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That Sheree meme gives me life!!! If only it came with sound...

You're right. Nor is she living nearly as glamorous a lifestyle as Eileen. It's not as though she's living in BH, married to a Van Patten! I get you. Are you sure? Because NLG would be as messy as they come on Housewives..... Food for thought.

Got it. Thank you. Interesting that JFP supposedly contacted her about appearing on AW after GL. Another World, while one of my fave soaps, is a show I could never see Marcy fitting into. IMO, after AMC (which she should have left earlier, if she wanted to continue her career), I think she would have made a fantastic Samantha re-cast on ATWT. I could also see her on Y&R as Ashley (the Brenda Epperson version of Ashley).

I feel like Pam Long is one of those writers who is only a good fit for one soap (GL). Her stints on Santa Barbara and One Life to Live were less than impressive. I actually think they should have brought over someone like Nancy Curlee or even Millee Taggart.

To quote Dorinda, "Not well, bitch" Yeah, where the heck did that come from anyway? Marcy's persona has never been one that I would even connect to a Housewives show. Not even close. Linda Dano as an NYC housewife? Yes. Michelle Stafford and Nancy Lee Grahn on RHOBH? Absolutely... But Marcy Walker? No. Just no. MW and ED are not at all on the same level. Never have been. Two totally different personality types and acting styles. It's why ED was received so coldly by SB fans when the show tried to replace Marcy with her. Same for Kim Zimmer (who I could also see on a Housewives show, incidentally). Thank You! In a word, yes. Also, Marcy has always been a very private person. No way would she open her life up in that way. I disagree about Eileen screaming more glamour than Marcy. In her heydey, Marcy was gorgeous. Eileen was a dog. Has the dog aged well? Yes she has. But I do agree that Marcy would be boring on this type of show, in the sense that I can't see her playing ball and engaging the other women in the way she'd be expected to. It's part of why I love her so much- something like Housewives is just not in the cards for someone like her. Again, THANK YOU! Hey hey you two!!! Last I heard, she was doing her ministry thing in Oklahoma. So Real Housewives of Oklahoma. Hell, TayShana (aka RHOBH's Taylor) could be a cast member, Briana could move back and be a cast member, Vicki could pop in....It could be quite the series! I come back and re-visit SON for a few days with my MW avatar and.....is this what I invited? I mean, I love Marcy Walker, always have, and I don't apologize for it, but I never brought her into every thread. Next thing you know, it will be suggested that she replace Kevin James's wife on Kevin Can Wait!!!

I don't disbelieve you, but I would like to see that article. I have followed Marcy's career for YEARS and I don't ever recall that being mentioned. I can't see her working for JFP again so soon after what happened on GL. It was definitely the right move for her to go back to AMC. Liza was nothing short of amazing from 95-2000.

I did read that. Mason and Julia would have fit right in to AW.

I have never EVER heard that. I can't imagine who they were going to have her play.

1987 would be the most egregious year IMO- this was during the Elena storyline. Eden's paralysis with Cain, they reunite, Eden in the wheelchair, Elena killed, Cruz arrested and tried for her murder, Cruz convicted, Cruz escapes, Cruz & Eden reunite to try to prove his innocence- even Pamela's return (during the trial) was overshadowed by Cruz & Eden. Most all of the characters became a part of this storyline and little to none of them had much story of their own. The only other major story that year with some traction was Julia/Mason/Tori. Even Kelly's wedding to Jeffrey was all about Cruz & Eden. They were and are my favorite couple ever but even I could see that they were dominating the show that year. It didn't help that the Lockridges were phased out that year and the entire supporting cast, including Keith & Gina, were directly involved in this dominating story. 1988 was Eden's rape and while it was a major story I never felt like it ate the show. 1989 started with the whole Adriana kidnapping mess which did dominate the show but once Robert Barr was brought in, everything shifted gears. Story was being written for Kelly and Mason & Julia as well as the DiNapoli sisters. CC had another illegitimate son in Greg- so other things were happening and they didn't dominate. 1990 they were actually somewhat backburnered, with the return of the Lockridges and the Flame/Quinn/Kelly/Robert storyline. Say what you will about John Conboy but I actually really enjoyed the stories being done at the time as well as the characters he chose to feature. He brought back Nicolas Coster and Louise Sorel and featured them heavily, which also gave story to CC & Sophia. He brought back the Keith Timmons character, even if they did have to miscast John Novak when they couldn't get Justin Deas back. He saw the writing on the wall with Marcy (she filmed her first pilot in 1990, "Bar Girls" which didn't get picked up) and made the conscious decision to shift the focus back to Kelly, with Carrington Garland carrying much of the show. Julia's rape by Dash wasn't the cleanest story but it was the first major storyline given to Nancy Lee Grahn that was solely ABOUT her. Bringing back Minx was long overdue. Cassandra Benedict was a character that worked played by the formidable Karen Moncrief. Recasting Terry Lester's Mason with Gordon Thomson was brilliant and saved that character. IMO, 1990 was the last REALLY GOOD year of Santa Barbara

Killing off Hayley was a mistake. Another soap death I'll always remember- her getting hit by that car. Was it Ted she pushed out of the way? Or Gina? I think it was Ted. Hayley provided a conscience for Gina that she badly needed. I love that cute scene of Eden frisking Cruz and finding out he got his badge back. I love them.

Gretchen & Lizzie? I'm here!

I liked Scott & Cheryl!

Yes. I believe in the original story, he was going to be the 3rd triplet.

He was a cop. Ricardo. They paired him first with Paula, then Gabi. He was fire with Gabi.

He was GORGEOUS as Ricardo! And he could act!

Lydia Saunders

Yes. I believe initially that year though, Robert disappeared for a bit and she was paired with Craig Hunt. Then Robert came back and she went back to him. Then Quinn and Flame/Debra London. Re-watching some of that storyline and Flame was such a wild unique character. I LOVE HER!!!

Yes! Angela was the last GREAT new character on SB. She was one of the few things that kept me watching that last year. Agreed that the show should have been handed over to Carrington's Kelly. When Marcy almost left in 1990 (for Bar Girls), that's what Pratt and Conboy were setting up- Carrington actually aired more than Marcy that year. That was their big mistake.

You guys, watch this music video. I relate the words of the refrain (and the constant images of the blue eyed blondes) to the climax of the Lisa/Eden storyline, on the cliff. Note the stock footage used for the water in the video.

I watched it as a child. The violence of the rape was somewhat traumatic (I had to look away at times). Marcy rose to every challenge they threw at her. It's why I miss her so. Marilyn was killed in a drunk driving accident. I believe we were led to wonder whether it was Angela or David that was driving. If I'm not mistaken, it turned out that it was indeed Angela behind the wheel. I believe Cassandra is the one who found out the truth. In a word, no. She actually plotted some of the best stories the show ever did. IMO, she was the strongest head writer the show ever had.

Zimmah. The thing that ate Santa Barbara. I think Augusta was trying to, in the end, goad Dash into attempting to date rape her.

I've always felt that the Augusta/Dash storyline was misunderstood by everyone involved. Misunderstood was a recurring theme in Dash's character. Poor Eileen. She was put in a terrible position by production.

So I found this set of scenes from 18 years ago, but it's the scene between Ric and Kelly that I've remembered all these years. Carrington Garland was new and still a little green here. Peter Love, who played Ric, I believe had some experience from either Ryan's Hope or Capitol. But this shows you what I mean about Carrington having chemistry with her scene partners. This was her very first romantic pairing on her very first soap and she's a natural!!!

It's quite odd because she was popular on SB, the fans missed her (and Marcy) and some may have even followed her to another show, what with the dip in quality of SB in its final year. I have to say I'm watching a taped fan event with A & Marcy right now from 1991. Tom Eplin is also there and at one point, he talks about how they used to watch SB on the monitors at AW (Linda Dano has also spoken on this- she loved A & Marcy and SB). He says that the producers would look at the scenes and tell them, on a higher rated show, to watch how A was doing something and ask them to emulate it. I just thought that was a real nice thing to say. I've always been fond of Tom Eplin and thought he had chops. Jake was a great character in his own right, probably my favorite, most complicated male character on Another World. Anyhow, I've completed the split personality storyline and I'm happy to say it's so much better than I remember it. Marcy was very lucky that Bridget and Jerry came back to right the ship at that point- otherwise, God knows where that story would have gone. Marcy was always one of Bridget & Jerry's supporters and can be seen on her feet, along with Nic Coster, when Bridget gave her infamous Emmy speech. You notice how In spell Bridget Dobson's name- well guys, that's how it used to appear in the credits, I've convinced myself! No matter how she spells it now, she'll always be Bridget to me.

I think you're dead on with both of those assessments. I don't think they meant for Kimberly to be long-term either, just to continue the story. As for Carrington on Y&R, I remember reading that she auditioned a few times for them. Too bad nobody ever snapped her up. I could see Carrington not being the best auditioner but she was such a hard worker and always had chemistry with her scene partners, especially her romantic ones (Peter Love, Roscoe Born, John Callahan).