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23 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

So was Days only preempted in certain areas or the whole area? 

Days no longer cares and just shows it on peacock whether preempted or not?

DAYS cares if it airs or not! It's NBC that doesn't care.

SUSAN SEAFORTH HAYES JOINS TOP 10 IN "DAYS" EPISODE APPEARANCES...

3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Nowadays fans are up in arms about pre emptions for major political events, imagine the outcry if Days was interrupted by a report about the moon.

How times have changed. That whole race to the moon was deemed big news. Did the average viewer really care?

5 of the first 7 "Days" preemptions were for the moon:

Thu. 11/25/65      NCAA FOOTBALL: OKLAHOMA VS. NEBRASKA
Wed. 12/15/65    GEMINI 6 & 7 RENDEZVOUS COVERAGE
Thu. 3/17/66       GEMINI TITAN 8 PRESS CONFERENCE
Thu. 6/16/66       SURVEYOR LUNAR MISSION PRESS CONFERENCE
Tue. 7/12/66       ALL-STAR BASEBALL GAME
Fri. 11/11/66       GEMINI 12 COVERAGE (AGENA TARGET VEHICLE LAUNCH)
Tue. 11/15/66     GEMINI 12 RETURN/SPLASHDOWN

Then there were none again until 1969:

Thu. 3/6/69       APOLLO IX SPACE WALK
Mon. 7/21/69    APOLLO 11 COVERAGE OF MOON TAKEOFF
Thu. 7/24/69     APOLLO 11 RETURN/SPLASHDOWN
Fri. 4/17/70       APOLLO 13 LANDING
Fri. 2/5/71          APOLLO 14 MOON WALK
Fri. 7/30/71        APOLLO 15 MOON LANDING
Fri. 4/21/72       APOLLO 16 LAUNCH
Thu. 4/27/72     APOLLO 16 RETURN/SPLASHDOWN
Tue. 12/19/72    APOLLO 17 RETURN/SPLASHDOWN

And since 1973:

Tue. 4/14/81      COLUMBIA SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING
Tue. 1/28/86      CHALLENGER SPACE SHUTTLE EXPLOSION
Thu. 10/29/98   JOHN GLENN RETURNS TO SPACE ON DISCOVERY SHUTTLE
Tue. 2/4/03      COLUMBIA SPACE SHUTTLE MEMORIAL SERVICE

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

Since 2015, DAYS has had national preemptions *only* for sports and presidential inaugurations (if you count the November dog show as "sports" ) .
Jason's stats:
https://www.jason47.com/days/preemptions.html

In contrast. GH calls preemptions for many news events.

I think it's more that NBC doesn't care if much of the country doesn't see "Days" in its regular time slot and is forced to watch it on Peacock. In fact, that happened even before Peacock was created. It's been that way, since you mentioned, since at least 2015. There have been many episodes of "Days" fully preempted in almost the entire country for special reports and it no longer matters to NBC. The old rule was that if 20 minutes of an episode was preempted on the East Coast (or to a lesser extent, the West Coast, since the episode had already aired in a majority of the country), that would trigger a national preemption for the entire country and the episode would be pushed back a day. Now, whether they air special reports or not, the episodes continue to air as planned, regardless of how small of a percentage of affiliates air the episode.

NBC's scheduling note, like last week, states that it is an optional special report for any affiliates airing "Days" while the hearing is on.  

On 6/11/2022 at 7:21 PM, Paul Raven said:

I wonder if at some point in the 50's the hired help were fired as the Carey's had to do some belt tightening when the movie roles dried up?

He had the security of a Paramount contract in the 40's.

After some additional research, I found another unexpected Days actor to have had a maid in 1950 as well: 3-year-old Jane Elliot. Her dad was an attorney. I found one mention of her real last name in a 1965 interview she did: Stein, so that got the ball rolling on finding her in the 1950 census.

Here's John Aniston (Victor), then 16 and listed with his Greek last name Anastassakis, living with his family in Eddystone, Pennsylvania. 

14 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

Jason, that's a hoot and a half! Very cool info!

Very!  I'm quite surprised and happy to see that the 1950 census is now already searchable by name. It was only released 2 months ago, so I thought we wouldn't be able to get the search-by-name feature available until some point in 2022, but it only took two months!   

Seeing Jim Reynolds, I've learned he was actually born in Kansas City and raised in Oskaloosa, so that's new info to me (I found a newspaper article to verify that as well).

Also, Mac Carey was already rich enough in 1950 to employ both a live-in nanny and maid!

"DAYS" CAST IN THE 1950 CENSUS...

Here's Bill Hayes (Doug) in the 1950 census. He's listed as a 24-year-old "television entertainer", living in New York City with his wife and two children.

Here's Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie). Then known as Susan Seabold, she lived in Los Angeles with her mother, future "Days" head writer Elizabeth Harrower (then listed as an actress).

Here's Suzanne Rogers (Maggie) in the 1950 census. Rogers, then known as Suzanne Crumpler, was 6 years old and living with her family in Petersburg, Virginia.

Two-year-old twins Deidre Hall (Marlena) and Andrea Hall (Samantha/Hattie) lived with their parents in Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan.

Here's 3-year-old James Reynolds (Abe), living in Kansas City with his parents and two brothers.

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

Did any of these actors actually pop up periodically?  I think Mike/Donna might have appeared once or twice more to finish up their stories and obviously Sam cam back to die, but they were never used in a recurring capacity, correct?

6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Some articles dealing with the Days drama at that time

March 13 1980

Big changes over at "Days of Our Lives" include a new head writer. Nina Laemmle has taken over for Elizabeth Har-rower. Ms. Harrower, mother of Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie, "Days of Our Lives"), might Just return to "Young and the Restless" where she got her soap opera writing start. With Harrower's departure will come the usual exit of stars. Eileen Barrett (Stephanie) has already left, and it looks like Margaret Mason (Linda) may be the next casualty. Of course, many storylines will suddenly come to a halt and new ones will begin. 

April 20 1980

 Days  fans feel cheated as plots fizzle out  NEW YORK — Things are getting worse every day on the set of "Days of Our Lives” Folks on the show don’t know from one day to the next whether they’ll still have a job at the end of the week The venerable and once-Nielsen-ratlngs queen of the soaps has fallen on dire times and desperate measures continue to be taken.

The move to “alter” the cast and character lineup on the show began last month when a new headwriter Nina Laemmle was hired. But within a six-week time period more people have left the show at one time than in any other period in the show’s history. Half of the current cast has been given walking papers or they’ve been informed that their characters will be “in and out tem-' poraries” “Days” is beginning to resemble a graveyard.

Already “killed off’ have been Mark Tapscott (Bob Anderson) Eileen Barnett (Stephanie Woodruff) and Suzanne Zenor (Margo Horton). Leaving towners include Dan Barton (Earle Carnes) Robert Clary (Robert LeClare) Corinne Conley (Phyllis Curtis) Cindy Daly (Cathy Breton) Thomas Havens (Stan Kositcheck) Gail Johnson (Mimi) Debbie Lytton (Melissa Phillips) Mikey Martin (Dougie LeClare) Margaret Mason (Linda Anderson) Steve Schnetzer (Steve Olsen) John Stevenson (Terry Gilbert) and Ed Mallory and Rosemary Forsyth (Bill and Laura Horton).

Wesley Eure (Mike Horton) Tracy Bregman (Donna Craig) and Andrea Hall-Lovell (Samantha Evans) are among those who may “pop up” periodically in the story but for the time being will be put in limbo ' 

Adding those additional actors from the story above. The story does not mention the exits of John Lupton (Tommy), George McDaniel (Jordan) and Natasha Ryan (Hope).

Elizabeth Harrower
3567- Thomas Havens (Stan Kositchek)
3577- Stephen Schnetzer (Steve Olson)
3610- Dan Barton (Earle Carnes)
3613- Eileen Barnett (Stephanie Woodruff)
3615- Cindy Daly (Cathy Breton)
3615- John Stephenson (Terry Gilbert)
3617- Gail Johnson (Mimi Grosset)
3626- Margaret Mason (Linda Anderson)
3628- John Lupton (Tommy Horton)
3633- Robert Clary (Robert LeClair)
3633- Mikey Martin (Dougie LeClair)
 
Ruth Brooks Flippen
3640- Rosemary Forsyth (Laura Horton)
3643- Mark Tapscott (Bob Anderson)
3651- Corinne Conley (Phyllis Curtis)
3652- George McDaniel (Jordan Barr)
3653- Tracey Bregman (Donna Craig)
3654- Ed Mallory (Bill Horton)
3657- Debbie Lytton (Melissa Anderson)
3658- Andrea Hall (Samantha Evans)
 
Nina Laemmle
3681- Wesley Eure (Mike Horton)
3681- Suzanne Zenor (Margo Horton)
3708- Natasha Ryan (Hope Williams)

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

So Laemmle had to write out these characters and create new ones?  I wonder if she even knew that going in or what it would entail. 

As mentioned above, all the characters except for Mike, Margo and Hope were already written out before she joined the show, but yes, she definitely knew she would be responsible for creating 8 entirely new contract roles, since they all debuted in her first 13 episodes, from 3659-3671: 

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

So Laemmle had to write out these characters and create new ones?  I wonder if she even knew that going in or what it would entail. 

PFS had a much clearer idea of what she wanted to do and where she was going with these characters and new families. PFS also shifted the shows tone a lot to fit the new characters while Laemmle just kept the tone of the show basically the same and inserted new characters doing similar things lol.  The show just seemed 'younger' and 'fresher' even if PFS was ripping off GH.  I always felt Days in the late 70's and early 80's were giving their youngish leads such dour, sad stories that were 'too old' for them.  IMO, it was much more entertaining to watch Marlena/Roman do action/adventure stuff than watching Marlena loose a child, get cheated on, get divorced, and get raped in a year or so.  But I can understand fans missing the more psychological, character driven drama of the past.

I think Laemmle's failure and the failure do make significant ratings gains lead to PFS being able to change the show to her vision without much push back.  

Most of the characters were written out before Laemmle ever appears on a script. Based on what I had read years back, I thought it would be all Laemmle, but once I finally got all of the script covers, I confirmed all the firings actually happened before she arrived. The only main characters who were written out once Laemmle first joined the show were Mike, Margo and Hope.

4 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think those firings and changes were spearheaded by Al Rabin, after he was brought on as co-EP, because it all pretty much began right as soon as he got there.

He became EP in Episode # 3595, and the characters started being written out as of # 3613, so yes, that lines up with it being Rabin more so than the head writers, since the firings were split up pretty equally between Harrower, Flippen and Laemmle.

4 hours ago, Titus Andronicus said:

Laemmle didn't even know how soaps were even conducted, based on what Jed Allan said in an interview that summer. She wasn't even writing the outlines, which I assume was being done by Ruth Brooks Flippen. (I don't believe that Flippen was ever really head writer). Flippen was arguably even more out-of-date than Laemmle, not having written for TV for even longer and also having never been credited for soap work.

 

I pulled the Flippen/Laemmle script covers to check exactly what they say:

For Flippen's 25 episodes, this is how the scripts list the writers:

10 hours ago, TEdgeofNight said:

@JAS0N47It seems as though Days is all caught up after the 2 week Olympic and 1 day preemption as todays episode was clearly meant for Friday the 13th of May. Any idea how they caught up so fast? I was under the impression that with the preemptions, they wouldn't get caught up for months. Did they re-edit? 

I found out about the preemptions on November 12, which is the day I posted about it on the web. I'm guessing the people at Days probably found out a little sooner than that. They were taping April at that point, so they would have written through some point in May at that point So this was always the time frame where the episodes would get back on track. 

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10 minutes ago, Spoon said:

I hope it's a legacy female who's now a female cop, ala Hope.

She said her last name is Hunter, so I thought of Marcus right away.