[Toups]

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Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

Ratings for the week February 23-27, 2009

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)


Total Viewers
1. Y&R 5,280,000 (-177,000/-508,000)
2. B&B 3,367,000 (-206,000/-794,000)
3. DAYS 2,905,000 (-112,000/+6,000)
4. GH 2,687,000 (-114,000/-328,000)
5. AMC 2,634,000 (-95,000/+46,000)
6. OLTL 2,594,000 (+34,000/same)
7. ATWT 2,531,000 (-32,000/-803,000)
8. GL 2,077,000 (-98,000/-665,000)


HH
1. Y&R 3.8/13 (-.2/-.4)
2. B&B 2.5/8 (-.2/-.5)
3. DAYS 2.1/7 (same/same)
4. AMC 2.0/7 (-.1/same)
4. OLTL 2.0/7 (same/same)
4. GH 2.0/6 (-.2/-.3) <------ ties low rating
7. ATWT 1.9/7 (-.1/-.5)
8. GL 1.6/5 (-.1/-.4)


Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,129,000 (-139,000/-140,000)
2. DAYS 840,000 (-60,000/-122,000)
3. GH 838,000 (-106,000/-217,000)
4. AMC 802,000 (+3,000/-71,000)
5. OLTL 776,000 (+20,000/-127,000)
6. B&B 763,000 (-78,000/-142,000)
7. ATWT 676,000 (-30,000/-222,000)
8. GL 542,000 (-75,000/-293,000)


Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7/11 (-.2/-.2)
2. GH 1.3/8 (-.1/-.3)
2. DAYS 1.3/8 (-.1/-.2)
4. AMC 1.2/8 (same/-.1)
4. B&B 1.2/7 (-.1/-.2)
4. OLTL 1.2/7 (+.1/-.2)
7. ATWT 1.0/7 (-.1/-.4)
8. GL 0.8/5 (-.1/-.5)


Girls 12-17 Viewers
1. GH 46,000 (+6,000/+5,000)
2. DAYS 37,000 (-17,000/-6,000)
3. OLTL 35,000 (-7,000/+13,000)
4. Y&R 28,000 (-8,000/+5,000)
5. AMC 24,000 (-2,000/+9,000)
6. ATWT 23,000 (same/+4,000)
7. B&B 8,000 (-14,000/-10,000)
7. GL 8,000 (-4,000/-39,000)


Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 1.0/7 (-.3/-.2)
1. DAYS 1.0/6 (same/-.1)
3. AMC 0.9/6 (same/-.1)
3. GH 0.9/6 (-.1/-.2)
5. OLTL 0.8/5 (+.1/-.1)
6. B&B 0.7/5 (-.2/-.1)
7. ATWT 0.6/4 (-.1/-.2)
8. GL 0.5/3 (same/-.2)


Men 18+ Viewers
1. Y&R 1,331,000 (+61,000/-68,000)
2. B&B 725,000 (-24,000/-312,000)
3. DAYS 612,000 (-59,000/+14,000)
4. ATWT 483,000 (-16,000/-235,000)
5. GH 480,000 (-7,000/-48,000)
6. AMC 440,000 (-85,000/-106,000)
7. OLTL 428,000 (-25,000/-43,000)
8. GL 425,000 (-19,000/-143,000)

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Day-To-Day Ratings - HH/Total Viewers

AMC
Monday: 2.2/2,961,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,644,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,475,000
Thursday: 2.1/2,734,000
Friday: 1.8/2,357,000

ATWT
Monday: 1.9/2,605,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,420,000
Wednesday: 2.0/2,459,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,690,000
Friday: 1.9/2,483,000

B&B
Monday: 2.5/3,571,000
Tuesday: 2.5/3,300,000
Wednesday: 2.4/3,226,000
Thursday: 2.5/3,440,000
Friday: 2.5/3,295,000

DAYS
Monday: 2.3/3,214,000
Tuesday: 2.2/2,816,000
Wednesday: 2.1/2,964,000
Thursday: 2.2/2,883,000
Friday: 2.0/2,649,000

GH
Monday: 2.1/2,885,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,647,000
Wednesday: 2.0/2,753,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,675,000
Friday: 1.9/2,475,000

GL
Monday: 1.7/2,235,000
Tuesday: 1.5/2,010,000
Wednesday: 1.5/1,953,000
Thursday: 1.6/2,256,000
Friday: 1.5/1,931,000

OLTL
Monday: 2.1/2,837,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,670,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,518,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,705,000
Friday: 1.7/2,238,000

Y&R
Monday: 3.9/5,407,000
Tuesday: 3.8/5,224,000
Wednesday: 3.9/5,441,000
Thursday: 3.9/5,221,000
Friday: 3.7/5,108,000

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For the SEASON September 22, 2008 through March 1, 2009

HH
1. Y&R 3.8
2. B&B 2.7
3. GH 2.3
4. DAYS 2.2
5. AMC 2.1
6. ATWT 2.0
6. OLTL 2.0
8. GL 1.6

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.8
2. GH 1.5
2. DAYS 1.5
4. B&B 1.3
4. AMC 1.3
4. OLTL 1.3
7. ATWT 1.1
8. GL 0.9

This post has been edited by Toups: 06 March 2009 - 06:45 PM

[edgeofnik]

"I don't think there is an appetite in this society right now to watch this show five days a week; they don't have the time or the energy."

Christopher Goutman - Executive Producer, Head Writer AS THE WORLD TURNS

He's actually not entirely wrong and the ratings prove it. It used to be that people watched four- to five-times a week in the 70s and 80s that dropped in the 90s and has fallen further in this decade. If you take the ratings and, say, everyone who watched the show three days a week, watched one more episode, ratings would go up by 33%. It doesn't take much (or the other way around if a five-day viewer drops to four, ratings drop by 20%). If it weren't for my DVR and the ability to store lots of episode and then do a marathon, I wouldn't be able to keep up. I don't know anyone who stays at home and watches it live everyday. I do know lots of people who tape or DVR, though.

[CarlD2]

I know a lot of people who tape five days a week but they barely watch more than a third of each episode; they just have their favorites and they have people who they can't stand, and they know what to skim through. Some of this is due to lack of time and some of this is due to the defensive position many soap fans are in now. If there was a soap which was so good that you had to watch most of every day, then the ratings for the show might hold up, but right now there aren't any.

If someone like Ron Carlivarti, a very popular writer, made this quote, I wonder if he would have faced the same reaction Goutman received. ATWT is not watchable even one day a week, so the quote seems more ridiculous coming from him.

This post has been edited by CarlD2: 05 March 2009 - 04:44 PM

[rangethatrover]

I LOVE that the crown jewel GH tanked. LOVE IT. I started to get into GH in December and the show has sucked for the last 6 weeks. That whole hospital storyline was absolutely dreadful. The what if so and so died storyline was laughably bad. GH has no balance. NONE.
I don't watch AMC. Its seemed to gain a few viewers and keep them.
OLTL sucked for the last two months. Its somewhat better but is in this weird transition phase. Way to many new characters at the forefront. Viki is a footnote. I am not the biggest Rex/Gigi fan and they are 50% of the show. And all these kids. i think Schyler is great (love the actor) but they are going to destroy his character. Could give a f-ck less about ANYONE'S Parentage at this point. None of them.
The 18-49 still sucks and they only gained 34,000 viewers and is still ABC's lowest rated soap. I am curious to see what the show is like this summer.

My bottom line- FIRE KRISTEN ALDERSON. GET RID OF THIS WEIRD LOOKING TERRIBLE ACTRESS. STOP throwing new characters in the forefront immediately. How stupid can ABC be? Bill Bell understood this concept. No one else does. And could Viki get some kind of a storyline?

And poor GL, it was looking up for that show.

[SteveFrame]

I'm still an old school watcher and proud of it.

If I watch a show I watch the whole hour. I don't use my FF button for anything but the commercials. I hate them and they are my total #1 reason for taping anything - 2nd being when I am just not able to watch.

I am still watching AMC and OLTL at least 4 days a week. Y&R I watch via You Tube since I don't have SoapNet anymore and I usually catch up on it on the weekend, and GH I watch maybe 1 or 2 days a week.

I think time issues do have a lot to do with what people watch these days but I think more of it has to do with people and their faves. I think more people are devoted to certain parts of shows and not the shows anymore. It is just a fact and I don't say that to offend anyone as I am constantly accused of doing. It is just a fact.

Case in point there is a lot of positive remarks about GL these days - more than I have seen in a long time - but at the base of it you will explore more or you read the open comments and it is more often about Otalia or Phillip and not the show itself. On some boards Otalia is starting to get the fanbase treatment that Nuke and others have gotten. And you are starting to read things where if the show is on and Otalia are on for 5 minutes it was a great show but if they aren't on at all then the show was bad.

All of that plays so much into what people watch. I think there are still a lot of devoted fans out there - off the Internet - who do watch everyday or all of the show. They like me do have their faves or parts of the show they enjoy the most but they do watch.

As far as the Internet fans go, the producers and the networks make it too easy for the fans not to watch their shows 4 or 5 days a week. For one they let them know what days certain people are going to be on and for those devoted to one part of the show or aspect of the show know what days to tune in. Also some shows like Y&R peruse You Tube and delete some parts they call copyright infringement but in the process they never delete any of the "couple" or "character" edits of the show. these are where fan bases tape each show and then delete anything that was not centered around their fave and post that on the Internet.

Also we have more ways available not to plan to watch our shows these days. We have always heard the old saying that we make time for what is important to us. If we did not have so many other ways to catch our show these days, the devoted fans would often make some way to watch their shows live. But we don't have too anymore. We know that we can either catch it online, tape it, DVR it, etc. So we don't have to make that plan anymore.

So I think a lot of the stuff is just an outcome of the product of our times. Others are just changes in the way people watch these days.

[pamela1965]

FIRE SARAH BROWN SHE SUCKS

[CarlD2]

I think GL fans (or some of us anyway) want to like the whole show, but there's a big disparity in the quality of some of the material. I think GL is moving closer to being a show with one theme, but they have a long way to go, if they even get the opportunity. I was watching almost every scene until they brought Grady and the kidnapping and Mallet and Marina back.

On most of the soaps, you start to think you can tell who the favorites of the producers/headwriters/network heads are, which might be from the influence of the Internet, what other fans say give you ideas, or the people who run the shows are now less even-handed than they were in the past. I think it's especially heavy-handed on Frons shows, and on Y&R and ATWT. I think when the people who run the shows are blatant in their preferences, the audience is more likely to have the same attitude.

[bandbfan]

B&B deserved its loss with the horrid Rick/Steffy crap.

[Kyle]

WOW. Good for AMC. It was able to keep most of its viewers. Also up from last year!

[MichaelGL]

I will hate to see the ratings GL got this week if this is what they got last week.

[Ruxton Hills]

WOW. Good for AMC. It was able to keep most of its viewers. Also up from last year!

Big wow.....AMC with 2.6 mill viewers and 2.0 HH rating...something to really write about ...NOT!

All ths soaps except for Y&R suck in the ratings. Tbey should all be cancelled. End them of their misery.

ATWT deserves the 1.9 for the week. It was awful last week and this week hasnt been any better!

[amazing7]

I'm sorry what ratings are you looking at. I see that AMC has lost close to 100,000 total viewers than from last year they were in the plus with 45,000. These are not good numbers.

WOW. Good for AMC. It was able to keep most of its viewers. Also up from last year!

[SteveFrame]

I think GL fans (or some of us anyway) want to like the whole show, but there's a big disparity in the quality of some of the material. I think GL is moving closer to being a show with one theme, but they have a long way to go, if they even get the opportunity. I was watching almost every scene until they brought Grady and the kidnapping and Mallet and Marina back.

On most of the soaps, you start to think you can tell who the favorites of the producers/headwriters/network heads are, which might be from the influence of the Internet, what other fans say give you ideas, or the people who run the shows are now less even-handed than they were in the past. I think it's especially heavy-handed on Frons shows, and on Y&R and ATWT. I think when the people who run the shows are blatant in their preferences, the audience is more likely to have the same attitude.

I agree but as I have said before they often listen to the dog that barks the loudest. And sadly the fan bases are the ones who are barking the loudest these days. They write more letters and do the campaigns while many of us sit back and don't say anything.

I think some of us speak out on message boards from time to time, but even with that the messages are not as loud. Most often the letters you read in the magazines are even from - for the majority anyway - the fan bases. How many letters got printed about Kendall, Zendell and how much the fans missed her and Zendell while Kendall was in the coma and missing. the mags didn't print any letters from fans who really didn't miss them at all.

So yes there are some personal biases in play on the part of the some of the backstage folks but often they are giving fans what they think they want.

For years now the powers that be have been in this philosophy of focusing on what they feel are the targets or a limited area of viewership. For instance the 18-49 demo or trying to please what they feel are a big part of their audience. So they focus on those performers and try to put those performers on there and hope that the fans will just be happy with them being there and often they are.

They esp. have to think so when they read things like I said before where I have seen people say that ATWT was great just because Nuke were on even if it was just a few moments.

This is not all of the problem with soaps today but it is a big part of it.

I try and try to understand that level of viewing that you talk about but I just never have been able to wrap my mind around it. I guess I am just not built that way. I am not or never have been a Zendell fan on AMC but I don't FF through their scenes. I watch them and critique. I don't enjoy them as much as some folks do but they are part of my show and my overall impression of the show takes all that into account. I don't enjoy the show any more or any less if they are on or not on.

This post has been edited by SteveFrame: 05 March 2009 - 06:29 PM

[marceline]

I second that. Its gotten to the point where I really don't care about the state of the shows, I just want them to go up so that advertisers can continue to have confidence in the soaps to live on forever.

With all due respect, I don't believe it's in the genre's best interest to reward mediocrity. Soap viewers deserve better. They deserve intelligent, topical, creative entertainment and if these shows can't provide that then they don't deserve to continue.

[CassieFan]

I am so happy GH is falling. Fire Guza!

[CarlD2]

I agree but as I have said before they often listen to the dog that barks the loudest. And sadly the fan bases are the ones who are barking the loudest these days. They write more letters and do the campaigns while many of us sit back and don't say anything.

I know fan bases can hold too much sway (they were part of the death knell for Michelle and Danny on GL and for the supercouples at DAYS), but I'm not sure if they have so much power on today's soaps. People talk about the Zendall fans, but I don't think the current AMC is catering to them. I know so many GH fans who love Liasion and have spent months kicking up a fuss, with GH refusing to bow down to them. People talk about how much they hate Reese, but she's AMC's main heroine for as long as TB stays on the show. A lot of fans hate Michael Easton at OLTL, but he continues to be their leading man, year in and year out.

I think now the decisions are more about what the people in charge want, and the fans are increasingly irrelevant. That's not always a bad thing, for reasons you've given, but when I see GH I wonder if they're even trying to please any fans at all.

I try and try to understand that level of viewing that you talk about but I just never have been able to wrap my mind around it. I guess I am just not built that way. I am not or never have been a Zendell fan on AMC but I don't FF through their scenes.

I'm not proud of FFing scenes, sometimes I think if I didn't, I would enjoy the show more, but I've become so used to the practice that when I go back to watching too many scenes with characters I can't stand, I feel alienated from the show.

I didn't start FFing soaps until around 1994-1996. At the time, I was still watching ATWT on a regular basis, and I knew I would quit watching if I had to keep sitting through scenes with Rosanna and Mike. Then with GL, there were characters I couldn't take anymore, and finally by 1996 I was so sick of Dinah and all the characters who had been ruined for her I would start FFing anything she was in. Eventually if I realize I'm zapping through 90% of a show every day, I do quit watching, but I think there are a lot of soap fans today who don't want to admit defeat, even if their soaps no longer appeal to them.

[marceline]

I know fan bases can hold too much sway (they were part of the death knell for Michelle and Danny on GL and for the supercouples at DAYS), but I'm not sure if they have so much power on today's soaps. People talk about the Zendall fans, but I don't think the current AMC is catering to them. I know so many GH fans who love Liasion and have spent months kicking up a fuss, with GH refusing to bow down to them. People talk about how much they hate Reese, but she's AMC's main heroine for as long as TB stays on the show. A lot of fans hate Michael Easton at OLTL, but he continues to be their leading man, year in and year out.

I think now the decisions are more about what the people in charge want, and the fans are increasingly irrelevant. That's not always a bad thing, for reasons you've given, but when I see GH I wonder if they're even trying to please any fans at all.

You bring up some very good examples. Obviously the Zendall fanbase is loud, but volume isn't everything. It couldn't keep AMC from dropping to the bottom these past few years. I think Pratt is willing to tell them to [!@#$%^&*] off and hope for the best. I also think he has the support of the actors in that. IMO, Frons is the only reason Zendall is still together.

And as for ME, I know that lots of people hate John McBain and so do I. I adore Michael Easton - enough that I go to his fan events - but I don't watch OLTL (and I've told him that to his face.) A lot of ME fans would be perfectly comfortable with a cut in his airtime if it meant that he wasn't playing the same lame stories over and over again: McBain as hero, McBain as savior, McBain as the man in the middle of a tri, blah, blah, blah...

Soaps stopped caring about the fans years ago. The genre is a dumping ground for out of touch wannabe players who would be better served putting on versions of Our Town in a suburb somewhere. Unfortunately, due to a sick twist of fate and an unjust universe, they get to decide what the rest of us see.

I'm not proud of FFing scenes, sometimes I think if I didn't, I would enjoy the show more, but I've become so used to the practice that when I go back to watching too many scenes with characters I can't stand, I feel alienated from the show.

Argh! I hate this! Why are you apologizing for taking charge of your entertainment options? YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER! It their job to please you. If they're giving you something unsatisfactory, that's on THEM. You don't owe any of these shows your viewership. This is a business, not an economic development initiative.

This post has been edited by marceline: 05 March 2009 - 07:51 PM

[Kyle]

I'm sorry what ratings are you looking at. I see that AMC has lost close to 100,000 total viewers than from last year they were in the plus with 45,000. These are not good numbers.

Well its not as bad as CBS soaps.

And why do you hate AMC so much? Looking at your past post all you do is BASH AMC. If you don't like AMC don't bother to watch or say anything about it. Its get annoying......

Also I hoped Y&R would get a bump. OLTL is getting a bit boring but knowing Ron he can bring me back into OLTL.

[SouthOfSoap]

Does anyone know what B&B's record low ratings in HH and total viewers is? Surely these ratings must be close to it?
I wonder how long before it merges with the middle pack because I don't know when last the gap between #2 and the middle pack was this small...

[Jess]

OLTL is the only soap to continue sucking hind tit when other soaps were increasing in ratings. It is up marginally this week, but it never is up much. Even during snow storms, it was a bottom feeder. The truth about OLTL is it is where it will always be. The only viewers who remain are those who are able to tolerate ReRon's campy crap. I wonder how many people who watch OLTL watch out of habit. OLTL will have tiny gains and tiny losses. I suspect, all will remain in the margin of error for a survey of this size. I suspect it will slowly inch downward, but not by much over time.

Young and Restless is doing well. It is about the only soap doing anything interesting.

As far as Michael Easton, it is a shame that a man with his talent is relegated to OLTL. People can complain about his airtime, but I believe he is being used by OLTL. He has a fan base and the show has killed off or buried most folks who have one. My question is why does he stay? I think OLTL provides him a pay check and that enables him to do his creative work. He enjoys acting and can do that on OLTL as well as anywhere. I suspect his passion is for the work he does outside of soapdom.

This post has been edited by Jess: 05 March 2009 - 08:27 PM

[amazing7]

I love Y&R. I think they are the best Soap happening right now. And, yes I HATE AMC right now and I'm NOT watching. I haven't watched this horrible Soap in months. Everything was plot driven when Pratt came on. I was hoping for some character driven storylines and a well balanced Soap, but I didn't see it in the six months I tuned into the show. I'm glad you like what he's writing, good luck, because from what I'm reading on different boards beside this one this show could very well get cancelled within a year and if so Pratt, Frons and Carruthers are getting everything they deserve for putting this type of mess on the air.

Well its not as bad as CBS soaps.

And why do you hate AMC so much? Looking at your past post all you do is BASH AMC. If you don't like AMC don't bother to watch or say anything about it. Its get annoying......

Also I hoped Y&R would get a bump. OLTL is getting a bit boring but knowing Ron he can bring me back into OLTL.