Juliajms

And he was basically face to face with Don Jr. and very close to Tiffany and Eric Jr. too. I didn't see Ivanka.

Even President Elect Biden's tweets are rational and soothing. I feel like we can breath again.

The way election workers are being intimidated and harassed is shameful.

Meanwhile Covid is not waiting on the election results. OMG. 🤣

I wouldn't worry about that too much. There could very well be more acts of terrorism, but there is no force that can take on the U.S military. These rubes and there AKs are no match. If the military sided with them (they won't, various generals have already said so) then we would be equally screwed.

I've been saying for ages that it's hubris to believe that demographics alone can save us. Latin America has a strong Catholic streak. Not everyone thinks that their economic interest is the most important thing. Obviously that's true for white evangelicals as well. By now we all know that Cuban Americans hate the idea of socialism. Until we convince more of them that isn't what we stand for, it seems unlikely we will get their votes. Oh, no. I'm really sorry to hear it. It frightens me how many people have fallen for this conspiracy theory. Part of me thinks it's that these older retired folks are lonely and QAnon/Fox gives them a sense of mission and community.

Meanwhile Fox news created the dark side. When someone who used to be normal joins the cult it's almost always Fox News at the root of it. At least some of these cultists are waking up. I think (ok hope) some of them can be rescued over the next couple of years.

I feel this way about abortion. I remember during 2016 Hilary basically said that abortion should be on demand at any time in the pregnancy and I just cringed. I think it's even in the platform, although I need to look that up. Late term abortion is not preformed on demand anywhere in this country. Stop feeding the crazies with that talk.

Thank god. That despicable woman had no place anywhere near the Department of Education.

Here's something interesting (but not surprising) that I found today. Turns out that a black man named Ernie Chambers is a large part of why Omaha has split electoral votes. This thread is worth reading, if you are interested in this sort of legislative history or just need a distraction while we wait. EC is quite a personality.

A black woman is going to be the VP. That is not a Pyrrhic victory. Children will no longer be purposely traumatized and scarred for life on our border. That is victory in this messy world we live in.

When you ask yourself why so many people have voted for that sociopath, remember that a big chunk of the answer is Fox news. Every one of those cynical bastards know that they are lying to the American people, but they laugh all the way to the bank. Over and over I've seen the same scenario play out. A person retires or loses their job and they start watching Fox "News" 24/7. Then they start to believe the Democrats are socialist who want to take their guns and are all in favor of late term abortion on demand. Democrats really don't have a good way to combat that propaganda, yet. We need to figure out how to deprogram the ones that can be saved though.

How wonderful to think that in the midst of all the division, it's looking like Kamala Harris has made history.

I read an article about how she basically packed her bags and went into the field after Trump refused to listen. She went to places like ND and other hinterlands and tried to get officials at the state level to listen.

Yes. Child separation was my number one issue. It's a crime against humanity as far as I'm concerned. Also Biden can end the travel ban, he can take in more refugees and he can halt the desecration of federal lands. He can also allow Brix and Fauci to do their jobs. There really is a lot he can do to make things better.

That was the most frightening part of this election for me. This wasn't just a battle of values it was a fight for the system itself. Before 2016 I had no idea that there was such an authoritarian streak in this country. It's clear that we are in a long term battle for democracy itself.

I think I'm the opposite. I don't know if I could have made it through the last four years if I didn't believe we would repudiate Trumpisim. We definitely have not done that, in terms of the Senate. We also elected some real crackpots to the House (as usual). I guess I just do better when I have, hope even if there is a let down later.

Thank you, Carl. I'm just glad to know that not everyone in Nebraska is snowed by that conman. I've joined a campaign for city council. We're trying to get a woman elected who actually believes in science. As you've said sometimes it's the state and local government that means more. I think that's especially true out here in red fly over country.

At least we would have a competent leader on Covid. That's something we desperately need.

Right. Waiting is very difficult. I remain quite hopeful that Biden will win though.

I'm so happy McSally lost in AZ.

I was thinking about that too. I have major love for our little thread. At least Omaha really did come through.

Even if Biden wins, I will always be stunned that so many Americans are ok with the lies Trump tells and the hate he sows. He slaps us in the face with every lie he tells and laughs about it and still millions vote for him.

I'm still very hopeful, but I certainly understand why some people are not.