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Tina Burner reminds me of Cherry Pie, just not as good. I've never read up on the nitty gritty details of Cherry Pie, but she was definitely talented as a queen.

I just binged The Undoing. It was very good! It's only 6 episodes, so it was simple. I don't know what Nicole Kidman is doing to her lips and face, but she needs to stop. She also needs to stop playing roles where she's the mother of a 10 year old. She's been doing that for last 20+ years. Even though I binged The Handmaid's Tale last November, I'm rewatching it again; into the 3rd season already. I can't wait for this and You to return this year.

Dear God! LOL Her face looks so... sharp. Girl same. They should've waited until her face settled to bring her back.

Hello fellow Chicago area native! I actually grew up in Naperville :) oh the secrets and scandal of that town. So many Republican families in that town seemed to breed a lot of gay children! P.S. the western suburb was Hinsdale ;) the rich man worked in the Gold Coast though. And yes, you’d think the class conflict of city vs. suburb would be a great jumping off point to get tension going for a series.

Ask Dr. Kimberly Shaw from Melrose Place...

I watched the SLC reunion and it was fabulous. You know, I have to laugh every time you see Jen smirking about something, like when Lisa was talking and making points about something and you'd see Jen with a side smirk, basically letting us know Lisa was full of shi†. But anyhow, the venom towards Lisa was quite something, and like @Soaplovers said, you would easily replace Jen with Lisa as the show's villainess. And it really works. The Ice Princess, or Fabulous Ice (thank you @Taoboi), for as icy and cold as she is, her confidence and assurance makes her for a much better adversary than Jen could ever be. And, like Andy, I was waiting to see the ice melt at some point, and it finally did as she talked about her love for her sons. Mary gave me the giggles. Ooh, she wants to come back for a second season and I loved her blunt statements. I was a little surprised (as was Heather, but it was glossed over) when Mary casually said she doesn't think Heather likes her either. My one gripe, as with all post-COVID quarantine reunions, is that because everyone is so far apart, there are many times when people are talking at the same time, so their words get lost in the kerfuffle. The thing about Mary is that a lot of what she said isn't always taken to heart or it doesn't pack as big a punch, because she is removed from the group. It's similar to NYC's Alex McCord throwing out all those truth bombs at the season 4 reunion, but getting dismissed by the brunettes & redheaded Jill on the other side. The "but I don't WANT to be your friend. Don't you get that?" was hilarious. Meredith looked gorgeous. Whitney's new titties were nice but a bit too large for her small frame. I'm looking forward to seeing the Meredith/Lisa/Jen drama play out in the next part, and well really, I'm looking forward to all of it. SLC has given us a fantastic freshman season! I've mentioned this in the past, but I do know Bravo was casting for Chicago ("Real Housewives of The Gold Coast" working title) back in 2010. My now-husband was dating (okay, he was the young gay secret side piece of a "straight" married man) a very rich man at the time whose wife had been cast, along with a handful of other wealthy women, even though they technically didn't even live in the gold coast neighborhood of Chicago; they lived in one of the western suburbs. Anyhow, it fizzled out because the women they chose weren't bringing a lot of drama and were keeping their secrets locked down tight. Good thing, cuz my husband could've very well been outed as the wife's husband's secret gay black lover down the line!

Reva's stalker in early 2003 was supposed to be Jonathan (a year and a half before they casted Tom Pelphrey).

I am HERE for whatever Monique Samuels is serving!!! I love that "preview" clip. Well done lol. I haven't seen SLC Reunion yet, but I thought it was strange how Lisa's dismissal of Heather early on in the season (Lisa saying she didn't really know Heather and referring to her as a good-time-girl in college) was pretty much dropped after the luncheon event.

Wow, I didn't realize this Melrose thread has been so active in recent weeks! So, for the past 3 years straight, I've gotten into this habit of watching MP at work around January to February. It's become a tradition! Two years ago, I did seasons 1-2, last year 3-4 and started getting into 5 but stopped. Last month, I randomly watched the first season's Christmas episode which got me into watching the majority of season one all over again. I am loving the recent discussion because I echo so much of what's been discussed... - The reintroduction of Peter sucked the life out of Amanda. Indeed, she became a different character when he was around, and the majority of the time, Amanda Woodward seemed miserable with mopey Peter. - I 100% agree Alison was the heart of the show. Even as an ensemble in Seasons 2-3, there was a feeling until Season 4 that the focus of the series still revolved around her and her life struggles. Season 1 is basically all about her and Billy. The focus started shifting more towards Amanda as the lead in season 3 (see: cancer story) and continued that way in season 4 through the end. - I love season one. I love the innocence of it. Granted, if the show stayed the exact same way as it was in the first half of S1, I highly doubt it would've made it beyond a second season. The first season is why we rooted for the OG's so hard, versus the rush of new characters in Season 5 and 6. That first season established them very distinctively. Yes, many characters' personalities did a 180 eventually, which is why we cared so hard when they weren't written in character (i.e. Alison serving drinks at Shooters by the end of Season 4 and throughout 5, when she was so clearly established as someone who wanted to work her way up the ladder to become the very best she could possibly be). - Yes, these characters were friends, not just neighbors. But it's funny how there is a clear shift in how the show is presented as soon as Heather Locklear joins. Yes, the friendships are still tight (Alison/Jo, Jane/Alison, Jake/Billy, etc.) but they ditched the endless group party scenes or moments where the entire complex congregates to celebrate/mourn whatever is happening to one person (usually Alison, sometimes Jane). Once Locklear joins, it's immediately heavy on the Alison/Billy/Amanda story, then Jo/Jake and their ups and downs, and towards the very end of the season, then comes Jane/Michael/Kimberly. Rhonda and Terrence's story is backburnered, save for the 1-2 episodes where Rhonda's uptight former roommate (the girl that appeared in one episode between Sandy leaving and Jo joining) reappears as their interior decorator for the house they're about to move into. - But getting back to the topic of whether these people actually liked one another, I think Melrose suffered the same fate as many daytime shows or other primetime soaps, where eventually it just doesn't seem organic for these characters to be in one another's orbit anymore. You get that problem like daytime soaps have where you "have to" have these characters interact and/or hook up, because there's only so many people on the canvas. I can buy pretty much anything from the first 3 seasons, but starting in Season 4 and certainly into Season 5, you really have to wonder WHY so many of them don't move? Or why they don't cut so-and-so out of their life for good? (And really, WHY did Kimberly last beyond Season 3? That in itself was a HUGE stretch). @juppiter To answer your January 31st question, I'd push through Season 5 and see how you're feeling it... I find myself loving Seasons 1 through two-thirds of Season 4 as the golden years, and beyond that, it's watching out of devotion for the show (like a soap that's seen better days but you hope for a resurgence). P.S. It's ridiculous how they constantly rewrote Amanda's backstory and family upbringing. Did her Models Inc. mommy ditch her at the age of 6 or 16?

I'm down with that.

Awww, of course it's Garcelle, and the Beverly Hills hags will always hate on the ones who don't really need the show to survive/thrive/feel pretty & popular. Looking forward to SLC's reunion. I love the winter wonderland set! I haven't kept up with their social media accounts, so I don't know what kind of drama has unfolded since filming, but there's always that insulated innocence of the first season of any housewives franchise that morphs into strategy and camera mugging as they start getting viewer feedback in the second year. Overall, this is a great crop of women (though Jen will have to go on an additional apology tour and keep her tantrums in check for Season Two) and I, too, see shades of Potomac potential.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffconway/2021/02/05/susan-lucci-and-her-heart-of-gold/?sh=18e49e033afb&fbclid=IwAR3gtoXrB5mv0LPMM8bUd56DauWEWmMUQFi846OvdOTylrX45BUltwrhc0Y Now if you believe you have seen the last of Lucci as “Erica Kane,” you may want to think again. There have been talks of a new primetime series being developed titled Pine Valley, which is the name of the fictional town All My Children was set in. Lucci’s friends and former AMC colleagues Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos are said to be attached as producers to the project. When asked if fans will see “Erica Kane” live on another day, Lucci replies, “I certainly would welcome playing this amazing part of ‘Erica Kane’ again. Wonderful to have the opportunity to work with Kelly and Mark again. You know, it looks like it's going to happen.”

My friend/acquaintance Jeff Conway writes for Forbes and just completed doing an interview with La Lucci on Wednesday. A bunch of us asked him to ask her about the Pine Valley reboot and if she's been asked to join. I'm certain he asked; we'll know her answer soon

I follow his Instagram; he gives good workout advice. Very, um, inspiring... 😂

OC: Definitely ditch Kelly Dodd. I've never understood her hype from the get-go. Just a crass, sloppy-sounding, ignorant woman. I'm over Shannon. Braunwyn murdered herself and I'm not sorry to see her go. If Tamra returned, alongside Heather (I'm down for that), I could see them keeping Shannon because Shannon and Tamra would no longer be the BFF's; they'd be enemies. Interesting to see Andy Coken (spelling error intended) chime in with the "reboot" remark. Clearly, big changes are in store for OC going forward. Good. SLC: On one hand, yes, it's sad to see the finale already happening next week. But on the other hand like @Cat mentioned, they really can't ride this Jen Monster Mess for anymore episodes. Other than Jen going batshi† crazy, I really liked the dynamic between Meredith/Lisa and Heather/Whitney spending time together. For awhile, I thought those two groupings would steer clear of one another, but Meredith and Lisa behaved like mature adults and accepted Whitney's apology and moved on and strived to have fun and *engage* together. The hypnotist woman was kinda kooky. And too many chachkis in her home. I wanted to shove everything off her crowded coffee table. Side note: I appreciated Meredith's confessional remark about why she disengages from intense confrontations; it triggers her upbringing, being in between two quarreling parents. Makes sense. Those lil nuggets of info help round out why they behave the way they behave. Now as for Jen, there's no excuse for her behavior, unless having cameras surrounding her trigger a cookadoodledoo response. I swear, she has blind rage and doesn't realize the things she says and does. She looked legit confused when Heather rightfully called her out on all the awful things she said and did to everyone single one of them. LOL at everyone boldly raising their hand saying they don't trust Jen. Anyhow, looks like the finale at Heather's opening will be good. Glad they included Mary.

Teresa's tagline is too long, lol... I liked Margaret's the best. Overall, they're not so bad, just very wordy. I'm actually looking forward to their return. Oh, if those walls could talk... I couldn't agree more with your assessment of Rinna. Her thirstiness is written all over these photos. Notable no-shows: Only 2 from NYC? Gosh, I miss Tamra. Can't believe it because OC always flies low on my radar but she is so needed.

To me, the Elizabeth vs. Braunwyn blowup at the reunion came out of nowhere. And Elizabeth getting all butthurt saying Braunwyn is cooing about how great her ex-husband is literally did not happen. I'm not really feeling Elizabeth at the end of the day. A little too thirsty, and not naturally charismatic. They'll probably give her a second season, but I wouldn't miss her if they dropped her. I see Kelly was trying to pull another Kim Zolciak moment ("don't do that to me, Andy." i.e. "protect me here, dude!") with Kelly saying Andy was making things worse re: her social media backlash. Kelly Dodd and Candiace from Potomac are cut from the same cloth. They can be so bold and nasty on social media, and then backtrack and play innocent when called out in person. Not gonna work, ladies. Meh. Glad it's only a two-parter. OC needs a major retooling for Season 16.

Thank you Jesus. What a wonderful sigh of relief. I'll sleep soundly tonight

With NYC having to halt production (and postpone a trip) due to a castmember getting COVID, I wonder if they'll break the fourth wall about it, or gloss over it. I can see them admitting who had COVID, but hiding the fact that castmembers are irked by that person for postponing filming, and therefore prolonging their filming season, as they're at the finale point. With all the 4th wall breaks these days on Housewives, one thing they still like to keep under wraps for the most part is all the logistics put forth in filming/pre-planning, etc.

Did I miss the discussion here about Brawnwyn announcing she’s not returning to OC next season or does no one care? 😂

I have to agree re: Kenya. The hateration has grown stale. We know what she has, we know what she doesn't have, we know what she wants... and her hating just reflects all her own insecurities. If she does it merely to stir the pot for television, well again, it's grown stale. Drew and her fineass husband are on another show. It actually felt weird having her call in to Cynthia (or was it Porsha?) to check in with them at Kandi's event. She feels like a completely random woman interspersed between scenes. Has she been to one event yet with all the cast? Cynthia's daughter Noel continues to WOW me every time she's on screen. Just a stunning beautiful girl. But please detach yourself from your phone every once in awhile unless you intend on needing glasses by age thirty. Porsha continues to give me the giggles from time to time. Other than that... Meh.

I'm not feeling Mary's look but I like the rest overall. I didn't realize they already filmed the reunion! Anyone know the total episode count it'll be? Wednesday was episode 10. RHOSLC: Rolling my eyes at Jen not taking accountability for her own actions/reactions. Was Whitney wrong to bring up the gossip at Jen's hubby's party? Absolutely. Did anyone force Jen to go apeshit and start throwing glasses and having a meltdown? Nope, that's on you boo. I love seeing Heather's self journey towards being a strong, independent and happy woman. I foresee Heather eventually settling down with a black man. I don't know why. A black husband, gay best friends, and drinking on the weekends while twerking with her cousin. I think that would make her life blissful. I don't know if I buy the reconciliation of Meredith and Seth. I think the lovey-dovey stuff is a bit overkill, kind of like when OC's Shannon and David Beador were overly horned up on their vacation after their vow renewal. I could see the honeymoon phase dying quickly and them going back to their old problems. The meeting of successful women in the yurt tent was... funny. I love how they glammed up the yurt, and I'm all for female empowerment, but it also strikes me as cheesy, having these women patting themselves on the back like that. "Yay us!" Gag. Jen already breaking the 4th wall with that dirty tub splash. Anything for a Teresa Guidice table moment. Overall, another good episode! Whitney was messy to bring up the gossip at the party, but she's still more mature than Jen to be able to take ownership of her mistakes and apologize.

Yeah, the real world events have definitely dampened the spirit of dishing about Housewives, but here goes.... NJ: Great promo! Looks juicy and messy with all the couples going through stuff. Yikes. Their cast photo is the epitome of Jersey: overly done up and spray tanned to the max. Although same could be said for Beverly Hills' overly done glam, just with lighter shades of spray tan goo. Who'd o' thought we'd have another 3 straight years of the same cast, the way we thought Caroline/Jacqueline/Teresa/Melissa/Kathy would never end? Yet, this current crop of women don't feel played out yet. Good. ATLANTA: Okay, I know I'm going to hell for saying this, but I finally realized who Riley reminds me of... Cleveland Jr. from Family Guy. It's something about the voice. I lower my head in shame though stifling a giggle. OC: That was such a ho-hum finale to wrap-up a ho-hum disappointing season. It felt like the finale party on the beach was filmed weeks after everything else. So Braunwyn officially came out. Yay. So Kelly was overly harsh on Braunwyn. Whatevs. So Shannon's friendship is all about ME-ME-ME to Gina the way she was ME-ME-ME to Tamra and used Vicki as a deflection as her marriage was falling apart. Bottom line: Shannon is a shi† friend. I really don't think she creates any genuine friendships from this show; it's strictly for the cameras. Surprisingly, Gina and Emily came out this season the best. With the OG's gone, it felt kind of weird having Emily be the last castmember to get the write-up at the end. Ditto it felt weird hearing OC's iconic wrap-up music being used for this B Team. I dunno. It was a crappy season. They could've scrapped it altogether and I wouldn't have blinked an eye. Reunion will probably be everyone ganging up on Braunwyn. Whatevs....

I wanted it cancelled when the rich family's daughter stabbed her professor in the back in broad daylight in the park and the dude STILL KEPT RUNNING!! WTF?! LOL... messy, messy...

Add Ronn Moss and Winsor Harmon to that list. All the Hollywood has-beens trying to protect their dwindling residuals.