Another solid ep last night! RDK is doing a good job at incorporating more 90210 staples into the show. And the show as whole now make's me feel like I'm watching a more mature, less corny version of the originals first and second seasons.

me too. i feel like they now have an overall feeling and direction the show had lacked. before it seemed like a lets throw things out there and see what sticks. you can tell they like annie/ethan as the show man couple, who will pretty much be together but have issues. Silver/Dixon will be the sidekick couple thats a lot more complex and layerd with internal issues. Then you have the friends.

Loved the Annie/Ethan, Dixon/Silver scenes. JP, I agree, somthing is definitely wrong with Silver. I read that

we find out she's bipolar and starts going crazy

I hope this doesn't tear her and Dixon apart like Adriana's pregnancy did her relationship with Navid(I hate that he just dumped her like he did).

yeah

she goes to kansas to find out more about his past and suffers a mental break there

if i was Navid i would have left her too. Whats he suposed to do? Hes what, 16? I wouldnt be able to take that on now at 21 let alone at 16.

George is an ass-hole, BTW. He's like a nastier version of Steve lacking all the charm and likability.

yes. i think they wanted KL's char to become the steve but then he got all this other work and he cant/wont commit to the show, but i like him.

Debbie, Harry, and Tabitha were hilarious! They are waaaaaaaay cooler than Jim and Cindy!

And I'm sorry to see Jessica Walter go, Tabitha will be sorely missed. Hopefully the opening will be updated next week seeing as that will be the first official ep with Jessica Lowndes on contract.

yup. i agree. love the parents. i LOLed at ethans reaction to finding them in the car.

i am pretty sure they will bring her back on. She is a great comical relief, but they do need to let debbie and harry establish themselves as a married couple raising kids and living in bev hills without his mother. ya know?

Next week looks good with both Ryan and Kelly back.

i cant wait.

and is it just me or does silver seem a little... on the unstable side?

lol...she seemed that way on the very first episode with her stupid website

lol...she seemed that way on the very first episode with her stupid website

ha, i dont think so. her website thing was pretty normal. every highschool now has its slam sites, and snti sites, and whatnot.

ha, i dont think so. her website thing was pretty normal. every highschool now has its slam sites, and snti sites, and whatnot.

she seemed a bit off with the way she quickly turned on Annie and attacked for no reason. Not too mention she came across obsessive and over the top with her hate against Naomi. I thought the girl had some serious issues. At first it seemed to be her drunk mother and her past history but it just may be more.

she seemed a bit off with the way she quickly turned on Annie and attacked for no reason. Not too mention she came across obsessive and over the top with her hate against Naomi. I thought the girl had some serious issues. At first it seemed to be her drunk mother and her past history but it just may be more.

thats all very true, i forgot about all of that.

Yeah, Silver's storyline is going to be pretty good. The way she treated Annie and Ethan after they were kissing and looking at Dixon like he had 4 heads when he told her 'I love you', wow.. Girl definitely has some problems! I have a feeling Dixon will end up turning to Christina (the bisexual girl)

I really love Naomi and Ade's friendship. I love that she's right there for her, unlike NAVID who I was really disappointed with in the episode. He's the guy who payed for her rehab, helped her after she left rehab and became her boyfriend.. now he suddenly wants nothing to do with her? Sad.

Annie and Ethan are TOO cute. I love that they decided to wait, but I don't think everything's going to be smooth sailing for Ethan.

Heard he gets into a car accident and could possibly be paralyzed (the clip on Eonline.com had him sitting in a wheelchair, so who knows?!)

I have a feeling Tabitha will be back soon.

And finally tonight Kelly gets to confront Ryan about sleeping with Brenda. I was surprised about that reveal, we didn't even see them hook up, kiss or anything.

I really love Naomi and Ade's friendship. I love that she's right there for her, unlike NAVID who I was really disappointed with in the episode. He's the guy who payed for her rehab, helped her after she left rehab and became her boyfriend.. now he suddenly wants nothing to do with her? Sad.

I dont know, i feel for him. I eman puit yourself in this 16 year old kids shoes. His new girlfriend is prego and its not his baby. What would you do? Most would walk away, and i honestly dont see anything wrong with that. I would too. Its sad yes, but there are two sides.

Silver is LOVE! But i felt so bad for her when Dixon broke up with her, but at the same time... she is a little much.

Annie & Ethan are adorable. I was shocked byt he car accident and cant wait to see whats next for them. I love how unlike other teen shows this one doesnt have the front main couple, the cute sidekicks, and the rest. Well, they do.. but they all rotate spots. One week Dixion/Silver is the main focus couple and they have issues when Annie/Ethan are the cute side couple, then it flips, and then they pull adrianna front and center or naomi. It has great balance.

I love the new drama teacher too. And ryan. and kelly. and the parents.

ALM was really good IMHO. i love it when Naomi is a bitch.

Ryan is only 23? Masn he's younger than me. I thought he was closer to 30. Wow, Kelly really was rocking the cradle then...lol. How self centered of her to think that his issues with Erin had to be about her. I liked how he handled the situation. Girl needs to realize taht she seriously hurts people with her website

Is Naomi's dad, Will from AMC?

Is Naomi's dad, Will from AMC?

Yeah I think so.

Really great episode this week. Loved seeing Adriana in the opening! Her scenes with Kelly and Naomi were great. I felt bad for her when she told Naomi she couldn't get an abortion cause she was too far along. Ty being the baby daddy was shocking. I'm glad RRK spiced his character up a bit cause under G&J he was a complete and utter bore.

Naomi's scenes with her dad and Gail were awesome! I wish Naomi would have told Gail he was cheating on her with the real estate agent(who was played by Kristen Miller, DD from She Spies).

Annie can be so effin annoying sometimes. Her whining over not getting the lead in the play got old, real fast. Also, I hope Ethan's alright(he should have known better then to use a cell phone while driving, go buy a blue tooth or headset you dumb ass!).

Dixon came off like a jackass breaking up with Silver like he did, though I understand why he broke up with her. Loved his scenes with Debbie.

And Ryan is such a manwhore lol, first Kelly, then Brenda, then Kimberly, and now the director of the play. Dude needs to try being single for awhile lol. And I'm sorry, I don't buy him being 23. 27, yes, 23, no.

Don't have the energy to write something creative. So I'm just gonna say that I agree with detroitpiston ^^. Except for the Dixon breaking up with Silver part. I think he's tried to communicate with her and she just won't budge. Childish really.

Oh, and I love Adrianna's hair this way. She's so d*mn pretty!

'90210' gets off to a rough start

It seemed like a surefire recipe: Take the No. 1 teen drama in TV history, update it, stoke the publicity fires with news of returning favorite characters from the original, and The CW would land a huge hit.

But “90210″ is suffering a serious case of adolescent angst. Instead of becoming prime time’s cocky homecoming king, the series developed more like the shy, insecure kid with no date to the dance.

Then, to make matters worse, there has been that mean girl “American Idol” to contend with. Running Tuesday at 8 p.m. opposite the most popular show on television cost “90210″ a sizable chunk of its audience.

Looking to woo those viewers back, The CW will move the show to 9 p.m. – out of “Idol’s” destructive path – after a six-week hiatus that begins Feb. 17.

Even before it had to compete with “Idol,” “90210″ was struggling to get out of “Gossip Girl’s” shadow, especially with initial reviews that ” were lukewarm at best. The new show settled into just-acceptable ratings after debuting to the largest premiere audience in CW history.

“The show may have tried out more voices than most other first-year shows, ” said executive producer Rebecca Rand Kirshner Sinclair, who took over the show in September and is “90210’s ” third steward since its development.

“The only solution, and my challenge, is to have time to fix and develop story lines organically. ”

Throughout the fall, the series made news only when “Beverly Hills, 90210 ” stars Jennie Garth and Shannen Doherty were due on set – or when one of the actors in the new cast acted out. Those headlines have focused primarily on 19-year-old actress Shenae Grimes, who plays good girl Annie, the show’s lead character. The New York Post’s Page Six reported in September that Grimes was often rude on set and was once overheard saying, “This is my show – everyone else is riding my coattails. ” Grimes also has become a target of gossip blogger Perez Hilton.

At a recent “90210 ” party, Grimes said she didn’t pay attention to the negative press, because “you’d go nuts if you did. ” But some of her co-stars and producers said the intense coverage hurt the young cast, especially a recent US Weekly cover story about the thinness of Grimes and her co-stars Jessica Stroup and AnnaLynne McCord and what kind of example that set for the show’s young viewers.

“I like that people are talking about the show, but not when it hurts the kids, ” executive producer Gabe Sachs said.

The nostalgia hook also is proving problematic for the show. Doherty’s Brenda announced she was ready to become a mom in her last appearance, but the actress has not signed on for more episodes. Garth’s Kelly, now a guidance counselor at West Beverly High, is slated for just one more, and Tori Spelling’s Donna Martin will be back for a limited run.

In some respects, the old characters that attracted wistful viewers have proved to be a distraction.

“The show got so much attention for being a ‘90210′ update that it’s really taken some time to explain to the teens that this is their ‘90210,’ too, ” Ostroff said.

But arriving at what a show is, exactly, is a bigger challenge when it changes hands three times. The CW announced it was fast-tracking the remake last April, bringing aboard Rob Thomas of “Veronica Mars ” fame, but he abandoned it after his first draft because of a commitment with ABC. The network then recruited Sachs and Jeff Judah, known for mining the anxieties of working-class teens in the male-driven dramas “Life as We Know It ” and “Freaks and Geeks. ”

Because of a time crunch, the pair sped through writing the first six episodes without the benefit of evaluating a produced pilot to guide future story lines. Then the clashes with network executives began. The CW wanted “90210 ” to have a female perspective and focus more on money and glitz, like “Gossip Girl. ” But Judah and Sachs were more comfortable writing for men – read: an oral sex scene played for laughs in the pilot – so they stopped writing. Judah now handles postproduction duties, including editing and music supervision, and Sachs runs the production on set.

“It was sort of like a big, flashing neon sign that we just drove by when we accepted this job, ” Judah said. “But at the time, we thought we’d give it a shot and see what happens . . . . Ultimately, what the network wanted isn’t what we do. ”

The tension was not lost on the cast. Dustin Milligan, 23, plays Ethan Ward, a character who was initially written as a star athlete/outsider with an autistic brother but who has morphed solely into Annie’s love interest – a romance that hasn’t lighted viewers’ fires.

“I don’t think the network knew exactly what they wanted, ” Milligan said. “I know Gabe and Jeff were working really hard and doing a really good job with bringing in the quirky moments and the humor and the realism – but a lot of that never quite made it into the episodes. We were all pretty upset about it. ”

With Judah and Sachs out of the writers room in September, The CW hired Kirshner Sinclair, who built a reputation working on the beloved teen shows “Gilmore Girls ” and “Buffy the Vampire Slayer. ” Among her biggest tasks is figuring out what to do with Annie, the girl with the charmed life, never encountering a problem she can’t solve or a boy who doesn’t fall for her.

Kirshner Sinclair can relate. She, too, stayed out of trouble during her teen years. “Annie is probably closer to who I was in high school, ” she said. “So if (the writers and I) could just dig more, I think we could do some genuine things with her. ”

What would be best for Annie, it appears, would be for Kirshner Sinclair to stay. The writer-producer would like to be around in some capacity for “90210’s ” second season, which is a sure bet at this point. The network and studio are pleased with the show’s direction now and would like Kirshner Sinclair to stay on as show runner. A decision about her role will be made soon. (It seems clear Judah and Sachs will not work on the second season.)

For now, Kirshner Sinclair is feeling optimistic. The remaining 10 episodes will bring Spelling’s return (and, yes, Donna’s still married to David Silver), the arrival of Dixon’s (Tristan Wilds) estranged mother, Adrianna’s (Jessica Lowndes) baby drama, and the much-needed addition of a Dylan McKay bad-boy type (Matt Lanter).

“Before, working on the show was pretty frantic, like solving puzzles, ” she said. “But by the end of this season, I think we’ll have the right tone down. It’s finally getting exciting.”

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Ryan is only 23?

I was surprised too. I thought he was mid-to-late 20's.

Ty being the baby daddy was shocking.

I liked the twist! Instead of making the father someone we don't know, they made it Ty's.

Dixon came off like a jackass breaking up with Silver like he did, though I understand why he broke up with her. Loved his scenes with Debbie.

I'm disappointed he broke it off with her. What a fool. LOL

Oh, and I love Adrianna's hair this way. She's so d*mn pretty!

She sure is.

Ahh...so Jeff and Gabe were clashing with the network. No wonder the show has been disjointed with no real vision.

I still want my "group episode" where all the teens are together. The show is so isolated.

I was surpised to see Aimee Teegarden on the show. Telling from her last scene, it seem like she's gonna be on some more.

I like the change in Ethan. It's a different path and a healthy one.

Edit.

She's at least gonna be in the next one "Of heartbreaks and Hotels".

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3103951360/tt1225901

Wow, what a turn Adrianna's mom did. I really really like the scene in the bedroom. Hope their relationship will stay this way.

I was so waiting for someone to tell Ty's mom off. Finally Constance woke up!

Gosh, I've gotta say. Adrianna is by far my favorite character. I don't know what it is, but it's just something about her... And the hair still looks gorgeous!

I was surpised to see Aimee Teegarden on the show. Telling from her last scene, it seem like she's gonna be on some more.

I like Aimee (FNL fan here) and she's cute. At first was disappointed in Rhonda's duplicity because I really liked her tender scenes with Ethan. In this one episode, Rhonda/Ethan bonded more than Ethan/Annie all season. But then I laughed because it could be fun to see a bad girl who causes trouble.

I like the change in Ethan. It's a different path and a healthy one.

Me too. Ethan was enjoyable in this episode - all thanks to Rhonda of course.

Gosh, I've gotta say. Adrianna is by far my favorite character. I don't know what it is, but it's just something about her... And the hair still looks gorgeous!

Adrianna is the star of this show and has been since the first episode - that's why I was wondering before, that a supporting character is getting all the meaty storylines. Loved that slow-mo walk in the last scene. And yay to the hair still looking good! LOL

Navid was back and he was hilarious as usual. Loved his "uncool" speech. I like his friendship with Dixon. We need more friendship scenes like they had in this last ep.

I thought Jessica Stroup was pretty good in the scene on the street with Dixon where Silver realizes she's in love with Dixon.

I am loving Silver. And Ethan. And Christina.

everyone else? ehhh.

but i dont hate anyone. thats good.