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Compared to what has come after, it wouldn't have been a bad pairing - DTC seemed to go out of his way to trash them (and then gave Denise incredibly bad material with no followup, like having her become a drunk and abuse Patrick). Ian has been very poorly served since his return. He may as well not have come back. It says it all about how useful he is to the current team that his reaction for the Christmas episode was to rip off a scene a long-dead character had 40 years ago.

Even worse, she did not bother to properly introduce these actors beyond assuming people would love them because she loved them. She did such a bad job that even Vincent Irizarry, who had been popular with GL fans almost a decade before JFP's arrival, got a mediocre/poor response.

This has been up before, but I didn't see it when I looked through Youtube today, so I reuploaded it. If I missed it my apologies. @dc11786 @NothinButAttitude @SoapDope @Forever8 @Franko @Vee @Paul Raven @Contessa Donatella @slick jones @kalbir @John @Liberty City I like how they handled Kyle's eulogy for his cop friend, even if the scene itself was the usual cheese.

It certainly could be. Thanks.

You're right. I believed then and I believe now that JFP had no interest in soaps, and may have been outright ashamed of them, similar to Guza, Pratt, etc. She compared AW to ER, Cheers, and NYPD Blue. No show rests on one character. GL could have survived without Maureen if the show had been in a better place. Unfortunately, what Maureen represented is what JFP, and many others, saw as meaningless and boring. I remember when JFP used to say she had actually built up Maureen's role on the canvas in order to kill her off, and that's the only reason viewers were upset. So essentially, the only reason JFP had any sense of heart, community, or family on GL was to snuff it out for viewers to get upset. And this was something to brag about.

It would make sense for such a low-key exit if he comes back from the burns incredibly embittered and out to get everyone, but based on recent returns, he may just play cards for a month. (then again, they did try to get Lulu moving fast once she woke up) I don't remember the last time anyone at GH knew what to do with Lucy. Decades? At least she isn't being presented as the heavy like last year, but that's not saying much. I'm just glad Lynn is still able to work with everything she's had to go through. Thanks. I guess I'm too used to soap characters being able to do 500 jobs at once.

You'd think Spinelli would have helped. Are they still close?

AW's later years weren't that ritzy. Vicky Hudson may have been the most frugal millionaire ever seen on TV. The Love Mansion was long gone. Victoria Wyndham, meanwhile, complained in one interview about the absurdity of the Corys now answering their own door, and it's true, if you compare the Cory setup in the '70s or even the '80s to what they were by the end. Marland had a way of presenting struggles but not being down in the dirt. The Snyders always needed money, but Lily had two rich grandfathers to help save the day. And so many of them ended up working for a huge international company. Tom and Margo were middle-class, living on takeouts and working all the time, but they had a beautiful house (I loved their '90s house set).

Trudeau has been the face of attacks for so long now, and the politics that he preached (inclusion, diversity) are now a pariah. I'm surprised he has lasted this long. It's more interesting to me to see how the far right are trying to cope with Trump and his fascist clown car. Doug Ford was very openly aggressive against Trump's threats, whereas in the UK, Nigel Farage is cowering in fear, Ted Cruz style, of Elon Musk.

I don't blame you there. For me the relationship with Georgie and John and their kids was a foundational part of the show. Having Trevor lash out as he wasn't the son they were worried about (due to his brother having cancer) was believable, but the tone was so dark and bleak. It was extremely difficult to watch. And rather than giving a rebuilding period, this just went right into the therapist story, which made me sick and led me to quit watching.

Great find @MissPalmer I don't believe this is on Youtube anymore so I am reuploading. A very grounded, if somewhat brittle, interview with Claudia Lonow. The most interesting part is probably when she says she doesn't care that she isn't in the opening, she's just glad to work. And of course not long after she got in the credits she was written out...

The writing for both is terrible. I'd gladly choose "neither." More gimmicks to hide how hollow EE is now. It's nice to see Diane Parish showcased but none of this benefits Denise.

There's a second part to this I have somewhere although I don't think Eileen says a lot in it as the focus is on a sitcom actress. No Y&R clip in this, sadly, but I thought some of you still might enjoy seeing this again from whenever it was last on Youtube.

I'd like to see more of Family Affairs as well. A few popped up last year but so many are still not around. Only audio of one is available. A shame.

What survives of Lemay's AW run shows very wealthy characters who have rich inner lives and react in believable ways. And in Marland-era ATWT, you had many rich characters who were still grounded and felt real. The funny part is that the whole idea of soaps being about camp and OTT and glamour became bigger just as the budgets became smaller. Even Y&R and B&B, which were the most "glam" (although outside of some location shoots I always thought B&B looked a bit cheap to be honest), did not survive without huge slashings. You also have to ask what DOES glamourous mean in 2025? Kim Hughes sitting down in her Patterns chair had glamour...does a never-ending supply of veneers, Botox, Ozempic, and wearing American flag bikinis at Maralago? Does the increasingly desiccated Bravo circuit? That's why I don't really need whatever turgid idea of camp or money is around in recent years. I'm happy to save that for whatever Jamey Giddens/Ron Carlivati parody project is in the works next.

Thanks. One of us will have to go in and try to change it although IMDB is a horror to correct.

@John here they are (he was on more than I realized) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0284619/ Thanks for the info about Erin. I still wonder if JFP was trying to get her out in favor of her own pick, like she did with Amber Tamblyn on GH.

I wouldn't be surprised - it would explain a lot in this period. (oddly, the voiceover guy makes the Trevor story seem lighter than it actually was)

A promo I hadn't seen before. Seeing that Trevor story again gives me PTSD...the real start of the end.

Thanks as always @JAS0N47

Thanks @Franko Vague memories of that Brady Bunch episode.

Gwen Van Dam Dies: Veteran Character Actress Was 96 https://people.com/john-capodice-dead-seinfeld-general-hospital-actor-8768179

Gwen van Dam, who was on a number of times from 83-87, especially as some character named Jeanie (not sure who she was). Gwen Van Dam - IMDb Gwen Van Dam Dies: Veteran Character Actress Was 96

I'm not even sure I can find an IMDB page for her.

Thanks. I may be just thinking of the Al story she was in.