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Yet Ellen Wheeler was EP for some 5 1/2 years. Of all the EPs GL had in its final 25 years, Ellen Wheeler had the second longest run after Paul Rauch (6 years).

I will forever maintain that Robert Calhoun laid all the groundwork but JFP got all the credit. It disappoints me that the ratings didn't improve during Robert Calhoun's run. JFP first year got the ratings up but there's also the factors of ABC's big three tanking at various times during that year, and Days being a mess in that post-supercouple/pre-Reilly era. Now that we have 1980s and early 1990s ratings data, it seems to me that the real issues w/ GL began when Douglas Marland departed in 1982. Yes, that first year of Gail Kobe/Pamela Long got the ratings back up, but it was too much chasing 1980s trends which wasn't sustainable and that was reflected in the ratings from Fall 1984 onward. Summer 1992 departures of Kimberley Simms, Sherry Stringfield, Beverlee McKinsey w/in weeks of each other left a huge void in the canvas. January 1993 departure of Ellen Parker was the beginning of the end. I figured Kimberley and Sherry departures as finish initial contract, move on to other things while still relatively young. Beverlee was a shock I didn't expect. I didn't see Ellen departure in real time but the reasons behind it have been talked about in this thread.

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By the time of OJ, Another World had already been limping along for like 15 years, but that's neither here nor there for this thread. The P&G 1995 EP switch damaged all three shows and they never really recovered from that. GL entered cancel territory in 1995 and it looked like 1996 would be the end.

Lets keep it real here, the P&G shows were effectively over in the aftermath of OJ.

A year earlier both Beverlee McKinsey and Victoria Wyndham lost Lead Actress to their co-star Laurie Heineman. I think there was some controversy over that win too and I wonder if that was the reason the supporting categories were introduced the following year. IMO the younger categories were introduced in 1985 in response to the controversy over Judi Evans supporting win in 1984 (she wasn't even 20 years old and had been on GL for only one year at the time).

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Michael Jordan's lawyers are probably also watching. I am so far.

I've often wondered if Bill Bell regretted killing off Phillip III. I think Bill Bell may have used Ryan to fill the void left by Phillip III. Totally agree.

Susan Lucci last nomination was 2002 but not sure if she submitted 2003-2012. Lead was for superstars and long-tenured veterans. Supporting was the holding tank for those who aged out of the younger category but were not quite at superstar level or had enough years to be considered long-tenured veterans.

If Bill Bell was still in charge, yes. Bradley would bungle the execution.

I am actually surprised ABC didn't try to make happen Susan Lucci in a short arc on Dynasty at the height of its popularity (Fall 1982 to Spring 1985). She had guest starred on Love Boat and Fantasy Island so Aaron Spelling was aware of her. Susan Lucci, the diva of all divas of daytime, vs. Joan Collins, the diva of all divas of 1980s primetime soaps, would have been the most epic diva battle ever. Speaking of which, Susan Lucci and Joan Collins both appeared on a celebrity Family Feud special in 1982.

I counted 9: Beth Maitland (1985), Jess Walton (1991), Michelle Stafford (1997), Sharon Case (1999), Amelia Heinle (2014, 2015), Jessica Collins (2016), Camryn Grimes (2018), Marla Adams (2021). I counted 8: Tracey Bregman (1985), Tricia Cast (1992), Heather Tom (1993, 1999), Camryn Grimes (2000), Christel Khalil (2012), Hunter King (2014, 2015).

Michael Zaslow: Guiding Light to guest starring roles (Love Boat, Falcon Crest), short-lived ABC primetime soap Kings Crossing, then back to daytime w/ One Life to Live, then return to Guiding Light. John McCook: Y&R to guest starring roles (Love Boat, Dynasty, Hotel; Magnum, P.I.; Murder, She Wrote to name a few), short-lived NBC action show Code Name: Foxfire, then back to daytime w/ B&B. Jaime Lyn Bauer: Y&R to short-lived NBC primetime soap Bare Essence, guest starring roles (Fantasy Island, Love Boat, Hotel, Knots Landing to name a few), then back to daytime w/ Days. Deborah Adair: Y&R to Dynasty, Finder of Lost Loves, Melrose Place, then back to daytime w/ Days. Christian LeBlanc: As the World Turns to In the Heat of the Night, then back to daytime w/ Y&R. Eileen Davidson: Y&R to short-lived CBS action show Broken Badges, then back to daytime w/ Santa Barbara and Days, then return to Y&R.

James Reilly was part of that early 1990s writing team at GL and he worked fine as part of that team. AFAIK he was left to his own devices at Days, and we saw what happened from 1993-1997. Yes Days recovered in the ratings, but daytime was shaken at a level not seen since ABC's huge rise and domination some 15 years earlier.

From the last 1992 chart as of this writing, James Reilly is some 6 months away. I believe he was first credited December 1992. Days is such an interesting case in soap history. Started as a Bill Bell show which unfortunately I was not alive for, so for my generation its best known for the supercouple years and Reilly years. Now that we've seen a good portion of the ratings for the post-supercouple/pre-Reilly era, it makes sense why that era was not really talked about alot.

Of course, that makes sense

Lead Actress winners w/ multiple wins who were in their 30s at the time of at least one of their wins. Susan Flannery: 1975 at age 35 Judith Light: 1980 at age 31, 1981 at age 32 Erika Slezak: 1984 at age 37, 1986 at age 39 Kim Zimmer: 1985 at age 30, 1987 at age 32, 1990 at age 35 Maura West: 2007 at age 35, 2010 at age 38 Heather Tom: 2012 at age 36, 2013 at age 37 Jacqueline MacInnes Wood: 2019 at age 32, 2021 at age 34, 2023 at age 36

1990s babies would have started Kindergarten in the aftermath of OJ, and as we all know soaps were never the same at that point so it's interesting to learn what drew 1990s babies to soaps. Those born in 1990 and 1991 would have started Kindergarten Fall 1995 and Fall 1996 during Reilly Days. 1992 birth would have started Kindergarten in Fall 1997 and by then Reilly Days were done. I was born on a weekday but my birth week isn't in it's ratings thread yet LOL.

"You are not the father!" will forever be Maury's catchphrase. Look at the list of Daytime Emmy acting winners that were born 1980 and later. That to me is proof as to how far the daytime talent pool has dropped over the last 25-30 years. The streak is over. 2023 was Thorsten Kaye 7th nomination in Lead Actor. He was nominated 2003 and 2004 for Port Charles, 2006 and 2009 for All My Children, 2020 and 2021 for B&B. Jacqueline MacInnes Wood 3rd Lead Actress win ties her w/ Helen Gallagher, Maura West, Heather Tom in the Lead Actress list and places her behind Erika Slezak, Susan Flannery, Kim Zimmer. It's crazy that B&B has more Lead Actress wins than Y&R. B&B 3 each for Susan Flannery, Heather Tom, Jacqueline MacInnes Wood. Y&R 1 each for Jess Walton, Michelle Stafford, Jeanne Cooper, Gina Tognoni, Eileen Davidson, Mishael Morgan.

If Google is correct, Eden McCoy is the first Daytime Emmy winner in the acting categories that was born in the 2000s.

Not to derail this thread, but B&B did have a bit of a cast switch in 1992. Departures of Lauren Koslow, Todd McKee, Peter Brown, Daniel McVicar, Colleen Dion. Debuts of Chris Robinson, Kimberlin Brown, Brent Jasmer. Michael Watson had a short run. Teri Ann Linn returned for a short arc.

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So you're a May 1992 baby. Looking at Days ratings so far in 1992, James Reilly cannot get there fast enough.

May 1992 was a huge month for both Y&R and B&B. Y&R had the baby switch reveal, Sheila disappearance, Victor collapsing and Jack leaves for Victor dead. B&B had Sheila arrival, Brooke learns she is pregnant, Ridge and Taylor get married. Guiding Light April 30, 1992 Hamp and Gilly get married and Monti Sharp debut, and May 1, 1992 Roberta Flack guest appearance. So much jockeying for position. @JAS0N47 Again, thank you so much for bringing this part of daytime television history to us. You should be knighted 🤗