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True. Although Jennifer's (Barbara's daughter) death seemed mostly designed to let Craig back into Johnny's life. I suppose some of it is due to the revolving door of IIC. Maybe it's a little more realistic not to have gatherings where every newcomer in town gets invited to...but considering they'd throw a party at the drop of a hat, it just seems odd. I can't recall the Lewises ever sitting down to a meal at home, around a beautifully set table. Thanksgiving '89, they are slumming it down at Company, eating off the equivalent of lunch tables and folding chairs.

You get the feeling Irna really didn't like Chucks. Lol

A) who is Chuckie? The only Chuckie I knew was Lisa's son on ATWT B) it's not just me? It's not that people didn't gather and celebrate, it's that you never have that big moment of everyone gathered at a table . You never knew who'd host it that year.

LOL.....no, I don't think so. But I always thought it was strange they seemed to cut it right before dinner, when it would take hours to bake it in the oven. Especially in that tiny oven of Emma's, that had to be in use for hours to produce all that food!

I loved Switch! Speaking of...you've got Eddie Albert and Robert Wagner. Eddie didn't really have a hit after Green Acres, and RJ's BIG hit was Hart to Hart, after middling attempts like It Takes a Thief and Switch.

Now that's something I would love to see. While I love GL, I think because they lacked true matriarchs for so long, the holidays usually felt a little lacking. There's not a lot of traditions going on. The one tradition of GL's that I can recall is the years when the cast and crew sang over the closing credits of the last episode before Christmas.

So, as long as this is Thanksgiving weekend, what Thanksgiving did you like the most? For me, it's Thanksgiving '89. There's tension at the Lewis/Shayne feast, it being Dylan's first with the family still not knowing Billy's his dad, Ed and Mo recommit to their marriage and Billy and Vanessa end up in bed.

I can't think of a better recast that was dumped for a worse reason. It was probably a miracle I liked him, given that he was quickly stuck with Rose.

Ugh...Gaskill as Dylan was just terrible. I'm not even sure what the point of Dylan being in town was. He doesn't interact much with his family. I can't even bear to watch Scott as Billy. The circumstances were out of his control, but it left such a huge gap in Springfield. Billy was written off in six months. I had seriously even forgotten there was a recast.

GL John Bolger as Phillip Spaulding. Bolger wasn't a bad actor, but he never won over a majority of the viewers. He's stuck in some "Phil now wants to write" story with horrible black and white vignettes among other less inspired drama. It left such a sour taste, TPTB never tried recasting Phillip again--it was Grant Aleksander or nothing. Michael Dietz as Alan-Michael Barbara Crampton as Mindy ATWT Christina Chambers as Molly. Just completely wrong for the part. It was so bad, she was quickly written off in spite of being in the middle of a hot story, Jack's disappearance/amnesia, and wasn't heard from for nearly five years.

Ugh...they just had to pull Reva into it. RME.

I don't think I could've ever really seen Ross/Blake as anything other than Ross' mid-life crisis with Sherry in the role. Her Blake had done so many rotten things, I never truly would've believed she loved Ross. As good as Sherry was, I would've always been waiting Blake to return to her selfish ways. Glynis? Nope, I don't think she ever would've been accepted. She didn't have HBS' warmth or chemistry with her costars. And she looked ridiculous trying to be a cop. Her lack of stature (which wasn't her fault) worked against her. While Dolan isn't the warmest presence, she had a lot of chemistry with her costars. Hal, Margo, & Jack is still one of my favorite friendships on soaps. I do think in BC's first run, she's really just there to sell the romance with Phillip. I don't think a lot of people would've expected her to be brought back in the role. And Simms does get a boost by being part of the Musketeers and then being on her own. Her romance with Nick is arguably more successful than any of Rick or Beth's. Later, I feel Rick and Beth suffer with their unhealthy reliance on each other and Phillip.

Mark Harmon is someone you don't realize had hits/misses before NCIS. That's interspersed with TV movies playing Ted Bundy and Thomas Capano, Uncle Charlie in a remake of Shadow of a Doubt, and films like Summer School, The Presidio and remake of Freaky Friday (1977) Sam ('79) 240-Robert (with John Bennett Perry and Joanna Cassidy) ('81-'82) Flamingo Road ('83-'86) St Elsewhere ('87) Moonlighting* recurring, infamously Maddy's baby daddy ('91-'93) Reasonable Doubts ('95-96) Charlie Grace ('96-'00) Chicago Hope ('03-'20) NCIS

oh, Crampton was just so terribly cast. I think better of Keifer and Dusay, but the writing declined precipitously after Curlee's departure.

Well, full disclosure, Nola/Kelly/Morgan was the story that hooked me as a preteen. And at the time, I was reading adult romances (rapemances) that wouldn't sell today, not to mention eagerly awaiting the latest from VC Andrews. As much as these things should've always been questioned, I know it's today's optics that make them squeamish. (I'm sure anything "entertainment" had been doing similar since the dawn of man.) I don't think Marland was doing anything more than reacting to the times.

i don't quite get the timing of Marland's remarks. Vigard was only in the role for about a year and a half. She and Jennifer arrived shortly before Vanessa in 1980. Kelly and Morgan are married in August of 81. So, obviously, Kelly and Morgan marrying was the goal. Not that it really matters. The double standard re: Kelly is egregious, especially, as he's the one then turning around and screwing Nola. If there's a moral to the tale, it's Nola winding up pregnant, and having to grow up, and not making the mistake of marrying the patsy who she doesn't love and ruin both their lives.

I miss the shows so much around the holidays. I think ATWT more, because they had a stronger sense of holiday traditions.

Happy Thanksgiving! Damn I still miss the cutting of the Hubbard Squash.

If I had to choose, yes, Sherry definitely blew me away as Blake. Keifer's Blake was less jagged and self-destructive. But I think the audience accepted her readily, in part because of the physical similarity to SS and because SS quickly moved on in her career with NYPD Blue and then ER. I know you mean Judi Evans. Personally, I like BC's first run better than her second, where Beth turns into a neurotic mess. That the audience accepted her and Kimberly Simms as part of the Musketeers so easily is either because they made it work, or maybe that the audiences were less critical at the time. (Although the massive failure of someone like Glynnis O'Connor as Margo around that time suggests otherwise.)

You mean a fan fic? I wouldn't be offended. Your work, your rules. If you believe in it, go for it.

Oh, yeah....that's really not what I got out of Kelly/Morgan. Granted I was that teen, and I probably didn't see either them having sex or most of Morgan's "suffering", which probably refers to her rape. Uhm, and how come no one at Standards and Practices seemed concerned about a grown ass man having sex with a 17 year old? A very immature 17 year old at that?

Why would you recast Amelia Marshall? All they probably had to do was ask her back. Morons. Getting her back might've gone a long way to viewers accepting Tillford (who I'd forgotten about.).

Guiding Light had a string of successful recasts in the late 80's-early 90's. Kimberly Simms as Mindy, Beth Chamberlain as Beth, Sherry Stringfield as Blake and Rick Hearst as Alan-Michael. I'd even add Liz Keifer as Blake.

I'm not sure what they call those storms in the Mediterranean, but that's where the storm was. Mark and Amanda go there, and Mark is washed overboard and feared dead. They had a very deadly storm in Spain last year that caused severe flooding inland, which you don't really think would happen.

While I agree it's a bit of a head scratcher, and I'm sure the conclusion would've been different had Marland stayed, it gives Amanda and Vanessa something to sink their teeth into. I wonder if it also wasn't a way to cut back Chris Bernau's workload. We don't know how his health was at the time.