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This is why creators shouldn't be the showrunners because they're too close to their creation and can't be objective enough to shift gears if something from their vision doesn't work. My issue with the show is the pacing because most of the stories are decent.. but the choice to heavily feature one of the stories for a week and then either not feature it all.. or not really mention it for awhile is not logical. Unpopular opinion: Chelsea is the weak link of the younger set and she isn't a strong enough actress to be leading a story nor being in a pairing when that airtime could be given to more talented performers.

Shanice? Maybe test him again with Hayley.

I think we're supposed to be wanting them to just break up because they're only together for different reasons: 1st serious relationship and lack of experience (Ashley) and I think the head injury made Derek decide to not wait and to go for what he thinks he should want.

You could tell Long was writing the show because she wouldn't have just reunited Josh/Reva instantly... there would have been a slow and gradual process to reunite them. When she returns in mid 1987.. she really gets to work keeping Josh/Reva apart with Josh dealing with Sonni/Will.. while Reva and Alan continue their relationship. Their mid 1989 was long awaited and worth the wait.

I also wonder if maybe Days brisk and fast filming schedule was too much for her when she went back for her last stint in 2016/7... and that's why she has turned down offers for visits since. I always thought PP was more intense in her acting then her over acting... and I also co sign that Days made the right call in her letting her go in 1992/3 (and she even said she realized by late 1992 that she couldn't do the job that she was hired to do on a long term basis).

I remember Mick also was involved in the Blake video tape story.. trying to blackmail her and that her uncle Ken beat Mick up while Meta figured out what was going on and was trying to get Blake to tell Ross about her sleeping with Ben. The main rumor I had heard was that Carmen's henchman Dietz was going to be the one that actually killed Mick after he witnessed Drew and Michelle both knocking him out.. and finished the job. Another rumor would have been that Holly would have been involved with investigating what happened to Mick and would be tied to this henchman Dietz. Sadly.. the rumors sounded better than what actually showed up on screen.

Vanessa... most people think being unfaithful is being disloyal. I love the mental gymnastics cheaters do in order to justify not being disloyal. Vanessa/Joey do have a good rapport and a toxic sexual chemistry. Question I'd like to know is why Vanessa is drawn to this.. is it a form of rebellion from her upper class upbringing (hence why she was drawn to Doug originally).. or is it something that happened in her life. Agnes Nixon would have that answer if she were head writing the show and/or created the Vanessa character.

He had gotten advice from Naomi to just go for it, but I don't think she meant for him to propose to her... but she had advised him to not wait and take action (stemming from her trauma at her dad having a stroke).

She had a recent interview where she discussed in some detail that she had a hard time when coming back for her last visit/stint in the late 2010s.. and she realized that because she had been away from acting for so long, that she couldn't control her ability not to over-act. She also said she lives 3500 miles away, has animals, and a life that she would have to make arrangements for in order to make appearances on the show. So I don't think we'll be seeing her again on DAYS for the foreseeable future.

I was recently watching 'season 1' of Bold & the Beautiful... and I had forgotten that Brooke had a whole ass relationship with a cop named Dave for the first months of the show... and that relationship eventually ended within the first months of the show before she was thrown in the Ridge/Caroline/Thorne orbit fully. So I wonder if Ashley/Derek are like that... together at the start of the show and eventually they'll break up and either end up with other people.. or are written off the show. I think the writers/TPTB know that the two aren't a match or else why all the weirdness/awkwardness between the two characters. If so, I wish they would hurry up and break the two up.. and have them move into different orbits of the show.

Julia isn't a natural pot stirrer, nor a drama starter... so like Mynique on RHOA not knowing how to read someone... Julia just doesn't know how to generate a feud on Miami. Tamra and Kenya could teach a class on how to pot stir and generating a feud.

I had that same conversation with my late mom years ago about 80s Guiding light... and she was a Reva/Kyle fan and a Maeve/Fletcher fan. In fact, my mom adored Fletcher and thought he was funny and good looking... and she also loved Jessie and Simon as well LOL And... she loved the Shaynes.. especially Rusty with Mindy and she liked Roxie.. but only with Rick and not Johnny.

I actually loved the Sonni/Solita story and the writers strike made it even more like a mystery with the red herrings, etc. Also, Michelle Forbes was a more compelling actress/presence in the role then Jane Elliott was as Carrie. The other thing was that we kind of got to see Sonni after her personalities were integrated during the last six months or so of her stint on the show and it's a shame that Forbes only had a 2 year contract instead of a 3 year contract since I was intrigued to see her dynamic with Roger develop... and her few scenes she had opposite Blake could have developed into a full on feud. Had she stayed an extra year... we wouldn't have gotten Alexandra/Roger's marriage nor do I think we would have had Roger/Mindy's affair. I think Forbes leaving at the end of 1989 caused the writers to make the above story choices.

Happy Father's Day to our BTG fathers and surrogate fathers... which all children need even if modern society thinks otherwise (Ashley on this show is exhibit A on that theory). In regards to the talk of the NuTed vs OgTed.... I'm curious if OgTed decided that the pace of daytime filming wasn't for him.. or if he didn't feel that the writing for the character was subpar. I wonder if the show hired NuTed because they wanted Ted to be passive and not to overshadow their female characters since this show. If so, then the show misfired because OgTed might not have been a versatile acting.. but he could match both SPS and Nicole's energy/presence in scenes together.

I think the problem is that MVJ probably should leave some of the day to day decision making to more experienced people. Sometimes a creator is too emotionally invested in their creation to be objective and that sometimes someone else can be more objective and fix what isn't working. Case in point... Sally Sussman's Generations struggled when it started until some heavy hitters came in and helped right the ship. And in most shows on tv, the creator of the show usually isn't the showrunner. Not everyone is a Bill Bell or Agnes Nixon.

The 1989 episode had Julie pre-Caleb being a thorn in the sides of John Dixon and the Hughes family while I finally got my answer as to the origins of Barbara's dislike of Emily ...and it looked to be near the end of Martha's first stint of Lily. I do wonder if Lily actually had feelings/love for Derek.. or if he was just someone that was available because Holden and Dusty were both not available nor in town.

Thank gosh we get some Vanessa/Joey/Doug focus next week... when we could have had a bit of focus this past week.. and less focus on Chelsea/Madison

I'm curious to see once Dani/Andre are outed to everyone.. if they'll keep things going or if they realized that the sneaking around/forbidden aspect is what drew the two together. It's apparent during filming of these recent episodes that Andre/Ashley were still being foreshadowed/end gamed. Also, I think Naomi gave bad advice to Derek because a proposal is sure to freak Ashley out even more then make her feel secure. I'm hoping that these random islanded couple issues are either going to lead to them permanently breaking up.. or something happening to Derek (i.e. killed during a fire rescue) that frees Ashley up for Andre. I think Martin probably was mugged/attacked and when defending himself he accidently beat the person to death. And I wonder if this busboy is either a relative of the person killed and/or someone that saw what truly happened and will be gaslighting Martin. Pacing is still an issue with this show... since last Friday we got movement on the Doug/Vanessa/Joey front. and they haven't been on for five episodes. I'm sure we could have sacrificed the pottery breaking scene, Chelsea acting extra with Madison, or a Leslie vs Kat scene in order to get some follow up on that story.

I think Eva being a hairdresser and being self employed taught her how to organize schedules, budget, and to anticipate the needs of those she was providing a service to. All of which are transferable skills. Ted also said that she could work to get certified so it does sound as though she's going to be given paid training/education in order to do the job. An unexpected benefit to this Ted/Eva conversation is that we got an answer as to what exactly Kat's job was before she and Chelsea decided to go into business together.

After watching yesterday and todays episodes, I'm convinced that a baby switch was done... and that Kat is Silk Press Sheila's and Eva is Nicole's. There seems to be hints of that with the emphasis on Nicole/Eva's relationship.. and also Kat and Leslie's antagonistic relationship. I wonder if this whole DNA gatherine project of Kat's will result in maybe a match between Kat/SPS... or a non match between Eva/SPS.

Izzy B also had a great platonic friendship with John. I still remember the scenes where she had to tell him she was sick and that unlike him, she wouldn't recover.

I assumed that Reva viewed Cain as someone she owed her life to since he was the one that helped save her during her attempted suicide.. so she felt responsible when he became ill. I imagine that Long would have used Cain as an obstacle/distraction for Reva as Kyle was working through his marriage to Maeve. What interested me was that Fletcher/Maeve were tested earlier then I thought with his constant visiting Maeve in the hospital in December 1985... so possibly Long had it planned out that Fletcher would have been the right man for Maeve while Reva was the right woman for Kyle. Both Kyle and Maeve came from money... so I could see Long planning to ultimately pair them with opposites in a socioeconomical sense of the word had she stayed on. I certainly know had she been headwriting the show when Newman came back as Josh.. she wouldn't have quickly reunited Josh/Reva.

MSW streams on Peacock (for members), Tubi (for free), is on DVD, and is rerun on cable.... and I know a lot of young millennials/older Gen Z's that have recently been exposed to Murder She Wrote... and they love it. It's timeless.

Another example of the dysfunctional enmeshment that the Duprees labor under. Dani freaking out about her father coming to visit as she's in bed with her boy toy totally screamed teenager instead of a grown ass woman that has two adult children. The whole family needs to be in therapy including Nicole (who probably became a therapist because of the dysfunction within the family). @ranger1rgConsidering the fact that Chelsea has been controlled by a domineering Dani... I would be more surprised if Chelsea wasn't being extra and/or pushy. She's spent more time being a model, having every move controlled by Dani, and being on social media as opposed to developing interpersonal relationships with her peers.

We all knew that TT is busy so if she's off screen for a bit except for phone calls and/or visits.. then it is what is. Ashley was nicely used as support... which the writers should have been doing since day 1 so that viewers could understand why exactly she's on the show LOL Chelsea/Madison.... seems too good to be true... we shall see. Shanice as a PT... if it means more airtime.. I'm good.