Here's a clip from 2005, when Christel had better writing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIPgvG7AqGU (Sorry, I don't know how to embed.)

This PROVES that Christel can step up when given good material.

Here's a similar scene with Davetta as Lily. NO emotion what so ever. And at 00:24 there's a long pause - clearly she forgot her lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOCU2OyJJo&NR=1

Edited August 22, 200817 yr by y&r_fan

Ummm..Toups already said not to go off topic. Why must one in particular re start the Devetta/Christel again?? This thread is about Josh Griffith being fired. About half of it now seems is about Devetta and Christel and who is better. There is a thread about that somewhere else on this board.

And no I am not a mod here.

Edited August 22, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

Ummm..Toups already said not to go off topic. Why must one in particular re start the Devetta/Christel again?? This thread is about Josh Griffith being fired. About half of it now seems is about Devetta and Christel and who is better. There is a thread about that somewhere else on this board.

And no I am not a mod here.

It's always about Christel/Davetta or Tammin/Adrienne in the end. We're talking about the last of the great daytime dramas, but apparently, those four actresses are all anyone can talk about.

Isn't this what we have the Love/Hate folder for?

thats exactly what is needed for what fans want.

it seems most fans want to see a lily like her mother, for that to happen a stronger actress is needed yes - but so is a major reason for the char to change who she is. because im sorry - lily is nothing like her mother, she wasnt rasied liek dru, she was raised in paris and is a pretty pretty princess.

Do we really know how she was raise in Paris? All they said she she hung around kids she shouldn't have hung around. That doesn't sound like a princess. It didn't say anything about her being treated like a princess. CK plays Lily like she was raise in Cali as a princess.

Ummm..Toups already said not to go off topic. Why must one in particular re start the Devetta/Christel again?? This thread is about Josh Griffith being fired. About half of it now seems is about Devetta and Christel and who is better. There is a thread about that somewhere else on this board.

And no I am not a mod here.

Well I heard he & LML was the ones who brought CK back as Lily. I'm asking is CK going to keep it now if he's gone. they killed off both Sabrina & David wasn't they hire under He & LML. You know when they fire people. The people who was hired under them jobs are going to be in question.

Edited August 22, 200817 yr by MoTheGreat

It's always about Christel/Davetta or Tammin/Adrienne in the end. We're talking about the last of the great daytime dramas, but apparently, those four actresses are all anyone can talk about.

Isn't this what we have the Love/Hate folder for?

LMAO

Trite.

Nelson's latest update.

http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/The+Suds+R...n_NB.htm?isfa=1

The Young and the Restless, Global/CBS — Hogan versus Bell?

•So the big question this week remains: has executive producer Josh Griffith been fired or has he quit? Depends on who you talk to or which news website you read (Soap Opera Digest says Griffith’s still on staff, while daytimeconfidential.com maintains he’s “quit.”) Either way insiders say the fi-core scribe is leaving Genoa City. Reps Sony and Y&R are still “looking into this,” for Suds readers. Take your time, folks; he’s only the executive producer of daytime’s No. 1 soap.

•Tell me this isn’t true: Y&R setsiders are buzzing that Hogan Sheffer is butting heads behind the scenes with his writing partner co-head Maria Arena Bell. Let me just say this once: If ego and politics somehow lead to the Emmy winner’s dismissal after Sheffer has single-handedly turned Y&R around, I will scream bloody murder. Ever since soap legend William Bell’s death, everyone and their ugly stepmother has been fighting for control of the venerable soap — and it’s got to stop before they suck all the life out of Bell’s masterpiece.

So even this hack columnist is recycling his old cr*p?

Sheffer turned Y&R around? Single-handedly? :lol:

This is such crock of sh!t!

Edited August 22, 200817 yr by Sylph

Oh great, now MAB and Sheffer are fighting. The show is simply doomed. Just freakin' do something about it already. We (the fans) are crazy for thinking some things might get better. Things get worse, but we still return time after time with hope.

Sony or CBS or whoever has got the control over Y&R is really incompetent. Just do something already!

Oh great, now MAB and Sheffer are fighting. The show is simply doomed. Just freakin' do something about it already. We (the fans) are crazy for thinking some things might get better. Things get worse, but we still return time after time with hope.

Sony or CBS or whoever has got the control over Y&R is really incompetent. Just do something already!

How hard could it be? IA, they need to do something! Oh man. This sucks.

Oh great, now MAB and Sheffer are fighting. The show is simply doomed. Just freakin' do something about it already. We (the fans) are crazy for thinking some things might get better. Things get worse, but we still return time after time with hope.

Sony or CBS or whoever has got the control over Y&R is really incompetent. Just do something already!

I just said something similar...less action oriented...in another thread. If this feuding is really happening again, the owners need to look at what their STRUCTURAL and POWER SHARING problem are and FIX them.

those bigwigs had to have known sheffer wouldn't play nice with bell forever. He's totally gonna be King sooner or later.