Members AgnesEckhart Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 He was writing primetime TV as early as '74 so I don't think he was a teen either. But he could still well have been a long-time viewer. He just seems the like the last man I'd expect to be an All My Children fan. Good point about Victor Miller. Before I saw him in person I always pictured this classy upper-crust kind of man. And then to be confronted with a pony tail, tattoos etc was a little suprising. And he's one of daytime's best IMO. So you never know.... Lets also not forget that, IMO, his most significant credit is not anything he did or did not do for TV, but his work as a NYC police detective. He's been out there in the thick of the most gripping *real life* stories. Frons picked him, that's a guarantee he's not going to be perfect. I have no doubt his introductory interview is not going to please AMC fans the same way Hogan's pleased Days fans. I think he's going to say some things we are not going to like hearing. But at this point I don't care. AMC is complete sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 They should have brought Greg Weisman. Ha watched the show on and off for thirty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angela Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yeah, his (BA) credits do no thrill me at all, but at this point I'd take a monkey over McTavish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Plus Burton Armus is not a trouble-shooter, ie. the industry uses the term fire-fighters. You see the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'm not going to judge him by his past credits, I'm going to judge him by the work he does when his work starts airing on AMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Same here. He's going to be fresh and exciting. I can't wait to see what he has in store for us and as a long time fan he should have some awesome ideas. He worked on NYPD Blue I assume for the entire series run? It was on up until what 2003? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Agree. I'm just puzzled by the way they pick them (Sheffer, Latham, Armus). I mean, why not hire Michele Fazekas and Tara Butters, eg.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AgnesEckhart Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 I never said he's going to suck based on his looks. He only worked on NYPD Blue for the first season, but IMO that was the best season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Does anyone here know is Agnes Nixon still involved with the show and if so, how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Charles Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 I remember in early 2003 when AMC was featured on "Biography" they showed one of the writer's meetings with Richard Culliton. Agnes Nixon was there sitting at the table. I’m sure Agnes still wants be involved, but McT probably told her at the one of the meetings (no doubt during an argument), "Get out, old lady. This is MY show now!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jackie Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Burton Armus was a writer/producer on the first two seasons of NYPD Blue. NYPD Blue picked up the Emmy in season two. Credits are credits. They're just that. VERY few successful primetime writers have GOOD resumes. The most acclaimed writers work on shitty shows as staff writers because work is work, and it's very rare that you can go to one acclaimed show to the other. Greg Garcia, Emmy-winning writer of "My Name is Earl" got his start on "Step by Step" and "Family Matters." Terence Winter, three-time Emmy winner for "The Sopranos," worked on "The New Adventures of Flipper." Most of the writers from "Arrested Development," the most acclaimed sitcom in years, have very bad resumes, ranging from shows like "My Wife and Kids," "Full House," "Boy Meets World," and the like. Yet they came to a show with completely DIFFERENT sensibilities and pen out an Emmy-winning show that many criticis consider the most innovative and funniest to come along in years. Shonda Rimes, the creator/showrunner of "Grey's Anatomy," wrote that god-damned Britney Spears vehicle "Crossroads," for goodness sake. The rule of thumb in primetime TV is that you are LUCKY to get work ANYWHERE, and the chances that you will find a show that YOU think is good/funny/whatever are minimal. What show you work for in primetime TV is not a reflection on your talent as a writer or your likes and dislikes in shows. And about the primetime TV writing process. Actually, first they "mesh" out each episode before anything is written. The showrunner/EP and the writer-producers are all in this meeting and they ALL contribute to the episode. That's why all writers are given "producer" credits on every episode. Certain writer-producers in the meeting are then assigned to expand on the episode and actually write it. They flesh out the story even more, and write the dialogue (teleplay), and they get the writing credit. Just for kicks, a picture of Victor Miller. This is a man, judging by his multiple interviews, loves the soap genre to death. He's also a Yale graduate in, I believe, English literature. Looks can be deceiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ilovemydays Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 IA looks anount to nothing in this line of work. I'm only referring to his body of work (and lack there of). He worked for NYPD Blue for a season but he did not WRITE for the show. He was a co-producer and he was one of many. Full Cast and Crew for "NYPD Blue" (1993) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106079/fullcredits Produced by Kevin Arkadie .... supervising producer Burton Armus .... co-producer Paris Barclay .... supervising producer Jeremy Beim .... co-producer (2003) Joseph Berger-Davis .... associate producer Buzz Bissinger .... producer Jesse Bochco .... producer Steven Bochco .... executive producer Nicole Carrasco .... associate producer Bill Clark .... co-executive producer Bill Clark .... co-producer Bill Clark .... consulting producer Bill Clark .... supervising producer Gigi Coello-Bannon .... associate producer Joyce Davis .... coordinating producer (2003) Steven DePaul .... co-producer Steven DePaul .... coordinating producer (1997-1998) Steven DePaul .... producer (1999-2001) Steven DePaul .... supervising producer (2001-2004) Robert J. Doherty .... co-executive producer (2002-) Robert J. Doherty .... coordinating producer Robert J. Doherty .... producer (1997-1998) Charles H. Eglee .... co-executive producer (1995) Keith Eisner .... co-producer (2003) William M. Finkelstein .... executive producer Leonard Gardner .... producer Channing Gibson .... co-executive producer David Glazier .... associate producer (2004) Walon Green .... co-executive producer (1994-1995) Gregory Hoblit .... executive producer John Hyams .... producer Ted Mann .... producer (1993-1994) Bonnie Mark .... co-executive producer (2003) JoAnne McCool .... co-producer JoAnne McCool .... producer (2002-) David Milch .... executive producer Maureen Milligan .... co-producer David Mills .... co-producer Matt Olmstead .... executive producer (2002-) Matt Olmstead .... producer Doug Palau .... producer Greg Plageman .... co-producer (2004) Theresa Rebeck .... co-producer Michael M. Robin .... co-executive producer Chad Savage .... co-producer Alex Shevchenko .... associate producer Gardner Stern .... co-producer Gardner Stern .... producer Gardner Stern .... supervising producer Meredith Stiehm .... producer Meredith Stiehm .... supervising producer Tom Szentgyorgyi .... producer Hans VanDoornewaard .... associate producer (2003) Michael W. Watkins .... producer (as Michael Watkins) Nicholas Wootton .... executive producer (2002-) Nicholas Wootton .... producer Nicholas Wootton .... supervising producer Jody Worth .... producer Jody Worth .... supervising producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jackie Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 In primetime TV, a producer IS a writer. If you are a contracted member of the writing staff, you get a PRODUCER credit. If you are a producer in the sense that you do NOT write, but are responsible for the technical aspects of the show, you get a "Produced by" credit. Burton Armus wrote several of NYPD Blue, it's not hard to find the proof online. He received an Emmy nomination in 1995 for co-writing an episode with David Milch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Theresa33 Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 thats funny and true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toadstool Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Victor Miller PINGS - or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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