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July 32? I assume that came from another site.

Posting this here just because we're all curious what the musical style will be for The Articulettes reunion concert. (see the bolded). From the PaleyCenter panel interview Feb. 28, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cELK5aAMc8 starting around 36 minutes in . . . Tamara Tunie: She’s from the projects yes she grew up in the projects in Chicago, and she used her talents to lift her out of the projects. She's a singer; and she and her girlfriends used to sing in the bathroom in high school, you know, and harmonized. And they performed in a talent show, and an agent spotted them and actually launched their careers. And so she was with a very successful girl group called The Articulettes. Interviewer Vladimir Duthiers: Who came up with that name? Tamara Tunie: Michele. Sheila Ducksworth: It's a real group. Michele used to actually sing in a group called The Articulettes. Interviewer Vladimir Duthiers . . . Sheila Ducksworth: Yes it's real. Tamara Tunie: So Michele definitely pulls from her own experience. And so she [Anita] was with The Articulettes. And then, at a certain point, she left The Articulettes to pursue a solo career as a jazz artist. So she shifted from pop R&B into jazz, and she had a very successful run there. And at that time was when she met Vernon Dupree at a rally in Washington DC; and they fell in love and married, and then started a family. And so she chose to put her career on the side, and support his political aspirations, and raise their two daughters. And she, you know, was an actor as well. So she was a singer, she was an actor, she won some awards.

I think the *characterization/history* of Anita and the Articulettes was based on Diana Ross and the Supremes, somewhat; but perhaps not the musical style? And yes Ms. Tunie said at the PaleyCenter panel that Anita's solo career was more in a jazz direction.

I read Michele Val Jean's public posts on social media. Sometimes she posts about a song from the past that she likes. She seems interested in a variety of music, including rock, soul, blues, etc, so I'm not sure what she has planned for the Articulettes on BTG. FYI, it's interesting to note that in real life, Michele Val Jean has a musical background in her real life. MVJ herself was in a *real-life* group called "the Articulettes" --- but I don't know when this was or what type of music they sang. This was mentioned in more than one official BTG interview several months ago. MVJ co-wrote two songs for Deniece Williams. The song "Blind Dating" from the album "Let's Hear it for the Boy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5rFNDyBHg The song "Hot On the Trail" from album of same name "Hot On the Trail" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTuVPliz-Y MVJ posted on twitter/instagram a picture of herself with a band, and she said that this was back when she was known as "Shelly". Actor Ted King replied to her IG and asked her about it, and she replied to his comment "We were a bar band so we did a little bit of everything, from Steely Dan to Jefferson Airplane to Gladys Knight plus a few originals thrown in." From the hairstyles of the men in the photos, it looks like late 1960s or early-to-mid 1970s maybe, I don't know? (Link to post)

(She posted the same on June 6 on both ig and twitter) https://x.com/MicheleValJean/status/1931218356595806337 Update: I see that Ted King commented on MVJ's ig and she replied. officialtedking Can we get the accompanying music to the photo? Was it Disco? R & B? What? michelevaljean @officialtedking We were a bar band so we did a little bit of everything, from Steely Dan to Jefferson Airplane to Gladys Knight plus a few originals thrown in. Direct link to Ted King's comment: https://www.instagram.com/p/DKlE4GrJQHs/c/18062433356144469/

Procter & Gamble is sponsoring the Cincinnati Music Festival! (note the BTG event Friday) https://www.instagram.com/p/DMdA7nizPZ5/ July 23, 2025 cincymusicfest IT’S CMF WEEK and the city is in full celebration mode from sunrise on Fountain Square with Rickey Smiley to the Cincinnati Black Music Walk of Fame from Earth Wind & Fire to Toni Braxton to the stories shared by LL himself at the Freedom Center the music is loud the energy is louder DON’T MISS A MOMENT it all starts TODAY see you outside #CMF2025 #feelslikeCMF

Yeah I'm glad Eva told Tomas off.

Ms. Daphnée Duplaix was fire today!

Bill tells Hayley she looks great in her new dress and and that she doesn't even look pregnant.

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There seems to be a temporary technical glitch in SON hyperlinks today on several different SON threads. Clicking sends me back to the SON thread. Here's the full link for anyone needing it: https://blog.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines/

This was originally posted on the ATWT thread in 2015 thanks to @Paul Raven Bringing a copy over here to this "All: General Retro Soap Discussion" thread. https://www.nycitywoman.com/my-life-writing-soaps/ “Welcome to your world as a soap writer,” said the head writer of As The World Turns, when she asked me to join her writing staff in the early 1980’s after two years as her assistant. At the time, there were fourteen soap operas on television and As The World Turns, which had been on the air since 1956, was one of the longest running. I was thrilled! My words would come alive on national television for the millions of viewers who tuned in every day. I thought it doesn’t get better than that. Meg Ryan, a journalism student at NYU, had just debuted in a small role in the movieRich and Famous and she was was hired to play Betsy as the female lead in what is known in soap speak as a supercouple. It had taken years for Betsy and her beloved Steve, played by Frank Runyeon, to overcome their many obstacles. They were finally about to marry when Hollywood called: They wanted Meg. We had two weeks to write her off. Our head writer was in tears; Meg could go but she refused to kill Betsy. Our executive producer was more rational and explained that soap opera couples usually only get two weeks of marital bliss because happily married couples on soaps are boring. So after the honeymoon, Betsy was in a car crash and presumed dead. (Downton Abbey fans take note.) Several months later a beautiful blond came out of a coma and, when the bandages were removed, our new Betsy, played by Lindsay Frost, was introduced. Of course she didn’t look like Meg Ryan so we made it clear that plastic surgery had been necessary because of the accident. I wrote her tearful homecoming when the “new Betsy” picked up a phone and said, “Grandma, I’m home.” Marisa Tomei was also in the cast playing a waif who married a prince in a Charles/Diana style wedding. Julianne Moore joined the show in the late ’80s playing identical twins, which was interesting for me because I am the mother of identical twins. I soon learned that developing and maintaining a soap opera is unlike any other type of television show because it is on Monday through Friday all year long. There is no hiatus and no repeats. It’s the novel that never ends and there are some essential plot twists that every soap opera writer learns to respect: When someone gets in a car, they are usually not going to make it to their destination, especially if it’s raining. A one-night stand will likely produce a child. Rarely does a woman give birth in a hospital. Elevators, remote cabins, and the kitchen floor are some favorite places. Everybody in town is somehow related. For instance: The man is your father, your uncle, and your first cousin once removed and he’s only ten years older than you! As a soap opera viewer, you will surely witness SORAS (soap opera rapid aging syndrome). For example, a ten-year-old girl goes to boarding school and when she returns home several months later, she’s eighteen, because there are more stories for teenagers than for ten-year-olds. If a character dies and the body isn’t found, he or she is likely to return. In one of my favorite story meetings, a new executive producer wanted to bring back a character who had been killed by a jealous wife and turned into a shrunken head. The shrunken head had been seen on air, but the producer was adamant. “Make it work,” he said. And so we did. Painful as it was for me, it was not unusual to be fired when new head writers or executive producers came on board and wanted to hire their own people. Therefore every time a 13-week cycle ended there was a chance you’d be let go. I was fired from As The World Turns the first time after just one cycle when a new executive producer and head writer took over the show. At the time I was a single mother in New York City and it was important for me to stay here and resist the lure of Los Angeles, where there are many more television writing jobs, so my children could have a stable life. I was subsequently called back by As The World Turns in the early ’90s and stayed on staff for several years until the head writer died and a new regime came in. Between stints I wrote scripts for the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade and Full Frontal Fashion,introductions for the hosts of America Movie Classics (AMC), and a documentary series for PBS, to name a few. The ABC’s of Soaps Every soap has a Bible written by its creator that outlines the show’s theme. For As The World Turns it was: As the world turns, we know the bleakness of winter, the promise of spring, the fullness of summer and the harvest of autumn. Like other show Bibles, As The World Turns included a description of the core families and detailed back stories of the main characters. The head writer writes long term story projections of up to two years. Following these story lines the head writer maps out the week scene by scene. She (or he) has a staff of six to ten associate writers. Each writer writes one day of the week. There are breakdown writers and scriptwriters. Breakdown writers write the narrative script and the scriptwriter dialogues it. There is also a script editor who makes sure all the days track. It’s like an assembly line that can’t break down and writers can’t miss their deadlines. If you are assigned the script for a Friday episode you know they really like your work because you are writing the script that brings the audience back on Monday. As Agnes Nixon, the creator of several soap operas, once famously said “Make them laugh, make them cry, make them wait.” On As The World Turns I was a breakdown writer, which I preferred because you got to work closely with the head writer and contribute more to the story. On Loving and Days Of Our Lives, I wrote dialogue scripts. Some soap fans think you only write for certain characters when in fact you write for whoever lands in your day. I’m often asked where I got my ideas for these highly dramatic and often complicated soap opera stories. The answer is simple—from everyday life. And no matter how fantastical the plot might seem, soap stories were very well-researched. Soap operas proudly used their story lines to cover a variety of issues. Because the audience was so broad the shows reached many people and made a difference in their lives. In the early 1960's a character on Guiding Light had a Pap smear and discovered that she was in the early stages of uterine cancer. Her brush with the disease educated daytime viewers about the test’s value. The show also tackled breast cancer by showing a character getting a mammogram on air. Both Guiding Light and As The World Turns addressed the dangers of teenage alcoholism. Another World aired a daring abortion story in the seventies and Guiding Light had an explosive storyline that brought marital rape to the forefront. As The World Turns introduced a gay character in the eighties and, in 2007, broke ground with the love story of two gay men. Several soaps highlighted story lines on the challenges faced by returning veterans. HIV/AIDS, Alzheimer’s, and multiple personalities have also been addressed. Today there are only four daytime soap operas on the air. One reason is that game shows, reality shows, and talk shows are cheaper to produce. Also, the massive audience of stay-at-home housewives who thrived on soaps has evaporated. In response to these factors prime time TV converted the soap opera format to once-a-week evening serials with such shows as Dallas, Dynasty, Hill Street Blues, ER, and, more recently, Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, Revenge, Downton Abbey, and The Good Wife. Now cable TV has entered the mix with serials like Homeland, Boardwalk Empire and Girls that are more sophisticated and racy. In the ’50s soaps, married couples slept in separate beds. In the ’60s if a couple was in bed together, one foot had to be on the floor. Today if a couple is in bed, we have what we call the figure eight sheet wrapped around the man’s waist and up to the woman’s shoulders. The advent of cable has loosened the rules because they have fewer restrictions. That goes for the internet as well, where the genre is thriving with numerous web series becoming “guilty pleasures.” So it looks like the ongoing story is alive and well and here to stay! Julie Poll has written scripts for several soap operas, The Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, documentaries and specials. She is the author of the As The World Turns, Guiding Light, and Another World anniversary books. ____________________________________________________ I have found Julie Poll mentioned on SON threads as the author of these books on ATWT and GL. https://www.amazon.com/stores/Julie-Poll/author/B001IZ1AEQ I found her on Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-poll-ab4529a/ with her experience here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-poll-ab4529a/details/experience/ She is on IMDB as "Jill Poll" and "Julia Poll" (as well as Julie Poll). https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2040174/ @JAS0N47 she mentions within the above-quoted "nycitywoman" article "On Loving and Days Of Our Lives, I wrote dialogue scripts." Jason, She doesn't list DAYS in her IMDB or Linkedin. Can you find any mention of her under any of her professional names listed at IMDB (Julie Poll, Jill Poll, Julia Poll). (I realize that IMDB is sometimes inaccurate).

What is currently airing now is *not* using anything *written* or *outlined* by Ron. If they were, Ron would be credited in the closing credits, and he's not. An actor or actors mentioned at an event (or events) that storylines would be continuing, but it was expressed unclearly, so an inadvertently inaccurate impression was given. I believe the actor(s) intended to convey that Cwikly/Ford would be continuing and wrapping up storylines that Ron had already set in motion and that might take a few months, but still, it's all Cwikly-Ford's writing since April 24 episode. For example: EJ's shooting was already a storyline before Ron left, so Cwikly/Ford are playing that out for however long. EJ/Belle was already happening before Ron left, so Cwikly/Ford are playing that out for however long. And several other storylines. Etc., etc. And also Cwikly/Ford said in their April interview "Gwen’s return was in the works before we were hired." So basically the only *new* story arcs that Cwikly/Ford have written that have aired so far, are John Black's death and funeral and the events surrounding that (which included Bope and Pandrew). Now what's airing is what the playing out of all the storylines that were started before Ron left, plus Emily O'Brien's return. -- but all written by Cwikly/Ford with their take on things. Nothing airing since April 24 was written or outlined by Ron. I think that's why the actor(s) at the event(s) said Cwikly/Ford's new ideas will start airing in the autumn.

Chelsea and Ted both being stupid today. I'm glad they eventually told Allison and Leslie to back off, but there should never have been interactions to back off from.

Same on IG https://www.instagram.com/p/DMdyX9pROYQ/ msttunie Dramatic notes indeed!🎶 Is everyone caught up with the 🫖??? 👀 #beyondthegates #cbs #paramountplus

I would have been okay with that but last month's dialogue referencing the book's "writer" ... left a bad taste in my mouth. Let that book be authorless from now on. Or better yet, let them find a new author that's not a stupid in-joke.

Oh wow. A very long Fairmont day!

I didn't miss Leslie at all. I got tired of her vamp villany stuff long ago. Over it.

Ted. Just slam the door on Leslie! WTF is wrong with you even opening the door to her?

Bill wants continuous intel on his daughters Chelsea and Naomi, and he ordered Tomas to get the intel on them. Tomas agreed to do this. At this point, is Tomas still dating Kat because he's interested in *her* ? Or is it just to get intel on Kat's cousins for Bill? (I have come to dislike both Tomas and Kat, so I don't really care. Just wondering.)

Thanks for mentioning this. I just checked and found this: Interview with Karan Kendrick (Mona) on IG live, June 11, 2025. Really great interview, Length 57:40. The first few minutes are chitchat but then they really get into it. Ms. Kendrick is amazing! I'm so glad I watched this. https://www.instagram.com/p/DKxKd9QJpyC/ June 11, 2025 beyondthegatestea What a joy to chat with @karankendrick. Not only is she killing it as Mona on @beyondthegatescbs, but she’s also dedicated to helping the next generation of artists through @thekendrickacademy! The Pride of Fort Valley, Georgia! #beyondthegates #actress #justmercy #thehateugive #greenleaf #thehungergames

Y&R "establishing shot" of the Dumas/Ashby house in the evening: zoomed in: Screenshot from the youtube of the real-life estate "Domaine For Rent - John Taylor Saint-Paul de Vence" (at about 17 seconds in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySiYwDmO3rM

Mountains in the French Riviera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massif_de_l'Esterel and here's more . . . bringing this over from the June thread . . . The maze and train are fake but the hills and house are a real place... I found it through google images, it's a real place. There are estates like this in the hills by the Riviera. in the town of Saint-Paul de Vence, France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Paul-de-Vence and/or the town of La Colle-sur-Loup, France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Colle-sur-Loup images of what seems to be this estate called "Villa Domaine des Lys" in the Cannes region https://lvhglobal.com/cannes/villa-domaine-des-lys The same building or a similar one:

CBS Studios put this video clip up on their IG account https://www.instagram.com/p/DMYPr_hS10H/ cbstvstudios protection doesn’t always mean the same thing to everyone… #BeyondTheGates #soapopera #motherhood