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Lujack having a kid also would have been believable. I don't think they mattered to Alan either, so that's why it could have been interesting to me - and in the end he'd go back to favoring Philip...but yes, there should have been story over Amanda or Alan-Michael resenting the whole setup, especially given what a mess Lizzie was. I wouldn't give Alan-Michael an infertility story if they had actually given him kids on the canvas, but as they didn't I wish they'd just told that story instead.

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Season 3 is probably my favorite Ginger season, and she spent half of that trying to be on her own, dating Karen's brother, etc. so I think she showed potential when she wasn't shackled to Kenny. Season 4 just had her in more of the heavy role to move Ciji's story along.

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I'm glad we avoided that (even if they punished us with Alan-Michael/Marina).

Ann Hamilton. Until retcon Gus, none of Alan or Alex's bio children had kids. It might have been interesting if Alan had become obsessed with bloodlines as he got older and Philip felt deeply hurt because he realized he and his kids weren't seen as good enough. (then again, the show just kept having Alan produce kids until his last year of life...) A sterility story with Alan-Michael also could have been interesting.

Thanks. That makes sense.

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That would have been a great idea.

I agree. I wonder what the original plans were for him. He did have the nice guy best friend energy (what Xander on Buffy should have been)

I'd guess it was down to her not being conventionally attractive. A shame as she had so much talent and presence.

That's a good point, although I think Lisa Hartman really didn't contribute much without Ciji. (I suppose she did help spare us Kim trying to sing)

I might throw Twin Peaks and Buffy on too.

It was, but it won a lot of Emmys for a time, and everyone was kissing David Kelley's backside. The show imploded pretty much the same way Sisters did.

We should also mention all the characters who were dumped from Sunset Beach early on. I question the reasons why Rae was written out, but I wasn't that surprised about Leigh Taylor Young and Laura Harring - neither was very interesting to watch. Leigh probably should have ended up on a Bell soap as that suited her style more than what she had at SuBe and Passions. Tiffany was more of a surprise for me because I remember her being heavy in the show's promotion, but Adrienne Frantz was quickly fired, and the recast didn't stay very long. And Mark (Nick Stabile). I liked him. I guess they didn't think he was hunky enough.

I still think Kim Lankford was unique enough and had a compelling enough presence to where Ginger could have worked on her own in some capacity, but the marriage with Kenny never worked and Kenny just wasn't a likeable or interesting character.

I know he has some fans here so they will probably say otherwise, but to me any successes he had were down to his co-writers. His biggest success was in the press adoring him.

Hogan Sheffer caring about a soap being grounded is like saying Megan McTavish wanted to make sure a soap was lighthearted enough.

Welcome to the board @Robert H Always nice to see more GL and ATWT fans, especially of those years (I nearly stopped in 1995 myself). That sounds about right.

I never knew she won any awards...she had a few little moments (she was good at wistful monologues), but that surprises me. I was also mentally checking out of ATWT at this time, and I also had school. My main memory of this story was Ned Simon dropping dead in the snow while mailing a letter confessing his guilt (he'd killed Linc).

Ryan's Hope had a meat grinder with Jack and Mary. I think there was a man who worked beside Mary at the news station, then an old doctor friend of Jack's whose story was curtailed due to Kate Mulgrew's pregnancy, and finally, Mary's producer, played by Patrick Horgan. Rose Alaio, whose work as Rose I dearly enjoyed, was also cut very short in Jack's life due to backstage issues. For the show's first year, mobster Nick Szabo came and went, joined by his daughter, Reenie. Whatever plans Reenie was meant to have with storyline-allergic Bucky were cut short as the character vanished, with Julia Barr having better luck in Pine Valley. There was the sad case of Nancy Feldman, who was probably on for a year and some change, played by three actresses, Nana Visitor being the longest-lasting. They wanted an interfaith love story with Pat which never went anywhere due to casting choices and lack of chemistry. I will always remember a very odd post-coitus between them where Nancy was going on about how they looked like brother and sister. Why??? I've heard that '70s NYC was trashy but not that trashy, surely. As one of about two John Blazo fans, I was very disappointed when his delicate Pat was fired and replaced by the temper tantrum Brady brother recast, one of the worst recasts of all time. Both characters were shipped out not long after. Sam Behrens was also hired for this story and must have impressed someone in the audience or at ABC, as he lingered for a while with nothing to do. 1981 started the parade of short-lived Faith love interests, whether it be cops or archaeologists, all of whom fought and lost the battle of having chemistry with Karen Morris Gowdy. 1980 and 1981 saw the arrival of the "Ryan cousins," first Barry, who had a compelling intro as a music agent who juggled two women before falling in love with one of them (Delia). As Labine and Mayer could never let Delia mature, this was all thrown away, and Barry spent months judging Delia in-between a gambling story that ended in him being dumped from the canvas. Inexplicably, just after Barry left, his sister, EJ, arrived looking for him. Her story amounted to yet another round of Delia being crazy to try to make viewers like her (spoiler alert: it did not work), and being paired with Roger, who by this time had lost any of his compelling personality traits under sanctimony and tedium. EJ also helped to expose a soap actress played by a wasted Judith Barcroft. This "story" is a big part of one of the very last Soapnet episodes. Her 1982 material is not available, but as it heavily involves a man named Ox, I doubt it is very good. Such a horrible waste of Maureen Garrett and Richard Backus (in what was maybe his only good - initially anyway - soap role). The moral of the story is don't mess with Delia.

The most egregious to me was the Shea family, where the parents were violently killed off in separate stories about six months apart. 20 years of transition...and one of the more stable periods (around 1993) was when they were nearly canceled.

You may be right. I couldn't remember as I thought Leven was into the type of music at the time that Ava was meant to be into. (wasn't she a singer)

I can see why Leven would have wanted a different part. Connie Fletcher (Erin) seems to have no credits after 2010. That whole story seemed like a stalled out mess onscreen - not surprised to know why. Niven, I think, found a home in Hallmark. I'm glad for her, although similar to various new hires on OLTL in the early '00s she seemed more like a softcore actress to me. I didn't realize she was already almost 50 when she was on OLTL.