciji story is when the writers really commit to the long-form storytelling that will work so well.

Thank you.

Well, I've started season 2 now and I am curious to see what that looks like and how it will differ from season 3.

 

 

4 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Thank you.

Well, I've started season 2 now and I am curious to see what that looks like and how it will differ from season 3.

 

 

Season two had one big season long arc and some smaller arcs. I loved the changes they made this season instead of just having self-contained episodes.

When you get to season 3 they did go back to a largely self-contained episodes but it made sense due to the changes you will see early on. There were a couple clunkers but overall that was an important season for character growth and set the stage for season 4 which is my favorite. The final episodes of season 3 are among the best.

Knots Landing becomes full-on primetime soap in season 4, although soap elements are showing during seasons 2 and 3.

17 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

I have a question for Knots fans. When did the series turn to long form soap opera storytelling or multi-episodic arcs? I just started and finished the first season and the episodes are mostly self contained with the exception of the final two episodes of the season with the second being a continuation of the first. There are elements and bits and pieces that overlap between episodes that create a thread but overall stories are pretty confined to the one episode with a clear beginning, middle, and end.

I'd say KL went full-blown soap opera starting with S4, with Gary and Val's marriage imploding over her discovery of his affair with Abby.  S2 attempted a soap-ish approach, but I don't think it was successful, which is why S3 became a sort of mix of self-contained episodes and ongoing storylines.

Even at the start of S4, KL doesn't really feel like the KL we all came to know and love until the final moments of what would become, IMO, a pivotal episode in KL's run.  (I won't say anymore, so you won't be spoiled, lol).

20 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

I have a question for Knots fans. When did the series turn to long form soap opera storytelling or multi-episodic arcs? I just started and finished the first season and the episodes are mostly self contained with the exception of the final two episodes of the season with the second being a continuation of the first. There are elements and bits and pieces that overlap between episodes that create a thread but overall stories are pretty confined to the one episode with a clear beginning, middle, and end.

Having watched all of Dallas, I know it too started off with self contained episodes and eventually shifted to more season long storytelling. I know Knots also makes that transition, but having not watched all of the series...I am curious when this happens and how fans view season 1 or earlier seasons of the show. 

Season 4. I thought the end of season 2 and early season 3 were soapy though.

On 7/10/2025 at 10:49 AM, Khan said:

Honestly, you'll go INSANE trying to piece together all things Wolfbridge, lol.

LOL.

Edited July 11Jul 11 by DemetriKane

Thanks everyone for your answers. 

Definitely seems like Abby was brought in for season 2 to stir the pot. 

From what I've seen so far, season 2 does have more of an interconnectedness between the episodes that was not really present in the first season. 

Abby to me is super unlikeable so far. She needs to rein in those kids. They annoy me through the tv screen, but it is fitting because she seems a bit absent. She's also already throwing herself at everyone's man. 

I'm strange in that I go against popular opinion with most things. I thought the first season was the best for all the primetime soaps I watched (Dallas, Dynasty and Falcon Crest). Except for Knots Landing. The first season was good. I just felt like it got better as it went along whereas the other primetime soaps started to deteriorate in my opinion. If you liked the first season or two of Knots Landing, you're in for a treat as you keep watching. 

I don't think you're alone there. Many around here enjoyed season 1. Some even list the pilot in their top 10 episodes. 

Really minor and insignificant question, but I noticed the actor who plays Dave Culver on Dallas is on the episode of Knots Landing titled "Kristin." Interestingly, he mentions coming from Washington, but he isn't playing Dave. Pretty sure that Tom Fuccello had already appeared on Dallas by this time, so interesting to pair him with Kristin who is also from the Dallas-verse as a different character. 

As you all probably know, Priscilla Pointer, who also plays Pam's mom on Dallas portrayed a different character on Knots season one, but she wouldn't appear on Knots for another year or so. I also noticed she just passed, which was sad but also incredible to see she lived to see 100. I hope they were mostly healthy and peaceful. 

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Definitely seems like Abby was brought in for season 2 to stir the pot. 

David Jacobs once gave an interview where he said that during Season 1, fans were basically asking, "If this is a spinoff of Dallas, then where's your JR?" 

Which was one of the things that led us to Abby 😂

Abby was introduced as a divorced mother from a working class background and we saw her working as a bookkeeper at the car dealership. She was all about the come up but she had both street smarts and book smarts to get that come up. Once Knots Landing becomes full-on soap, then Abby role as the villainess is set.

I'm watching on Plex, but I noticed something odd in episode 8 of season 2. When Karl explains that Michael is hyperkinetic, he asks Karen if she knows what it means and whatever Karen original says is dubbed over with "neurological." It is quite obvious because the flow of conversation is interrupted and the mouth doesn't match what is said. Is there some antiquated term for "neurological" that can be perceived as offensive today?