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The GL Vault has been a gift for a lot of this late '70s-early '80s period. The Christmas '80 scenes where they had what amounted to Elizabeth's final scenes (I don't think they were, but it was pretty much where her story seemed to tie off) where she talked with Jackie finally about giving her Phillip and leaving for Europe were impeccable; it was absolutely incredible work by Lezlie Dalton and Jackie #2 (Carrie Mowery?) even if it wasn't the same as not having Cindy Pickett. I always was fascinated with Dalton's sort of ethereal, gothic presence as Elizabeth back when old episodes used to first surface on WOST when I was in college - by then Elizabeth was someone never, ever referenced on the show that I can recall. I thought they should've tapped into and brought back Phillip's long-lost, tragic foster mother who'd raised him (and Jackie too, for that matter), especially as Phillip was circling the drain psychologically around that time. But it never happened.

It's giving Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear. Real afterschool GH-to-Oprah viewers know!

LMAO!!! does not faze me. We all knew it was coming someday. I'd still kill him off again.

I laughed out loud when I saw Sonny hit the nearest church again like Popeye's. C'mon, man, this one isn't worth it.

Definitely not yet lol. There's other names I can think of I'm sure, just none come immediately to mind. I suppose Jeff Branson is an option, but ehh.

If you think Roger Howarth could wear thin on you you don't want TSJ on this show, lol. Roger at least came back to ABC in the 2010s prepared to act, even if he can be limited or resort to corny OTT schtick. Trevor is also talented and can be very idiosyncratic, but he actively plays against and subverts almost any serious material after too long. It's trololol all the way down.

LOL I honestly don't know. When I first dreamed that idea up Cam was doing well early on in his run with the beard and all the action and stuff with Monica, etc. Then it all went to shît. You can plug any number of down on their luck name actors or returned soap vets into that role though, to fill a Jason-shaped hole in the canvas - without doing what the show ended up doing with CM, which is literally having him be nothing other than Brand X Jason whose whole personality is hosting Good Morning America on the weekends. I'll have to think on it. (Not Trevor St. John - for one thing he seems to be doing reasonably well at Y&R, for another he's already bored and I know what happens when he gets bored and starts trolling audiences nationwide, he plays a good snide schemer but is incapable of playing an earnest heroic character.)

No! I do not! Leave me alone, you demon! But he would be paired with Gina's Sarah. 🤐

LOL it's not a big deal to disagree. I just think it's a ripe character for that age range with good connections that has no real center and can be made into anything we like with a name actor. I get why other people have no interest given the current situation.

Oh, so very early indeed. I didn't know that, I thought it was under Marland. She very clearly still is lusting after him late that year and well into 1986.

The Guza I scenes with Luke, Lucky, Bobbie, Carly, Sonny, etc. could've very easily aired in primetime. I'm thinking especially about Luke and Bobbie's confrontation over him knowing about Carly, when they went deep into their past. But yes, it was all often very good. And a lot of those quality writers lingered, and still put out assorted quality dialogue or scenes despite increasing systemic rot, all the way until 2011. Then they were almost all flushed by Frank and Ron.

His taste and mindset have not really evolved past 2007-2008 IMO. Hence the many attempts at remaking Starr and Cole from OLTL on GH with Joss and [White Guy Here]. I don't think the show is as drama-averse as Y&R, but I do think it often avoids a lot of things for fear of rocking the boat with what it believes is a sedentary, senior or white audience. Which is part of why IMO we see Nina routinely humiliated for being with Sonny in Carly's place, not that I care about Nina. And part of why Spencer and Trina have had such an up and down build.

The reason GH ruled afterschool in the mid-late '90s was because of the characters and writing IMO, and those scenes ran long and were impeccably written. I always said you could've put some of the Labine and early Guza years on at night without compromising ABC's primetime pedigree, and I stand by it.

They actually did break it a bit for some of the wonderful scenes with the vets processing Ryan's death last year, IIRC - fairly well-scripted, paced time spent with Lindstrom, Kristina Wagner, JJY, etc reaching into that deep history. But I also always wondered if it was happening because they needed to fill out the episode runtime. And yeah, Frank has long been a proponent of 90 second or less scenes because he's been obsessed with the teen/youth demo since OLTL and thinks they'll change the channel if he lets it linger. I'm just so tired of it.

He definitely was when they created him - they were just marking time to get rid of Billy Miller once they had Steve back. But to me Jason is the one played out, especially as Steve increasingly resembles corned beef hash onscreen. There's nothing left and fans will never accept another recast, so I would be done with him. Whereas Drew is a blank slate you can mold into any type of romantic leading man you want. I'd take that opportunity.

I would allow Drew to have some semblance of a company on the side but put him back with the WSB/PCPD - he was a Marine/Special Forces/whatever. Which is what they should've done with bearded CM at the outset but here we are.

I'm pretty sure Hillary and Mark Derwin famously dunked on KB while barely not mentioning his name in Jeff Giles' book - referring to an actor they both worked with who just read lines strewn in hiding spots on the set.

Not if they're very different men with different people, IMO. But then I'd still not have Jason around lol.

Am I wrong to want Drew recast again after all this? He's still such a blank slate and viable character, you can remold him completely just like they should've done (and essentially did, just in the wrong way) with CM. He's a viable male lead when he's not unbearably written and yes, performed. Wrong answers only!

I have been plugging along on my YT binge through '86 over the year, and I was curious: Did Marland introduce the intense psychosexual fascination Lucinda had for Craig, or was it always there thanks to Hubbard? She's clearly deeply into him and I can remember seeing it as early as, I think, some Christmas '85 episodes. I thought I'd read they slept together eventually but I don't know when that was or the circumstances. I believe they were deeply at odds in the 2000s when Craig became a supervillain, but I don't know if that relationship ever began to mend itself. Back in those days though, he seemed to be in her blood.

Yeah, I remember hearing that (allegedly) she might've done a bit more in that episode (or maybe two) had Goutman not written her into a couple more scripts preemptively. That made her management squirrely and it became what it was. But I'm still just glad she appeared.

There are few more devoted and passionate soap alumni than Julianne, other than Sarah Michelle Gellar, maybe Kelly Ripa, a few others that don't come immediately to mind. (Alec Baldwin, I believe, has always been there for his soaps both daytime and primetime and has stayed close with Kim Zimmer.) I've always loved how Julianne never fails to bring it up and advocate for it at any major industry showcase. Guy Pearce reminded me of this recently, as he's frankly gone above and beyond for Neighbours in Australia and is still recurring on the show.

I don't know exactly how their long break-up happened or why, but it's often been put on one or both of the actors. I do know HBS was very unhappy about the ONS with Sam Rappaport though, and tried to get killed off over it. She wanted Nora to die in childbirth, she was that upset about the story. Regardless, they took to the reunion wholeheartedly when it finally occurred and it was like no time had passed, and they both were clearly thrilled both onscreen and off. Doesn't always happen that way.

I think Laura is doing a fine job. But I don't think you can properly honor the Carly/Bobbie relationship without acknowledging Sarah and yes, I'd use her. Even if not as Carly then in a role like Yvette Nicole Brown's at Epiphany's memorial.

I haven't lost hope that Sarah and/or Tamara will be allowed to appear next week. It would be a big mistake to leave them and a few others out, but I'd settle for them. And Tony Geary, who I think has to appear.